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Hi my name is Markus. Below is the read out, first a brief summary of one problem I am trying to solve.
I am working with my sons on a 2008 VW Rabbit for a homeschooling project. This is my first time posting in a forum. I am a bit at a dead end and not sure what my next move is. Here is the problem, (or rather the symptom). The rear passenger window and door lock do not function. I have taken the entire rear door apart. I have replaced the window motor (J389). With the help of ChatGTP it seems the problem is, the central control module (J393) is not communicating with the window control module (J389) The door window motor has good ground, and is getting power. All six wires coming from the door connector going to the B pillar have continuity. I have checked the orange connector at J393 and there are two wires which showing low voltage (which according to chatgtp is likely the problem.) These two wires are twisted, and both have a separate pin in the connector. One is at around 7 volts, and the other around 4 volts. apparently they should be around 12V.
According to chat gtp pin 9 at the door connector (j389) should be the lin wire and should connect to Pin 7 at the central control module connector. I can't tell where pin #7 is. And I am not sure which of the 2 wires with low voltage is the correct lin wire going back to the door. Also as there are only 6 wires coming from J389 and only six pins receiving those wires with continuity on the inside of Pillar B. So the problem should be between the b pillar and the comfort module J393. Or is the problem further up the chain in the can gateway?
Any thoughts? Here now is the readout and some helpful pictures:
I can't seem to post pictures.
I would really appreciate some help.
respectfully,
Markus Koehler
I am working with my sons on a 2008 VW Rabbit for a homeschooling project. This is my first time posting in a forum. I am a bit at a dead end and not sure what my next move is. Here is the problem, (or rather the symptom). The rear passenger window and door lock do not function. I have taken the entire rear door apart. I have replaced the window motor (J389). With the help of ChatGTP it seems the problem is, the central control module (J393) is not communicating with the window control module (J389) The door window motor has good ground, and is getting power. All six wires coming from the door connector going to the B pillar have continuity. I have checked the orange connector at J393 and there are two wires which showing low voltage (which according to chatgtp is likely the problem.) These two wires are twisted, and both have a separate pin in the connector. One is at around 7 volts, and the other around 4 volts. apparently they should be around 12V.
According to chat gtp pin 9 at the door connector (j389) should be the lin wire and should connect to Pin 7 at the central control module connector. I can't tell where pin #7 is. And I am not sure which of the 2 wires with low voltage is the correct lin wire going back to the door. Also as there are only 6 wires coming from J389 and only six pins receiving those wires with continuity on the inside of Pillar B. So the problem should be between the b pillar and the comfort module J393. Or is the problem further up the chain in the can gateway?
Any thoughts? Here now is the readout and some helpful pictures:
Code:
Monday,29,September,2025,11:00:14:54093
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 25.3.2.0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4671.5
Data version: 20250822 DS365.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WVWCA71KX8W256450 License Plate:
Mileage: 236120km-146718mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72
VIN: WVWCA71KX8W256450 Mileage: 236120km-146718miles
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
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Address 01: Engine (CBT) Labels: 06A-906-032-BGP.lbl
Part No SW: 07K 906 032 BK HW: 07K 906 032 Q
Component: 2,5l R5/4V G 1568
Revision: 1NH01--- Serial number: VWX7Z0H13NC7YZ
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 73B403D277B81C42831-8026
VINID: 9E69D344705BA089C214610500850C59DA
4 Faults Found:
001672 - ECM Power Relay Load Circuit
P0688 - 002 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 234224 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 09:55:24
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 691 /min
Load: 33.7 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 54.0 C
Temperature: -32.0 C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 0.000 V
001669 - ECM Power Relay Control Circuit
P0685 - 004 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 234224 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 09:55:24
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 313 /min
Load: 46.3 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 54.0 C
Temperature: -32.0 C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 0.127 V
008825 - Leak in Air Intake System
P2279 - 008 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00111000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 234229 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:46:44
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 843 /min
Load: 16.1 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 90.0 C
Temperature: -26.0 C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.589 V
001152 - Coolant Fan Control Circuit 1
P0480 - 004 - Electrical Malfunction - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 236115 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:00:12
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 190 /min
Load: 89.4 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 10.0 C
Temperature: -40.0 C
Absolute Pres.: 990.0 mbar
Voltage: 10.414 V
Readiness: 0110 1101
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.clb
Part No: 1K0 907 379 P
Component: ASR FRONT MK70 0105
Coding: 0017025
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3FDC9FE20B708822B79-806A
4 Faults Found:
01276 - ABS Hydraulic Pump (V64)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00290 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Left (G46)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00290 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Left (G46)
003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 HN HW: 1K0 820 047 HN
Component: Climatic PQ35 142 1111
Revision: 00142031 Serial number: 00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 77AC37C263C07062BF9-8022
1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
013 - Check DTC Memory
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AH HW: 3C0 937 049 AH
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2202
Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000007956180
Coding: 108D8F214004150047140000001400000008730B5C000100000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 6FBC0FA21B9038A2679-803A
Subsystem 1 - Component: Fehler Lin-Slave 01
6 Faults Found:
00906 - Horn (H1)
009 - Open or Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 250
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63
Freeze Frame:
OFF
Voltage: 12.20 V
OFF
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF
02071 - Local Databus
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 250
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63
Freeze Frame:
OFF
Voltage: 12.20 V
OFF
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 250
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63
Freeze Frame:
OFF
Voltage: 12.20 V
OFF
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 250
Mileage: 236123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63
Freeze Frame:
OFF
Voltage: 12.15 V
OFF
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF
01759 - Relay for Horn
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01111100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 250
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63
Freeze Frame:
OFF
Voltage: 12.20 V
OFF
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF
00153 - Windshield Wiper Motor; Driver Side (V216)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 250
Mileage: 0 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63
Freeze Frame:
OFF
Voltage: 12.20 V
OFF
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
Component: 6L AIRBAG VW8R 034 8000
Revision: 05034000 Serial number: 003B6D0AHF6
Coding: 0013900
Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
VCID: 6C8618AE2A86C3BA42B-8038
Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME32521161Z
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME3672455EI
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME51492913B
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME51443D3BM
Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63727SME126B5F7EL
Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63827SME12414352Q
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BN HW: 1K0 953 549 BN
Component: J0527 051 0100
Coding: 0000022
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 7F5CDFE24BF04822F79-802A
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 920 854 T HW: 1K0 920 854 T
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1212
Revision: V0002000 Serial number: VWX7Z0H13NC7YZ
Coding: 0007303
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 3C26E8EE1A66933A92B-8068
2 Faults Found:
00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 12
Reset counter: 250
Mileage: 236123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:05:26
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 10
Reset counter: 250
Mileage: 236123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:20:09
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H15 0180
Revision: H15 Serial number: 1400K08207031A
Coding: E9807F060002020002
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 303ECCDEC62E675A3E3-8064
4 Faults Found:
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 250
Mileage: 236123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:05:28
01305 - Databus for Infotainment
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 250
Mileage: 236123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:05:29
01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 250
Mileage: 236123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:05:32
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 250
Mileage: 236123 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 00:20:10
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 920 854 T HW: 1K0 920 854 T
Component: IMMO VDD 1212
Revision: V0002000 Serial number: VWX7Z0H13NC7YZ
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 3C26E8EE1A66933A92B-8068
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M HW: 1K0 959 701 M
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1219
Coding: 0001205
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 382EF4FE2E5EBF1A763-806C
2 Faults Found:
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
004 - No Signal/Communication
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.069 H08 1901
Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
VCID: 3530FDCA394C42726D5-8060
1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
000 - -
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Address 46: Central Conv.
Cannot be reached
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M HW: 1K0 959 702 M
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1203
Coding: 0001204
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3928F1FA1554A61289D-806C
1 Fault Found:
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication
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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 K HW: 1K0 959 703 K
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1302
Coding: 0001168
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 1012552
VCID: 382EF4FE2E5EBF1A763-806C
No fault code found.
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Address 72: Door, Rear Right
Cannot be reached
End----------(Elapsed Time: 00:56, VBatt start/end: 14.3V/14.3V)-----------
------------------------------25 Faults Found------------------------------
I can't seem to post pictures.
I would really appreciate some help.
respectfully,
Markus Koehler
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