I’m in the midst of a number of retrofits for my NAR 2008 R32, and I’ve got a large amount of wiring and other prerequisites ahead of me, so I want to get my ducks in a row for efficiency’s sake. Some projects are more fleshed out, and others are pushing the fine line of my (growing) understanding.
One of these projects is to install an MIB2 Composition Media system, I’ve already got parts and a plan sorted for wiring and CP removal. When I get into it, I also want to install an interface knob/control unit from a D4 Audi A8 or similar.
From what I understand, there were no knob/dial controllers offered with the MIB2 systems in MQB vehicles. Please let me know if that’s incorrect. I’m wondering if anyone here has insight about the feasibility of using the Audi controller in a VW. Aside from wiring and coding, what hurdles stand in the way of making it possible? I assume update to a late model BCM and gateway, plus coding and admaps? I also assume this button assembly won't have component protection from 2012ish vehicle. Can the existing (mk5) Infotainment CAN bus be used for this? If not, what's the alternative route? Assume no amount of work is too much.
Looking for some creative spitballing, but don’t worry about the physical fitment of components, I’ll handle that. My goal is to have dial controls in addition to the touchscreen, for accessibility reasons. I’d appreciate any insight to help me make this happen.
Extra credit: I've also installed S-sport seats from a 2018 RS5. If I'm able to successfully get 5F to communicate with this MMI controller, I also wonder if it will someday be possible to get the pneumatic bolsters and massage function to work via MIB2.
I don't have a good recent autoscan, but this should give you an idea what I'm working with:
One of these projects is to install an MIB2 Composition Media system, I’ve already got parts and a plan sorted for wiring and CP removal. When I get into it, I also want to install an interface knob/control unit from a D4 Audi A8 or similar.
From what I understand, there were no knob/dial controllers offered with the MIB2 systems in MQB vehicles. Please let me know if that’s incorrect. I’m wondering if anyone here has insight about the feasibility of using the Audi controller in a VW. Aside from wiring and coding, what hurdles stand in the way of making it possible? I assume update to a late model BCM and gateway, plus coding and admaps? I also assume this button assembly won't have component protection from 2012ish vehicle. Can the existing (mk5) Infotainment CAN bus be used for this? If not, what's the alternative route? Assume no amount of work is too much.
Looking for some creative spitballing, but don’t worry about the physical fitment of components, I’ll handle that. My goal is to have dial controls in addition to the touchscreen, for accessibility reasons. I’d appreciate any insight to help me make this happen.
Extra credit: I've also installed S-sport seats from a 2018 RS5. If I'm able to successfully get 5F to communicate with this MMI controller, I also wonder if it will someday be possible to get the pneumatic bolsters and massage function to work via MIB2.
I don't have a good recent autoscan, but this should give you an idea what I'm working with:
Code:
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VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 25.3.0.3 (x64)
Data version: 20250301 DS365.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WVWKC71K88W053692 License Plate: 8HCJ443
Mileage: 313210km-194619mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 47 52 55 56 65
77
VIN: WVWKC71K88W053692 Mileage: 313210km-194619miles
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1010
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 022-906-032-BDB.lbl
Part No SW: 022 906 032 KR HW: 022 906 032 GP
Component: R32-DQ-LEV2 G 1098
Revision: 1QH02--- Serial number: VWX7Z0G53NQ8SL
Coding: 0000178
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 65CBC4C6AC2177B353-8030
VINID: 9E69DB4C705B2089C014318908E53025B7
5 Faults Found:
000768 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
P0300 - 008 - - Intermittent - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 10101000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 312978 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 08:49:00
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 656 /min
Load: 33.3 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 53.0∞C
Temperature: 32.0∞C
Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.462 V
000773 - Cylinder 5
P0305 - 008 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 10101000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 312978 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 08:49:42
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 643 /min
Load: 33.7 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 54.0∞C
Temperature: 32.0∞C
Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
Voltage: 12.954 V
000771 - Cylinder 3
P0303 - 008 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 10101000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 312978 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 08:49:42
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 643 /min
Load: 33.7 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 54.0∞C
Temperature: 32.0∞C
Absolute Pres.: 980.0 mbar
Voltage: 12.954 V
008344 - Post-Catalyst Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor Correction; Bank 2
P2098 - 002 - Too Lean - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 312988 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 09:09:45
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 1952 /min
Load: 31.8 %
Speed: 76.0 km/h
Temperature: 85.0∞C
Temperature: 13.0∞C
Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.716 V
001072 - Catalyst System; Bank 2
P0430 - 002 - Efficiency Below Threshold
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 313191 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 20:33:36
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 1468 /min
Load: 41.9 %
Speed: 57.0 km/h
Temperature: 87.0∞C
Temperature: 17.0∞C
Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.843 V
Readiness: 0000 1000
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
Part No SW: 02E 300 047 F HW: 02E 927 770 AE
Component: GSG DSG 070 1171
Revision: 04507000 Serial number: 00000606200837
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
VCID: 1B3FA23EDAE5714335-804E
No fault code found.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-A.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AB HW: 1K0 907 379 AB
Component: ESP 4MOTION MK60 0102
Revision: 00H13001
Coding: 0021128
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 72E1AF9A6DEF900BC6-8026
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 044 BS HW: 1K0 907 044 BS
Component: ClimatronicPQ35 120 1111
Revision: 00120021 Serial number: 00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 79F398B63099E35387-802C
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2202
Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 01000007329496
Coding: EF8F8F2700041500470000000F0000800018190100000100000000000000
Shop #: WSC 25807 128 54294
VCID: 71E3A09668E9AB133F-8024
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 040707 021 0501
Coding: 00038805
Shop #: WSC 25807
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AF Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
Component: RLS 060707 046 0204
Coding: 00207646
Shop #: WSC 25807
1 Fault Found:
01502 - Bulb for Rear Fog; Left (L46)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 252
Mileage: 312959 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63
Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 11.25 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF
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Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 H HW: 8E0 035 593 H
Component: SDAR SIRIUS
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2E597BEAB957F4EB62-807A
2 Faults Found:
02788 - Internal Communications Error
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 11
Reset counter: 252
Mileage: 313214 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 13:14:41
Freeze Frame:
Bin. Bits: 00000000
Bin. Bits: 00000001
01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 45
Reset counter: 37
Mileage: 313214 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 13:14:09
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
Component: 6T AIRBAG VW8R 034 8000
Revision: 05034000 Serial number: 003B6D091ME-
Coding: 0013908
Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
VCID: 6CDDB1E24FCB46FB0C-8038
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 G
Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0007
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME19483D0CL
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME1B6C584EX
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 635 SME
Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6362QSME106F1D0DR
Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME0D0D53745
Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME0D1A4F3AH
2 Faults Found:
01638 - Crash-Sensor for Side Airbag; Rear Drivers Side (G256)
008 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
01638 - Crash-Sensor for Side Airbag; Rear Drivers Side (G256)
014 - Defective - MIL ON
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AQ HW: 1K0 953 549 AQ
Component: J0527 036 0070
Coding: 0012122
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 0103F0565849BB93CF-8054
Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 002 0010
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 1K6 920 974 D HW: 1K6 920 974 D
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1216
Revision: V0002000 Serial number: VWX7Z0G53NQ8SL
Coding: 0007403
Shop #: WSC 01287 785 00200
VCID: 356B54865C01C73323-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 K HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H04 0021
Revision: H04 02 Serial number: 280607F2001000
Coding: FF8F03E207000000
Shop #: WSC 24168 444 84341
VCID: 2F6766EEBE5DFDE369-807A
1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 254
Reset counter: 36
Mileage: 304064 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 19:31:37
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Address 22: AWD Labels: 1K0-907-554.lbl
Part No: 1K0 907 554 L
Component: Haldex 4Motion 0116
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 3669538A4107CC2B2A-8062
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 1K6 920 974 D HW: 1K6 920 974 D
Component: IMMO VDD 1216
Revision: V0002000 Serial number: VWX7Z0G53NQ8SL
Shop #: WSC 24168 444 84341
VCID: 356B54865C01C73323-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M HW: 1K0 959 701 M
Component: Tuer-SG 006 120A
Coding: 0001077
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 38755DB24B133A5B38-806C
1 Fault Found:
00109 - Left Mirror Turn Signal Lamp (L131)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.141 H08 1901
Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
VCID: 356B54865C01C73323-8060
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
Component: KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0221
Revision: 00052000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 1A8006885103083F7D020D8DF0088A04389C00
Shop #: WSC 24168 444 13252
VCID: 040DF942475BAEBBE4-8050
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H05 1501
Subsystem 2 - Component: NGS n.mounted
Subsystem 3 - Component: IRUE n.mounted
2 Faults Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 249
Mileage: 304980 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 18:24:10
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101110
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 249
Mileage: 304980 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 18:24:56
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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 3C0-035-456.clb
Part No: 1K6 035 456 A
Component: 08K Audioverst. 0005
Revision: 00003000 Serial number: 00000000143942
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2A5177FA85BF98CBBE-807E
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M HW: 1K0 959 702 M
Component: Tuer-SG 006 120A
Coding: 0001076
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 397358B670192353C7-806C
1 Fault Found:
00110 - Right Mirror Turn Signal Lamp (L132)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
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Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
Part No: 1T0 907 357
Component: Dynamische LWR 0003
Coding: 0000004
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 74EDA98217FB9E3BD4-8020
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached
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Address 65: Tire Pressure Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
Component: RDK 0450
Revision: 00052000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0100101
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
VCID: 040DF942475BAEBBE4-8050
No fault code found.
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Address 77: Telephone (J738) Labels:. 1K8-035-730.clb
Part No SW: 1K8 051 730 A HW: 1K8 051 730 A
Component: Telefon H01 5200
Revision: 00001000 Serial number: 20389520000873
Coding: 402120
Shop #: WSC 01120 444 84341
VCID: 254B84C62CA1B7B393-8070
3 Faults Found:
03427 - Right Audio Channel
011 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 118
Mileage: 304064 km
Time Indication: 0
01304 - Radio
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 33
Time Indication: 0
00992 - Consumption Cut-Off Active
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 26
Mileage: 312618 km
Time Indication: 0
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:14)--------------------------
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