2015 Audi T TDi cut out while driving, and will now crank but not start.

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MitchC

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Good evening,
I have an issue with my daughter's Audi TT TDI in which it cut out while driving and would crank but not start. here is the scan:

Code:
Wednesday,09,April,2025,20:45:58:11279


01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: OK 0000
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CUNA)       Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04L 906 021 ED    HW: 04L 907 309 A
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H22 8240
   Revision: 81H22---    CVN: BF1E8D5D
   Coding: 02190012030501083000
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021ED 002010
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021ED_002.rod
   VCID: 6BD2159E82A9FFCE06-803E
   VINID: 92296AAAA5A601604000824920FF439CAA

3 Faults Found:
5211 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure
          P0087 00 [01100101] - Too Low
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 249648 km
                    Date: 2025.04.08
                    Time: 17:25:04

                    Engine RPM: 2296.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 76.9 %
                    Vehicle speed: 20 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 85 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 83 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.720 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
                    Fuel temperature sensor 1: B1: raw value: 57.6 °C
                    Mean injection quantity: 38.67 mg/stroke
                    Rail pressure regulation: status-Bits 0-7: 5
                    Fuel high pressure sensor: actual value: 278600 hPa
                    Fuel high pressure sensor: nominal value: 1674400 hPa
                    Pressure control valve adaptation factor: 1.1335
                    Fuel level: 8.00 l

5212 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure
          P0087 00 [01100101] - Too Low
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 249648 km
                    Date: 2025.04.08
                    Time: 17:25:08

                    Engine RPM: 2297.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 100.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 20 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 85 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 85 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.720 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
                    Fuel temperature sensor 1: B1: raw value: 57.9 °C
                    Mean injection quantity: 20.60 mg/stroke
                    Rail pressure regulation: status-Bits 0-7: 5
                    Fuel high pressure sensor: actual value: 249100 hPa
                    Fuel high pressure sensor: nominal value: 1317500 hPa
                    Pressure control valve adaptation factor: 1.1335
                    Fuel level: 8.00 l

20557 - Heater support pump
          P16C7 00 [00100000] - locked
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8S0 907 379 B    HW: 8S0 907 379 B
   Component: ESC           H31 0504
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 63474000000510
   Coding: 13AA108D1A9915B1009A006DC299830624C80858A8000043C16024
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 052008
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_052.rod
   VCID: 40889232DBAFCC9683-8014

1 Fault Found:
16401 - Tire Pressure Warning
          C102D 00 [00001000] - -
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 19
                    Mileage: 247712 km
                    Date: 2025.03.09
                    Time: 11:08:38


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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-435.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 959 435     HW: 3Q0 959 435
   Component: VWKESSYMQB    023 0522
   Revision: 00023000    Serial number: 0355054959 Dataset Number: 8S0909577D  0001
   Coding: 000F0F1620
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB 004027
   ROD: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB.rod
   VCID: 77FA39EECEE14B2EF2-8022

   Rear lid opener control module:

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (E87)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 8S0 820 043     HW: 8S0 820 043
   Component: AC Automat    H05 0030
   Revision: 20009000    Serial number: 14110000009000
   Coding: 411040002011101100
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiVAPrehAU33x 003011
   ROD: EV_AirCondiVAPrehAU33x.rod
   VCID: 6CD0168287A7F8F60F-8038

   Humidity sensor: exterior:

   Rear A/C Control Head 1:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8S0 820 373 A    HW: 8S0 820 373 A
   Component: E774 BuA_1  H06 0020
   Serial number: 00000000000000006168

   Rear A/C Control Head 2:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8S0 820 359 A    HW: 8S0 820 359 A
   Component: E775 BuA_2  H06 0020
   Serial number: 00000000000000006194

   Rear A/C Control Head 3:
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8S0 820 359     HW: 8S0 820 359
   Component: E776 BuA_3  H06 0020
   Serial number: 00000000000000006194

   Rear A/C Control Head 4:
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 8S0 820 359 B    HW: 8S0 820 359 B
   Component: E777 BuA_4  H06 0020
   Serial number: 00000000000000006194

   Rear A/C Control Head 5:
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 8S0 820 373 B    HW: 8S0 820 373 B
   Component: E778 BuA_5  H06 0020
   Serial number: 00000000000000006223

1 Fault Found:
332038 - Position Sensor for Side Defrost Flap; Left
          B1661 15 [00001000] - Open or Short to Plus
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 24
                    Mileage: 249305 km
                    Date: 2025.04.01
                    Time: 13:21:21

                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.6 V
                    Outside temperature: 16.0 °C
                    Defrost flap motor for left side window: actual value: 0.00 %
                    Defrost flap motor for left side window: actual value: 949
                    Defrost flap motor for left side window: spec. value: 900


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 BR    HW: 5Q0 937 084 AJ
   Component: BCM MQBAB H   H18 0136
   Serial number: 01011435100893 Dataset Number: 8S0909514B  0026
   Coding: 07054D46C20106FD03044004B31807A80080000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 013000
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_013.rod
   VCID: 091E4F16A8154DDE94-805C

   Wiper motor control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8S2 955 119 A    HW: 8S2 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: 43x RL 140703  032 0371
   Serial number: 00000001407010600503
   Coding: 1BC7F7

   Rain/Light Recognition Sensor:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 B    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
   Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0002
   Serial number: 23572266         
   Coding: 00005D

   Light switch:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8V0 941 531 AA    HW: 8V0 941 531 AA
   Component: E1 - LDS MQB  H05 0032
   Serial number: 23 10 2014  00000081

   Anti-theft alarm system sensor:
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 171     HW: 5Q0 951 171
   Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0315
   Serial number: 000000000ZY143210PE8

   Alarm horn:
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605
   Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311
   Serial number: 00000000000031448399

3 Faults Found:
197644 - Control Circuit for Fuel Tank Flap
          B1263 01 [00001001] - Electrical Failure
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 68
                    Reset counter: 253
                    Mileage: 221783 km
                    Date: 2023.11.19
                    Time: 13:10:52

                    Terminal 15 status: OFF
                    Terminal 50 status: OFF
                    CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): OFF
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): OFF
                    OFF: Not operated
                    Position lamps: Not operated
                    Automatic high beam assist: operated
                    Low beam: Not operated
                    Parking light left: Not operated
                    Parking light right: Not operated
                    last_wakeup: no cause for fault protection
                    Voltage: 12.6 V
                    Outside temperature: 11.0 °C

204290 - Remote key 1
          B1479 18 [00001001] - Current Too Low
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 88
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

                    Terminal 15 status: OFF
                    Terminal 50 status: OFF
                    CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): OFF
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): OFF
                    OFF: Not operated
                    Position lamps: Not operated
                    Automatic high beam assist: operated
                    Low beam: Not operated
                    Parking light left: Not operated
                    Parking light right: Not operated
                    last_wakeup: no cause for fault protection
                    Voltage: 12.2 V
                    Outside temperature: 7.0 °C

786954 - Heater for Spray Nozzles
          B1224 15 [00001000] - Open or Short to Plus
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 25
                    Mileage: 248911 km
                    Date: 2025.03.30
                    Time: 09:45:57

                    Terminal 15 status: On
                    Terminal 50 status: OFF
                    CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): OFF
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): OFF
                    OFF: Not operated
                    Position lamps: Not operated
                    Automatic high beam assist: operated
                    Low beam: Not operated
                    Parking light left: Not operated
                    Parking light right: Not operated
                    last_wakeup: no cause for fault protection
                    Voltage: 14.4 V
                    Outside temperature: 9.5 °C


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-283.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 919 283 E    HW: 5Q0 919 283
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H10 0051
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 39291435201968 Dataset Number: 8S0909526A  0012
   Coding: 0000050001
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000 002022
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14AU3700000_002_AU37.rod
   VCID: 3B72E5DEB249AF4ED6-806E

1 Fault Found:
13893632 - Function Restricted due to Insufficient Voltage
          U1400 00 [00001000] - -
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 38
                    Mileage: 249655 km
                    Date: 2025.04.09
                    Time: 19:32:08


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 P    HW: 5Q0 959 655 P
   Component: AirbagVW20    009 0870
   Serial number: 003M7R007ZY6 Dataset Number: 8S0909602A  0026
   Coding: 88CCF0C00C8000005C5000CFC0C800000065
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002138
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
   VCID: 4D96BB061CFD11FE78-8018

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 312 14
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887
   Serial number: 357000000008236D321A
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 312 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887
   Serial number: 358000000009E36D321O
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 012 909 14
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  004 0108
   Serial number: 351001A01DD52E032EEF
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 409 14
   Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149
   Serial number: 3550002A9175A8D2A116
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 409 14
   Component: FrontSensor_P  001 6149
   Serial number: 3560002AB175A8D1A08E
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Center pedestrian protection crash sensor:
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 411 14
   Component: PedP_Sensor_C  001 6149
   Serial number: 2300002A51860BC3807Z
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Driver's side crash data pedestrian protection 2:
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 911 14
   Component: PedPSensor_D2  001 0887
   Serial number: I0M000000007416D221X
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Passenger's side crash data pedestrian protection 2:
   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 911 14
   Component: PedPSensor_P2  001 0887
   Serial number: I0N000000006A68C2212
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 8S0 907 129 R    HW: 8S0 907 129 R
   Component: Lenks. Modul  H07 0140
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 91335NLG01470
   Coding: 0008
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 019002
   ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_010_SE37.rod
   VCID: 499E8F16E8950DDE54-801C

No ASAM data for: "EV_SMLSKLOMQB" (AU37)
No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:* Redir Fail!-SRI2
   Part No SW: 8S0 920 790     HW: 8S0 920 790
   Component: FBenRDW       H32 0295
   Coding: 240D0110298406000123E8C09000800000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardBOSCHAU33X 001023
   ROD: EV_DashBoardBOSCHAU33X.rod
   VCID: 76E434EAC9EB3226E9-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 8S0 907 468 A    HW: 8S0 907 468
   Component: GW MQB TT3    012 0203
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 26111410801437 Dataset Number: 8S0909515A  0015
   Coding: 030100040F0276004B000268080000000000000000000000000000000001
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   GVL: 01543C1000000600408C10000000480000000000000000000000000000000000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewContiAU33X 011002
   ROD: EV_GatewContiAU33X_011.rod
   VCID: 3E74ECCAA15BBA66F1-806A

   Generator:

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8S0 951 523 B    HW: 8S0 951 523 B
   Component: J453 MFL  H06 0001
   Serial number: 20140916124500 RD311

   Battery Monitoring Control Module:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8S0 915 181 A    HW: 8S0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H04 8050
   Serial number: 9118435003       

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:| 1EA-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 905 861     HW: 3Q0 905 861
   Component: ELV-MQBB      H05 0031
   Serial number: 14000306487001
   Coding: 0100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMQBB 001007
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMQBB_VW37.rod
   VCID: 71EE07F6A085151E3C-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 D    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
   Component: TSG FS        020 0028
   Serial number: 061214BL40690A Dataset Number: 8S0909872B  0016
   Coding: 001346224001040100001402
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO.rod
   VCID: 428C983AD5A3DE8695-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 909 144 H    HW: 3Q0 909 144 H
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  505 5061
   Dataset Number: 8S0909852B  0007
   Coding: 8103
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_012_VW37.rod
   VCID: 377AF9EE8E618B2E32-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System
Cannot be reached

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 D    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0028
   Serial number: 161214BLG0308A Dataset Number: 8S0909873B  0016
   Coding: 001346224C01040100001402
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO.rod
   VCID: 418E9736D0A5C59E8C-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:| 4H4-907-357-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 4H4 907 357 E    HW: 7P6 907 357 B
   Component: MxB-ECU       001 0100
   Revision: --------    Serial number: -------------- Dataset Number: 8S0909865C  0023
   Coding: 03DE00102B230200
   Shop #: WSC 15017 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulAUDIMXBAU64X 005010
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulAUDIMXBAU64X_005_AU37.rod
   VCID: 3460CEE29F17603617-8060

   Left LED Headlamp Power Output Stage 1:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7PP 941 472 J    HW: 7PP 941 472 J  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LED LeiMo li.  H07 7560
   Coding: E01800

   Right LED Headlamp Power Output Stage 1:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7PP 941 472 J    HW: 7PP 941 472 J  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LED LeiMo re.  H07 7560
   Coding: E01800

   Left Headlamp Power Output Stage:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8S0 941 329     HW: 8S0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo links  H02 S002
   Coding: E01800

   Right Headlamp Power Output Stage:
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8S0 941 329     HW: 8S0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo rechts  H02 S002
   Coding: E01800

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr.
Cannot be reached

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Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242)       Labels:| 5Q0-980-653.clb
   Part No SW: 8S0 980 653     HW: 5Q0 980 653
   Component: MQB_MFK       H06 0002
   Serial number: 10000179191    Dataset Number: 8S0909466A  0012
   Coding: 0001010001010305000501000000010100
   Shop #: WSC 06385 790 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschAU370 001001
   ROD: EV_MFKBoschAU370.rod
   VCID: 7AFC20DAFDF356468D-802E

No fault code found.

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Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869)       Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
   Part No SW: 8S0 907 159     HW: 4H0 907 159 A
   Component: SAS-GEN 2     H07 0004
   Serial number: 141116201218
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
   ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X_003_VW37.rod
   VCID: 7AFC20DAFDF356468D-802E

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 05:45)--------------------------

So I checked for voltage and earth at the Fuel Pressure Sensor, and signal, which was 0.75v when I was expecting 1.5-2 v,
Checked for 12v and switching signal at the FPR, which were fine.
Suspected the FPR was at fault, so I swapped it with my Scirocco, which had the same part. Didn't start and the Scirocco did with the TT FPR.
Then I tried the solenoid on the HPFP, which had signal and 12v I so swapped that with the Scirocco too. When I cranked the TT, it now sounds like it is trying to fire but still no start.
I fired up the Scirocco, which ran for a few seconds, then cut out and would only crank but not try to fire. I tried priming the pump for a couple of minutes but still no luck. I then swapped the FPR and HPFP solenoid back to the original car, primed the Scirocco again but it is just spinning over but not firing, so now I have two disabled cars.

Is there a way to bleed the HP fuel system so I can get the Scirocco working so I can drive it to work on Monday?
 
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Is there a way to bleed the HP fuel system so I can get the Scirocco working so I can drive it to work on Monday?
On this TT, I would run the Basic Setting:
IDE00459 -- Test of transfer fuel pump

Our the Output Test for:
IDE00219-ENG167462 -- Fuel pump electronics

You may need to run them several times to get fuel all the way though the system.

And without seeing a scan from the Scirocco, it's just a guess whether it's the same.

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So I checked for 12v and earth at the Fuel Pressure Sensor, and signal, which was 0.75v when I was expecting 1.5-2 v,
:confused:
Fuel pressure sensor (G247) should have about 5V across /1 and /3.



Was there "glitter" to be found with the HPFP?

TDICRpumpfail.jpg
 
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:confused:
Fuel pressure sensor (G247) should have about 5V across /1 and /3.



Was there "glitter" to be found with the HPFP?

TDICRpumpfail.jpg
Sorry, I meant voltage and earth, not 12v at the sensor. It was 12v and switching at the regulator. There are a lot of Scotch induced spelling mistakes in my first post, I'll edit it later 🙃

And yes, I found the HPFP issue on the TT later on yesterday unfortunately after being prompted to look for it. There is zero on the Scirocco.
 
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On this TT, I would run the Basic Setting:
IDE00459 -- Test of transfer fuel pump

Our the Output Test for:
IDE00219-ENG167462 -- Fuel pump electronics

You may need to run them several times to get fuel all the way though the system.

And without seeing a scan from the Scirocco, it's just a guess whether it's the same.

-Uwe-


Thanks. I tried running the fuel pump for a couple of minutes in the output test but wasn't sure if it would bleed the high pressure side.

Here is the Scirocco scan;

Code:
Saturday,12,April,2025,12:24:06:11279




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Chassis Type: 13-VW36 (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 14 15 16 17 19 25 2E 42 44 46 52 56



01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1010
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFGB)       Labels:. 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 BB    HW: 03L 907 309 R
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H23 9977
   Revision: 42H23---    Serial number:                CVN: 7CB84C0D
   Coding: 00190012042500080000
   Shop #: WSC 65535 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018BB 003008
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018BB_003_VW36.rod
   VCID: 6BD2159E82A9FFCE06-803E
   VINID: 9E69EAAAA043A929800C10081822095E8A

3 Faults Found:
5211 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure
          P0087 00 [01100101] - Too Low
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 322714 km
                    Date: 2025.04.12.
                    Time: 11:37:53

                    Engine RPM: 646.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 100.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 19 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 16 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.500 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
                    Fuel temperature: 16.1 °C
                    Mean injection quantity: 36.34 mg/stroke
                    Rail pressure regulation: status-Bits 0-7: 5
                    Fuel high-pressure: actual value: 56000 hPa
                    High fuel pressure: specified value: 725000 hPa
                    Pressure control valve adaptation factor: 1.1016
                    Fuel level: 23.00 l

5215 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure
          P0087 00 [01100101] - Too Low
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 322714 km
                    Date: 2025.04.12.
                    Time: 11:37:53

                    Engine RPM: 1500.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 99.6 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 19 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 16 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.520 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 80
                    Fuel temperature: 16.1 °C
                    Mean injection quantity: 38.20 mg/stroke
                    Rail pressure regulation: status-Bits 0-7: 5
                    Fuel high-pressure: actual value: 60800 hPa
                    High fuel pressure: specified value: 1250300 hPa
                    Pressure control valve adaptation factor: 1.1016
                    Fuel level: 23.00 l

5132 - Valve for Fuel Metering (N290)
          P0090 00 [00100100] - Open Circuit
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 322714 km
                    Date: 2025.04.12.
                    Time: 11:39:03

                    Engine RPM: 0.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 20 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 17 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.240 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Engine status: COENG_FINISH
                    Engine status-Test_Program_Co Eng st COMPU VERB UBYTE: 5

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BE    HW: 1K0 907 379 BE
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0108
   Revision: 00H31001  
   Coding: 763B60F5492500FB6E0B06EC921F0082350000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 76E434EAC1EB3226E9-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 EA    HW: 5K0 907 044 EA
   Component: Climatronic   H17 1010
   Revision: 00003001  
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 6ED41C8AB1BB0AE621-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 J    HW: 5K0 937 086 J
   Component: BCM PQ35 M    011 0046
   Revision: BC011001  
   Coding: 48180A388025E100408800843400016643513B88536D85605C8000000040
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3B72E5DEBA49AF4ED6-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K8 955 119 G    HW: 1K8 955 119 G  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 17121  10  0603
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 080211 05  54  0403
   Coding: 0330ED

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104
   Coding: 000000

2 Faults Found:
00907 - Intervention load Management
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 170
                    Mileage: 322714 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.09.03.
                    Time: 12:10:09

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.70 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 169
                    Mileage: 322714 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.09.03.
                    Time: 09:47:52

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.60 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250)       Labels:. 3C0-907-376.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 907 376 A    HW: 3C0 907 376
   Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H07 0071
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 03021103590001
   Coding: 000180
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 275A29AE56C11BAEA2-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AE    HW: 1K0 909 605 AE
   Component: 0H AIRBAG VW8   020 2300
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 003D1D03D0HK
   Coding: 0012360
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 6FEA018E7EB103EE2A-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME5B26290DJ

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME5B45286ER

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME6C001B58K

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME26014A6EL

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 521 BN    HW: 5K0 953 569 E
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140
   Revision: FF010040    Serial number: 20110216100597
   Coding: 1082140000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 79FE3FD6F8F55D5E84-802C

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 A    HW: 5K0 959 542 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H07 0013
   Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 1K8 920 972 A    HW: 1K8 920 972 A
   Component: KOMBI         H20 0420
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 170B01
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 326CC8FA65036E0605-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 C    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway H37 0614
   Revision:   H37       Serial number: 060211F1001191
   Coding: 354001
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3068C2F2630F5C1673-8064

3 Faults Found:
00469 - Infotainment Databus in Single Wire Operation
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 8
                    Reset counter: 184
                    Mileage: 321358 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.09.03.
                    Time: 10:18:38

01304 - Radio
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 210
                    Mileage: 315284 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.09.03.
                    Time: 11:32:39

03272 - Control Module for Audio Interface
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 27
                    Mileage: 315284 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.09.03.
                    Time: 11:31:25


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H20 0420
   Serial number:              
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW23.rod
   VCID: 6ADC109A8D53E6C67D-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3
Cannot be reached

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 701 H    HW: 1Q0 959 701 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2130
   Coding: 0016949
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 397EFFD670759D5EC4-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 178    3201
   Revision: 00H20000  
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3460CEE25717603617-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 702 H    HW: 1Q0 959 702 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2130
   Coding: 0016948
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3A7CE0DA75739646CD-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:36)--------------------------

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Address 0x01,03L 906 018 BB,UDS Selective Output Tests,IDE00217-Electric Fuel Pump (FP) Relay

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Address 0x01,03L 906 018 BB,UDS Selective Output Tests,IDE00786-Auxiliary Fuel Pump (FP) Relay

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Address 0x01,03L 906 018 BB,UDS Basic Settings,IDE00470-ENG98891-Initial fuel filling

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Address 0x01,03L 906 018 BB,UDS Basic Settings,IDE00470-ENG98891-Initial fuel filling

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Address 0x01,03L 906 018 BB,UDS Selective Output Tests,IDE00217-Electric Fuel Pump (FP) Relay
 
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So you found sparkle dust in the TT and transferred the contaminated valve to the Scirocco?
 
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Here is the Scirocco scan;
Same Basic Setting:
IDE00459 -- Test of transfer fuel pump

Output Tests are a bit different.

I tried running the fuel pump for a couple of minutes in the output test but wasn't sure if it would bleed the high pressure side.
Only the mechanically driven high-pressure pump can bleed the high-pressure side, but that can only happen after the low pressure side is supplying fuel.

Let's hope you did not actually do this:
So you found sparkle dust in the TT and transferred the contaminated valve to the Scirocco?

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So you found sparkle dust in the TT and transferred the contaminated valve to the Scirocco?
I wasn’t aware at the time that that was a thing until afterwards, though I did clean the valves out with brake cleaner first.
 
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Same Basic Setting:
IDE00459 -- Test of transfer fuel pump

Output Tests are a bit different.


Only the mechanically driven high-pressure pump can bleed the high-pressure side, but that can only happen after the low pressure side is supplying fuel.

Let's hope you did not actually do this:


-Uwe-
I figured the HPFP wasn’t going fast enough to create sufficient pressure, so I sprayed brake cleaner into the air intake and it started, so I left it running a while before switching off and trying again. Left it a while and tried a few more times, then took it for a drive with no issues. Scanned it and no engine faults came up, so I’m hoping that’s it for the Scirocco. I still have the issue on my daughter’s TT but that’s almost certainly the HPFP.

Thanks all for the assistance, it’s much appreciated.
 
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I still have the issue on my daughter’s TT but that’s almost certainly the HPFP.
If the HPFP on that car has failed, the car needs a whole bunch of new parts starting with injectors, as well as the whole fuel system being thoroughly cleaned. Simply replacing the HPFP would be a fools errand if there is any "glitter" contamination anywhere, since that will trash a new pump in short order.

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If the HPFP on that car has failed, the car needs a whole bunch of new parts starting with injectors, as well as the whole fuel system being thoroughly cleaned. Simply replacing the HPFP would be a fools errand if there is any "glitter" contamination anywhere, since that will trash a new pump in short order.

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Yep, I’m finding that out from looking deeper into it. Thanks though.
 
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VW state to replace the entire high pressure system including the injectors but we clean the hoses and piping to save money. The trouble is, we have also seen particles in the low pressure side so it becomes a huge job. When we do a fuel filter, we always check for the early warning signs hoping to catch it before total failure

 
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Thanks.

I think it might be better to break or sell as it is, as she wanted to sell it anyway and it seems a lot of money and effort to repair only for her to sell it straight afterwards.
 
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Thanks.

I think it might be better to break or sell as it is, as she wanted to sell it anyway and it seems a lot of money and effort to repair only for her to sell it straight afterwards.
yeeeah, there are some crazy repair prices in UK , par with USA prices :) . Send the car to Romania, I'll fix it for you for less than half , shipping included. How's 1.399 euros sound ? :cool:
 
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When I was at the dealer, if there was glitter, you were to replace the fuel cap and the fuel injectors... and EVERYTHING in between. I think now days it is generally accepted to flush out some stuff like fuel lines and such... but getting the fuel tank cleaned out might be a tall task.

The reason at the time for replacing everything... the fuel system loops back to the fuel tank, so glitter back there to be pumped up to the engine bay again and again. It becomes possible for partials pass through the fuel filter and damage the injectors. Injectors, while to too difficult to replaced, are not cheap.

And over the years I've seen a good number of cases of HPFP glitter bomb and then people try to short cut the repairs only to have the replacement HPFP glitter bomb.

Then there is the whole DPF issues that can't be legally fixed.... :banghead:
 
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yeeeah, there are some crazy repair prices in UK , par with USA prices :) . Send the car to Romania, I'll fix it for you for less than half , shipping included. How's 1.399 euros sound ? :cool:
Too good to be true, so…..
 
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Too good to be true, so…..
Oooh..but we do... ! No , shipping it s not included , that was in the spirit of making a joke :thumbs:
 
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