Skoda Fabia MY16 Power Steering fault

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I am with the following problem, my vcds does not show emergent balloon with security code to solve my problem.

[Access to security-16]
Enter the code that appears in the VCDS popup
Check your PMs.

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No work buddy
 
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No work buddy
What part doesn't work? Security Access not accepted? Or something else beyond that point?

-Uwe-

PS: You do have a rather different Steering Module.
"EV_SteerAssisNSKGen2" rather than "EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW".
Looks like a different supplier...
 
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My VCDS does not generate popup code and the code that you stepped into does not work, tried several and I can not go one step further
 
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PS: You do have a rather different Steering Module.
"EV_SteerAssisNSKGen2" rather than "EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW".
Looks like a different supplier...

I was looking at the wrong scan in the other thread. We do not have a procedure for:
VIN: 9BWAG4121FT558704 License Plate: OLM553
Mileage: 23690km-14720mi Repair Order: 1122

Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels: 1Sx-909-144-44.clb
Part No SW: 1S1 909 144 P HW: 1S1 909 144 P
Component: EPS_ECU H51 1702
Coding: 0001000001010000
Shop #: WSC 03310 453 00217
ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSK 014008
ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSK_VW12.rod
VCID: 4084F8FDDBDE7742EE-8014

1 Fault Found:
0024 - Crash Shut-Down Activated
P1609 00 [137] - -
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 35
Mileage: 23694 km
Date: 2017.01.19
Time: 00:32:30

Voltage terminal 15: 13.302 V
Voltage terminal 30: 13.903 V
Engine speed: 0.00 /min
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Status: No enabling

.. but the complete Auto-Scan might shed light on the situation. Please post the Auto-Scan from 9BWAG4121FT558704.
 
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Hello, I'm annoying you again if you can help me with security code for power steering module,
From now thank you friends
 
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First I do like to thank You for this solution it is working and my power steering works well after restet,
But after reset I Have a problem with ESP and some steering angle sensor foults. I have trying to drive slow. turn the whells left an right as described but it do not help . If You could help. Here is the auto scan


Code:
Thursday,23,March,2017,18:55:09:10824
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4336.4
Data version: 20170220 DS267.3
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VIN: TMBEA6NJ5GZ031323   License Plate: 



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Chassis Type: NJ (6C0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 44 5F

VIN: TMBEA6NJ5GZ031323   Mileage: 44141km-27427miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CHYA)       Labels: 04C-906-020-CHY.clb
   Part No SW: 04C 906 057     HW: 04C 907 309 J
   Component: R3 1.0l MPI   H24 8993  
   Revision: 31H24000    
   Coding: 01110052020405080000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00000
   VCID: 629EA06454CD15975BD-8036

No ASAM data for: "Unknown" (SK26) 
2 Faults Found:
7150 - ROD - Unknown Error Code 
          - 00 [047]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 44112 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 01:52:39

4629 - ROD - Unknown Error Code 
          - 00 [032]
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 907 379 K    HW: 6R0 907 379 BA
   Component: ESP9.0i       H03 0004  
   Serial number: 08508679150618
   Coding: 41F5247D492633C10917106B0054822492CC9008000DCA098F00
   Shop #: WSC 13765 031 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26 100020
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26.rod
   VCID: 37282130AFCF203FDC3-8062

3 Faults Found:
0625 - Display for Tire Pressure Monitoring 
          C1146 02 [137] - Signal Failure
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 9
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 44112 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 00:20:18

1141 - Implausible Data Received from Steering Angle Sensor Module (G85) 
          U0428 00 [137] - -
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 79
                    Mileage: 44112 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 00:20:18

1149 - Implausible Data Received from Steering Angle Sensor Module (G85) 
          U0428 00 [137] - -
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 79
                    Mileage: 44112 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 00:20:18


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: 6C0-820-045.clb
   Part No SW: 6V0 820 045 A    HW: 6V0 820 045 A
   Component: AC Manuell    H01 0108  
   Serial number:  1506121B-0556
   Coding: 100000001000100000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26 002001
   ROD: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26_VW26.rod
   VCID: 303A1A2C4AA1F7079D9-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 6C0 937 087 C    HW: 6C0 937 087 
   Component: BCM PQ26 Me4R H08 0084  
   Serial number: 001368003882
   Coding: 0C0008404205497B43804000400703080000D80050013500000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMA0 005005
   ROD: EV_BCMA0_005_SK25.rod
   VCID: 2E0604545095E1F78F5-807A

3 Faults Found:
8202 - Bulb for Left DRL 
          B121D 15 [008] - Open or Short to Plus
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 119
                    Mileage: 44112 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 01:52:57

8458 - Bulb for Right DRL 
          B121E 15 [008] - Open or Short to Plus
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 119
                    Mileage: 44112 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 01:52:57

558100 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [008] - Received Error Message
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 119
                    Mileage: 44112 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 01:52:48


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels: 6C0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 959 655 F    HW: 6C0 959 655 F
   Component: VW20Airbag733 001 0360  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003RJ003NK4D
   Coding: 88CCC000000000005C5400CF000800000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X.rod
   VCID: 36362C34A8C5D937C75-8062

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 820 906 15
   Component: SideSensor_Df  151 0800 
   Serial number: 3575H00B51AC0682F20N
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 820 906 15
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  151 0800 
   Serial number: 3585H00B31AC0683612F
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 152 506 15
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  1CA 0148 
   Serial number: 3517A00B91AC53B3919O
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 152 506 15
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  1CA 0148 
   Serial number: 3527A00BB1AC53B4419N
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb
   Part No SW: 6V0 920 730 A    HW: 6V0 920 730 A
   Component: KOMBI         105 1420  
   Coding: 0724010021000008010808001000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009046
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_SK37.rod
   VCID: 323E102444ADC517EBD-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 6C0-909-901-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 6C0 909 901     HW: 6C0 937 087 
   Component: GW MQB A0     H08 0084  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 001368003882
   Coding: 030000042F0A640000000000000000010001050000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewA0Lear 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewA0Lear_VW26.rod
   VCID: 6594BB7845E362AFBEF-8030

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 915 181 A    HW: 6C0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H08 0223 
   Serial number: 22163633342821249920

1 Fault Found:
15360512 - Component Protection 
          U1101 00 [008] - Active
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 119
                    Mileage: 44112 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 01:52:49

                    Supply voltage: Terminal 30: 11.7 V
                    Terminal 15: On


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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels: 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6C1 909 144 AG    HW: 6C1 909 144 D
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  312 3232  
   Serial number: CF6R0981
   Coding: 000300
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 016026
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_SE26.rod
   VCID: 6D84C3589D135AEFF6F-8038

3 Faults Found:
1094656 - Steering angle sensor 
          B1168 54 [137] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 79
                    Mileage: 44112 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 00:14:47

1073664 - Steering End Stops Not Learned 
          C10AC F0 [137] - Unknown Error Elaboration
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 79
                    Mileage: 44112 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 00:14:47

1073920 - Steering End Stops Not Learned 
          C10AC F0 [137] - Unknown Error Elaboration
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 79
                    Mileage: 44112 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 00:14:47


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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: 3V0-035-MIB-ENT2.clb
   Part No SW: 6V0 035 867 C    HW: 6V0 035 867 C
   Component: MU-E--ER      852 6490  
   Serial number: 16061500012730
   Coding: 036200003C0000005011000101000A00000000C40000010000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001025
   ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_SK26.rod
   VCID: 3C223E1C96E90367311-8068

1 Fault Found:
1539 - Function Restricted due to Insufficient Voltage 
          U1400 00 [008] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 114
                    Mileage: 43610 km
                    Date: 2017.01.03
                    Time: 08:35:45

                    Voltage terminal 30: 5.7 V


End----------(Elapsed Time: 00:46, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/11.9V)-----------

And here are the codes

Code:
Address 44: Steering Assist       Labels: 6RX-909-144-V2.clb
Control Module Part Number: 6C1 909 144 AG    HW: 6C1 909 144 D
  Component and/or Version: EPS_TRW_ALow  312 3232
           Software Coding: 000300
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00000 000 00000
              ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 016026 (VW26)
                       ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_SE26.rod
                      VCID: 6D84C3589D135AEFF6F-8038
3 Faults Found:

1094656 - Steering angle sensor 
          B1168 54 [137] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 44141 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 01:53:38

1073664 - Steering End Stops Not Learned 
          C10AC F0 [137] - Unknown Error Elaboration
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 44141 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 01:53:38

1073920 - Steering End Stops Not Learned 
          C10AC F0 [137] - Unknown Error Elaboration
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 44141 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 01:53:38


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                Address 03: ABS Brakes       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
Control Module Part Number: 6C0 907 379 K    HW: 6R0 907 379 BA
  Component and/or Version: ESP9.0i       H03 0004
           Software Coding: 41F5247D492633C10917106B0054822492CC9008000DCA098F00
            Work Shop Code: WSC 13765 031 00000
              ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26 100020 (VW26)
                       ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26.rod
                      VCID: 37282130AFCF203FDC3-8062
3 Faults Found:

0625 - Display for Tire Pressure Monitoring 
          C1146 02 [137] - Signal Failure
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 44141 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 01:54:28

1141 - Implausible Data Received from Steering Angle Sensor Module (G85) 
          U0428 00 [137] - -
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 44141 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 01:54:28

1149 - Implausible Data Received from Steering Angle Sensor Module (G85) 
          U0428 00 [137] - -
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 44141 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 01:54:28


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                Address 03: ABS Brakes       Labels: 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
Control Module Part Number: 6C0 907 379 K    HW: 6R0 907 379 BA
  Component and/or Version: ESP9.0i       H03 0004
           Software Coding: 41F5247D492633C10917106B0054822492CC9008000DCA098F00
            Work Shop Code: WSC 13765 031 00000
              ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26 100020 (VW26)
                       ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26.rod
                      VCID: 37282130AFCF203FDC3-8062
3 Faults Found:

0625 - Display for Tire Pressure Monitoring 
          C1146 02 [137] - Signal Failure
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 44141 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 01:54:28

1141 - Implausible Data Received from Steering Angle Sensor Module (G85) 
          U0428 00 [137] - -
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 44141 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 01:54:28

1149 - Implausible Data Received from Steering Angle Sensor Module (G85) 
          U0428 00 [137] - -
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 80
                    Mileage: 44141 km
                    Date: 2017.03.04
                    Time: 01:54:28
 
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Have you tried figure eights in a parking lot and also driving backward a bit lock to lock of the steering wheel?
 
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No. can try tomorrow,
 
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One update. On my vcds [meas blocks=08] is disabled
 
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Do You have any solution hou to calibrate tthis sensor?
No, if I knew where to find a procedure for it in this car with ESP9.0i and EPS_TRW_ALow, I would have posted a link. ;)

-Uwe-
 
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Fabia3,

You mentioned this car was crashed in a PM so let us know if the wheels/steering rack took a direct hit. Any details you can provide here would be helpful.

In the meanwhile I would check advanced measuring values for the:

Steering angle sensor
Check G85 live data with the steering perfectly straight, when holding to full right and again when holding to full left. You can add that to a log and paste it here if needed. If the mechanical alignment (lock-to-lock) is out more than 10 degrees -or- straight isn't close enough to 0.0 that may be the problem.​
Wheel speed data
Jack's TPMS concerns are valid and worth looking into. Faulty WSS data will prevent TPMS from learning and in older cars (Mk5-6) we know incorrect WSS data prevents G85 learning and end-stop calibrations from being possible. I would watch live wheel speeds while driving perfectly straight to make sure there isn't a discrepancy at all.​
 
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Car was crashed, but it was not a big crash. Airbags blow up and power steering locks but I could drive home almost 150 Km with no problem. Only hood , front bumper, bumper beam ware replaced.

Could You let me know how to check live data with UDS and what WSS means. I like to repair cars and restore old cars but it is my hobby. my english is not so good :-)

Update"

Red - do not change
Green - change if steering whel moove

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I have also check the abs sensor live data and all wheels are the same value if i drive straight.

Update:
Maybe someone could post codig for ABS.ESP module from fabia iii 1.0 engine MY16
 
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1 Fault Found:
6351360 - Crash Shut-Down Activated
P1609 00 [137] - -
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 23
Mileage: 797 km
Date: 2015.09.12
Time: 01:48:31


Did you get this to clear Fabia3?

If not can you please recode the controller to match the WSC/Importer# and tester # of the 0x01 ( engine ) Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063 In 0x15 ( airbag ) & 0x44 ( steering )

Make them all match please..........
 
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Did you get this to clear Fabia3?

If not can you please recode the controller to match the WSC/Importer# and tester # of the 0x01 ( engine ) Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00063 In 0x15 ( airbag ) & 0x44 ( steering )

Make them all match please..........

Yes I had crash shut down activated and i had to reset the 44 module as described in the solution. All airbags are replaced and all bad codes are deleted from the airbag module. Car drives well now. ABS and Power steerig works but I have christmas tree over the dashboard.
Tire presure , power steering and ESP lights on.

EDITED: About the WSC. I could change it but could You describe how to do this job :

I have tested all whells spead and the steering sensor. RAW value of sterring sensor has change if i moove the steering whell so I thing it is ok - Am I wrong? I have also tested Yours sugestion about the slow driving - nothing works :(

Maybe somethig goes wrong over the reset and I need to reflash this module ?

I have also another id. Maybe over the rest something has change in the ESP module . I have trying to read it (long code) with LCode but the translation file do not support it. there is a file 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb but I do not know how to use it. I would like to look in to the coding and see what is in there.

Thank You all for support. Will test all suggestion :)
 
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