Tiguan - Park/Steer Assist - Missing Message

Tregged · Apr 9, 2025

TTT said:
I see I was not explicit enough. Blockmap for park steering assist, module 10. Go for the bulls eye, where the issue is! Anything else at this time is waste of time.

So, I have created admap and blockmap files, both saved as .CSV, What do I do with these, as I don't have any means to read them?

TTT · Apr 10, 2025

Open with notepad, copy paste contents here using this button as well: </>

Tregged · Apr 10, 2025

TTT said:
Open with notepad, copy paste contents here using this button as well: </>

Code:

;SW:3AA-919-475-L   HW:4H0-919-475-E ---  Park/Steer Assist
;Component:PARKHILFE PLA H06 0025; Coding:149203
;EV_EPHVA2C000000000;002008;EV_EPHVA2C000000000_002_VW36,rod
;Wednesday;09;April;2025;21:48:22:19169
;VCDS Version: Release 25,3,0 (x64)  Data version: 20250311 DS365,0
;VCID: 44D04BEE2E1F713AEBF-8010

Group;Description;Actual
IDE00018;Voltage terminal 15;12,5; V
IDE00075;Vehicle speed;0,00; km/h
IDE00323;Security Access: Number of invalid keys;0;
IDE00325;Diagnostic mode;VW - diagnostic mode;
IDE00610-ENG104066;Time Out Recognition-EMC Timeout Detection;|Control module;Number of timeouts|Brake electronics;0|Steering Column Electronics;255|Instrument cluster;0|Power steering;0|Data Bus OBD Interface;0|;
IDE00767;No, of unscheduled ECU resets;109;
IDE00957;Resulting distance of front sensors;infinite;
IDE00958;Resulting distance of rear sensors;infinite;
IDE00973;Outside temperature;12; °C
IDE00974;Outside air temperature internally calculated;8; °C
IDE01122-MAS00988;Parking aid input signal-Reverse gear;Yes;
IDE01122-MAS01374;Parking aid input signal-Trailer;not installed;
IDE01123;Distance of left rear park assist sensor;infinite;
IDE01124;Distance of left rear center park assist sensors;infinite;
IDE01125;Distance of right rear center park assist sensors;infinite;
IDE01126;Distance of right rear park assist sensor;infinite;
IDE01127;Distance sensor for left front park assist;infinite;
IDE01128;Distance sensor for left front center park assist;infinite;
IDE01129;Distance sensor for right front center park assist;infinite;
IDE01130;Distance of right front park assist sensors;infinite;
IDE01131;Oscillating time of left rear park assist sensors;1,008; ms
IDE01132;Oscillating time of left rear center park assist sensors;1,008; ms
IDE01133;Oscillating time of right rear center park assist sensors;1,040; ms
IDE01134;Oscillating time of right rear park assist sensors;1,056; ms
IDE01135;Decay time for left front park assist sensor;1,088; ms
IDE01136;Decay time for left front center park assist sensor;1,024; ms
IDE01137;Decay time for right front center park assist sensors;1,056; ms
IDE01138;Decay time for right front park assist sensors;1,104; ms
IDE01162-MAS01426;Factory setting for park assist volume/frequencies-Rear parking aid buzzer: volume;Stage 4;
IDE01162-MAS01427;Factory setting for park assist volume/frequencies-Speaker frequency for rear park assist;Stage 4;
IDE01162-MAS01428;Factory setting for park assist volume/frequencies-Front parking aid buzzer: volume;Stage 4;
IDE01162-MAS01429;Factory setting for park assist volume/frequencies-Speaker frequency for front park assist;Stage 6;
IDE01163;Sound output for park assist in selector lever position P;not installed;
IDE01164;Parking aid button;Not operated;
IDE01165;Park assist activation tone;On;
IDE01166;Supply voltage for park assist sensor;12,5; V
IDE01167;Convertible offset for volume level 1;15;
IDE01168;Increment for convertible volume levels;4;
IDE01169;Audio lowering request;Yes;
IDE01170;Visual display for park assist;OPS display;
IDE01171;Convertible factory setting offset for volume level 1;not installed;
IDE01172;Factory setting for increment for convertible volume levels;not installed;
IDE01173;Factory setting: audio lowering;Yes;
IDE01174;Factory setting: visual display for park assist;OPS display;
IDE01175;Distance of side left rear parking aid sensors;infinite;
IDE01176;Distance of side right rear parking aid sensors;infinite;
IDE01177;Oscillating time of side left rear parking aid sensors;1,008; ms
IDE01178;Oscillating time of side right rear parking aid sensors;0,992; ms
IDE01185;Distance sensor for left front parking aid;infinite;
IDE01186;Distance sensor for right front parking aid;infinite;
IDE01187;Decay time for side left front parking aid sensor;1,136; ms
IDE01188;Decay time for right side front parking aid sensor;1,088; ms
IDE01411-IDE01170;Personalization 1 for park assist-Visual display for park assist;OPS display;
IDE01411-MAS01426;Personalization 1 for park assist-Rear parking aid buzzer: volume;Stage 4;
IDE01411-MAS01427;Personalization 1 for park assist-Speaker frequency for rear park assist;Stage 4;
IDE01411-MAS01428;Personalization 1 for park assist-Front parking aid buzzer: volume;Stage 4;
IDE01411-MAS01429;Personalization 1 for park assist-Speaker frequency for front park assist;Stage 6;
IDE01411-MAS01431;Personalization 1 for park assist-Vehicle key with remote control;active;
IDE01412-IDE01170;Personalization 2 for park assist-Visual display for park assist;OPS display;
IDE01412-MAS01426;Personalization 2 for park assist-Rear parking aid buzzer: volume;Stage 4;
IDE01412-MAS01427;Personalization 2 for park assist-Speaker frequency for rear park assist;Stage 4;
IDE01412-MAS01428;Personalization 2 for park assist-Front parking aid buzzer: volume;Stage 4;
IDE01412-MAS01429;Personalization 2 for park assist-Speaker frequency for front park assist;Stage 6;
IDE01412-MAS01431;Personalization 2 for park assist-Vehicle key with remote control;not active;
IDE01413-IDE01170;Personalization 3 for park assist-Visual display for park assist;OPS display;
IDE01413-MAS01426;Personalization 3 for park assist-Rear parking aid buzzer: volume;Stage 4;
IDE01413-MAS01427;Personalization 3 for park assist-Speaker frequency for rear park assist;Stage 4;
IDE01413-MAS01428;Personalization 3 for park assist-Front parking aid buzzer: volume;Stage 4;
IDE01413-MAS01429;Personalization 3 for park assist-Speaker frequency for front park assist;Stage 6;
IDE01413-MAS01431;Personalization 3 for park assist-Vehicle key with remote control;not active;
IDE01414-IDE01170;Personalization 4 for park assist-Visual display for park assist;OPS display;
IDE01414-MAS01426;Personalization 4 for park assist-Rear parking aid buzzer: volume;Stage 4;
IDE01414-MAS01427;Personalization 4 for park assist-Speaker frequency for rear park assist;Stage 4;
IDE01414-MAS01428;Personalization 4 for park assist-Front parking aid buzzer: volume;Stage 4;
IDE01414-MAS01429;Personalization 4 for park assist-Speaker frequency for front park assist;Stage 6;
IDE01414-MAS01431;Personalization 4 for park assist-Vehicle key with remote control;not active;
IDE01588;Driving direction;Reverse;
IDE01632;System status of parking aid;Malfunction;
IDE01633;Cause for parking aid shut-off;Malfunction;
IDE01943;Turn signal lamp;Not operated;
IDE01965;Parallel parking assistance button;Not operated;
IDE01966;Cause of parallel park assist switching off;No shut-off requirement;
IDE01967;Parking side;Left;
IDE02617;System malfunction;No;
IDE03008-IDE03726;Stop process prevented-Parallel Parking Assistance;passive;
IDE03008-MAS00825;Stop process prevented-Parking Aid Control Module;passive;
IDE03010-IDE03726;Number of prevented stop processes-Parallel Parking Assistance;1;
IDE03010-MAS00825;Number of prevented stop processes-Parking Aid Control Module;0;
IDE03127;Prevented stop processes (ring memory);|;Year;Month;Day;Hours;Minutes;Seconds|Parallel Parking Assistance;2118;14;0;15;14;29|Measuring value not available;2127;15;31;31;63;63|Measuring value not available;2127;15;31;31;63;63|Measuring value not available;2127;15;31;31;63;63|Measuring value not available;2127;15;31;31;63;63|;
IDE03212;Start/stop conditions;Stop release;
IDE03683;Request power steering boost;No;
IDE03684;Vehicle stopped;Yes;
IDE03783;Switch-on speed for parallel parking assist;37; km/h
IDE03784;Temporary function limitation due to environmental influences;40; km/h
MAS01426;Rear parking aid buzzer: volume;Stage 4;
MAS01427;Speaker frequency for rear park assist;Stage 4;
MAS01428;Front parking aid buzzer: volume;Stage 4;
MAS01429;Speaker frequency for front park assist;Stage 6;
MAS02980;Manual steering torque;-0,0; Nm
ENG105237;Ausrichtung_BS_BF;No;
ENG105238;Ausrichtung_BS_Fahrer;No;
ENG105362;BS_BF_Alt;No;
ENG105363;BS_erkannt_BF;No;
ENG105364;BS_Erkannt_Fahrer;No;
ENG105365;BS_Erkannt_Fahrer_Alt;No;
ENG106720;Fzgx_Max;1500,0; cm
ENG106721;Fzgy_Max;410,0; cm
ENG107328;L_Min;230,9; cm
ENG107330;L_Rangier;70,0; cm
ENG108155;Parking_Aid_Senders_Cutoff_Time;30; s
ENG108195;PL_Länge_BF;0,0; cm
ENG108196;PL_Länge_BF_Alt;0,0; cm
ENG108197;PL_Länge_Fahrer;0,0; cm
ENG108198;PL_Länge_Fahrer_Alt;0,0; cm
ENG108199;PL_Tiefe_BF;0,0; cm
ENG108200;PL_Tiefe_BF_Alt;0,0; cm
ENG108201;PL_Tiefe_Fahrer;0,0; cm
ENG108202;PL_Tiefe_Fahrer_Alt;0,0; cm
ENG108329;Psi0_BF;0,00; °
ENG108330;Psi0_BF_Alt;0,00; °
ENG108331;Psi0_Fahrer;0,00; °
ENG108332;Psi0_Fahrer_Alt;0,00; °
ENG109009;Speed_Limit_Power_Steering;7; km/h
ENG109117;Steering_Angle_Actual_Value;-202,1; °
ENG109118;Steering_Angle_Nominal_Value;-209,4; °
ENG109301;T_Min;0,0; cm
ENG109901;Visual_Indication_PLA;No;
ENG110295;X0_BF;0,0; cm
ENG110296;X0_BF_Alt;0,0; cm
ENG110297;X0_Fahrer;0,0; cm
ENG110298;X0_Fahrer_Alt;0,0; cm
ENG110299;Xa_BF_Alt;-89,8; cm
ENG110300;Xa_Fahrer_Alt;-89,8; cm
ENG110301;Y0_BF;0,0; cm
ENG110302;Y0_BF_Alt;0,0; cm
ENG110303;Y0_Fahrer;0,0; cm
ENG110304;Y0_Fahrer_Alt;0,0; cm
ENG110305;Ya_BF_Alt;-90,4; cm
ENG110306;Ya_Fahrer_Alt;-90,4; cm

Thank you, I've not used this function before, every day's a school day!

TTT · Apr 10, 2025

IDE00610-ENG104066;Time Out Recognition-EMC Timeout Detection;|Control module;Number of timeouts|Brake electronics;0|Steering Column Electronics;255|Instrument cluster;0|Power steering;0|Data Bus OBD Interface;0|;

Looks like this module tried to talk to Steering column electronics and failed 255 times.

Now its time to pull the wiring diagram out and check how this module talks to module Steering column electronics J527 Is it 1 wire canbus?

Tregged · Apr 10, 2025

TTT said:
IDE00610-ENG104066;Time Out Recognition-EMC Timeout Detection;|Control module;Number of timeouts|Brake electronics;0|Steering Column Electronics;255|Instrument cluster;0|Power steering;0|Data Bus OBD Interface;0|;

Looks like this module tried to talk to Steering column electronics and failed 255 times.

Now its time to pull the wiring diagram out and check how this module talks to module Steering column electronics J527 Is it 1 wire canbus?

I think this is where I might struggle. I used Erwin to download some manuals, but the park assist module (J719) is only mentioned once and that simply shows the power supply. I might need a model specific diagram. The steering control module has two can bus pairs, but I can see no module interaction with the diagrams that I have. The thing is, the steering lock signal is one discrete in a whole host of different signals and that goes through J527 first, so when I get time next week, I'll check the switch and loom into J527.

Edit: Are these switches prone to problems?

TTT · Apr 10, 2025

I got all my car’s wiring diagrams from erwin, in 1h session in EU. I don’t miss anything.
Let’s keep the steering lock out of this, it has no business in this issue. Ignition key position yes.
I advise against going hardware checks for now, no other module complains of the switch. This most probably is software/coding but 1st you need to aim at the faulty place, which is not yet determined.

Tregged · Apr 10, 2025

TTT said:
I got all my car’s wiring diagrams from erwin, in 1h session in EU. I don’t miss anything.
Let’s keep the steering lock out of this, it has no business in this issue. Ignition key position yes.
I advise against going hardware checks for now, no other module complains of the switch. This most probably is software/coding but 1st you need to aim at the faulty place, which is not yet determined.

Aside from the supply, there are 5 other wires on the switch, all providing some sort of signal to J527. For whatever reason, the park assist module, J719 does not exist in the circuit diagrams. I will have to search again, but Erwin didn't appear to offer any more diagrams for this car.
At the moment, with no other related fault codes, logic would dictate that there is a discrete signal missing, as all other data transfer appears to be ok. The discrete would feed into the module chip and be processed there. It could be that coding has turned the signal off, or there is a fault in the module. I don't know enough about how the modules process their data, but a failure in the handling of one single signal would seem odd.
Anyway, it's a moot point, until I can get the time to properly investigate, but I believe that I am in the right area. I will report back, once I know more, or have fixed it.

Tregged · Apr 12, 2025

Update:
I've now had some time to spend on this, so took off the steering trim to have a look.
The switch only has 4 wires in the harness, not the 6 shown in the circuit diagram. Red, white, yellow and blue.
In the off position, red and yellow have continuity.
In the on position, red, yellow and blue have continuity.
In neither position does white link to the others, but it has continuity between each end of the harness.
The circuit diagram doesn't show the white wire, much less say what any of them actually do.

One standout observation, is that the steering control module is not original and looks to have been replaced recently, this is possibly the smoking gun, as I am not a believer in co-incidence.
The Pn is as per the scan 5K0 953 569 AG. D.O.M 26th March 2024 (This is a 2012 car). There are CN manufacture labels on this part, I do not know if this is relevant.

Is there a way to find out what the original fit should be? At this point, if replacing a faulty module, I may as well look towards cruise control retrofit as well.

Tregged · Apr 13, 2025

Hi all,

My Tiguan currently has an issue with the park assist function not working. Delving deeper, I believe that it has possibly been fitted with the incorrect module, but what I would like to know is whether or not, it matters that I fit a module with automatic transmission functionality when I have a manual gearbox?
Also, what is the difference between G85 connected to steering control module, or otherwise? My currently fitted module is a ***569 AG and I wish to install cruise control.

Any guidance is much appreciated.

Crasher · Apr 13, 2025

Please post a full vehicle scan and include the VIN.

TTT · Apr 13, 2025

No no wtf, you have another topic for this, why are you doing this?

Tregged · Apr 13, 2025

TTT said:
No no wtf, you have another topic for this, why are you doing this?

Different question entirely.
This is regarding the understanding of module cross compatibility, nothing to do do with fault codes.

Tregged · Apr 13, 2025

Crasher said:
Please post a full vehicle scan and include the VIN.

Code:

Tuesday,08,April,2025,19:34:45:19169
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 25.3.0.4 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4660.4
Data version: 20250311 DS365.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVGZZZ5NZCW051868   License Plate: NV12 FAO
Mileage: 116720km-72526mi   Repair Order: 1st New Scan



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Chassis Type: 5N-VW36 (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 22 25 2E 42 44 46 4C 52 53 56 61
          62 72 77

VIN: WVGZZZ5NZCW051868   Mileage: 116720km-72526miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB)       Labels:. 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 E    HW: 03L 907 309 AE
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H25 9977 
   Revision: 41H25---    Serial number: 00000000000000 CVN: 37112754
   Coding: 00190032040701080000
   Shop #: WSC 00784 210 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018E 003010
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018E_VW36.rod
   VCID: 2C00034EA68F997A03F-8078
   VINID: 9E65EAAAA15EA939C014120620694E5ADC

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-109-C6.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 AP    HW: 5N0 614 109 AP
   Component: J104   C6 450M VD63 0005 
   Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000005096345
   Coding: 0040254
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 79AEEA1A15DDFCD2C89-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 ES    HW: 5K0 907 044 ES
   Component: Climatronic   H18 1112 
   Revision: 00001004   
   Coding: 0000004003
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 005887FE7A87AD1A8F7-8054

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 M    HW: 5K0 937 086 M
   Component: BCM PQ35 M    021 0064 
   Revision: BC021001   
   Coding: 48180A3B8025F1C0400800C0340081E44B510088436D85606480C7000041
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 3E24390640731BEABDB-806A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N2 955 119     HW:              Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 05121  013 0203
   Serial number: N2955119   ∞203!
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 011211 05  54  0403
   Coding: 02304D

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104
   Coding: 000000

2 Faults Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 93
                    Mileage: 116508 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.08.30.
                    Time: 00:27:17

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 12.60 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF

01565 - Luggage Compartment Light (W3)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 93
                    Mileage: 116512 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.08.30.
                    Time: 02:07:51

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 12.55 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 3AA-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 919 475 L    HW: 4H0 919 475 E
   Component: PARKHILFE PLA H06 0025 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 56261133800643
   Coding: 149203
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2C000000000 002008
   ROD: EV_EPHVA2C000000000_002_VW36.rod
   VCID: 44D04BEE2E1F713AEBF-8010


          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 93
                    Mileage: 116508 km
                    Date: 2025.04.08.
                    Time: 00:27:16


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 R    HW: 5N0 959 655 R
   Component: J234__207 VW10 HI   1918 
   Revision: 23016000    Serial number: 003K0PQDRCA7 
   Coding: 0012343
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 4CC063CE0ACFB97A23F-8018

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS673623251

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS670013251

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS615IP0AKR

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6H4IP0AKR

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 CA    HW: 5K0 953 569 AG
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0162 
   Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20240522000633
   Coding: 1002040002
   Shop #: WSC 09550 758 180955
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 6E84C9465013AB6A6DB-803A

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 A    HW: 5K0 959 542 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H09 0013
   Serial number: 0709759             
   Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5N0 920 982 D    HW: 5N0 920 982 D
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0417 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 411F01
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3536262A75C5D8B26C1-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 N    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway H43 1623 
   Revision:   H43       Serial number: 301111F1000352
   Coding: 356003
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 3B22301253610EC29A5-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 0AY 907 554 E    HW: 0AY 907 554 E
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      0043 
   Coding: 0000005
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 4DC66ECAF1D5B072341-8018

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H04 0417 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW32.rod
   VCID: 6A8CC5566CFB474A313-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 E    HW: 5N0 035 342 E
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0240 
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7661451351   
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 290EFA5AA9FD8C52F89-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 701 F    HW: 3C0 959 793 B
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0504 
   Revision: 13110009    Serial number: 0003867877
   Coding: 0202B4
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
   VCID: 38282F1E62D725DA777-806C

   Slave Driver:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 F    HW: 3C0 959 795 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  007 1504
   Serial number: 00000006308088     
   Coding: 000090

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 5N0 909 144 N
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 202    3301 
   Revision: 00H22000   
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 3C20330E5A6F09FA93F-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 702 F    HW: 3C0 959 792 B
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0504 
   Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0003874486
   Coding: 0202B4
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
   VCID: 392E2A1A59DD3CD2889-806C

   Slave Passenger:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 F    HW: 3C0 959 794 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  007 1504
   Serial number: 00000006299501     
   Coding: 000090

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 G    HW: 3AA 907 801 G
   Component: J540 EPB4  VW-64783 0009 
   Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000000473193
   Coding: 0026167
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 3536262A7945D8B26C1-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 195 G    HW: 3C8 035 195 G
   Component: Radio RCD510  050 0207 
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z3L6698061
   Coding: 0100040004000C
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 2C00034EA60F997A03F-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: Batt.regelung H43 1623 
   Serial number: 301111F1000352
   Coding: 030F185A
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 71BED23A41ADB492709-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 H    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0180
   Serial number: 00000000008900266073

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 035 730 D    HW: 5K0 035 730 D
   Component: TELEFON       H09 2902 
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007661444296 Dataset Number: 5K0035730D  0001
   Coding: 0A01000000010101
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA A01719
   ROD: UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 2614F166B863A32AD5B-8072

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:27, VBatt start/end: 12.4V/12.4V)-----------
------------------------------3 Faults Found-------------------------------

Uwe · Apr 13, 2025

Tregged said:
Is there a way to find out what the original fit should be?

Sure, you have a dealer's parts department look up the correct replacement part number by VIN, or you buy a one-day subscription to PL24 and do so yourself.

-Uwe-

Uwe · Apr 13, 2025

Tregged said:
Different question entirely.

No, it isn't. Threads merged.

-Uwe-

Tregged · Apr 13, 2025

Uwe said:
No, it isn't. Threads merged.

-Uwe-

Where then, should I ask questions regarding retrofits? As this is what I am looking at achieving. The fault may or may not be related to the steering control module and its replacement may, or may not fix the fault. I looked at the website and saw...

"Due to the volume of retrofitting requests we have added the following to the Technical Support Policy for common retrofitting scenarios. If you've installed a part that is not an identical replacement for a part that was installed in your car from the factory, please post your question on a forum , preferably Ross-Tech's own Retrofitting Forum , so that others may contribute to the answers and benefit in the future."

At this point in time, the fault with my car is 'parked', until I can get more information. The code is not specific enough to lead me to any particular conclusion, other than an 'ignition lock' signal is not being seen by the park assist. The Erwin system has not provided any specific vehicle information and the circuit diagram appears to be generic, so my educated guess at this point, would be a problem with the steering module, replacement of which with the right module and related components, will allow activation of the CCS. If the fault remains as is, then it likely wasn't the module.

Therefore, replacement of the module would be done primarily for the benefit of retrofitting cruise control, with a side effect of possibly curing the fault. This leads back to my questions about module cross compatibility.

I didn't want to derail my initial thread of fault diagnosis and muddy the waters with retrofitting.

Crasher · Apr 13, 2025

The installation list says there is a fault at address 10 but there is nothing in the scan as it has clearly been edited, why?

I get the controller to be 3AA 919 475 L but this could be a supersession, I need to be at work to check on ETKA.

The steering column controllers on Tiguans can be a sketch, I have a 2015 coming in tomorrow from another VAG specialist (with ODIS) with problems after fitting a new genuine TPS part, twice!

Tregged · Apr 13, 2025

Crasher said:
The installation list says there is a fault at address 10 but there is nothing in the scan as it has clearly been edited, why?

I get the controller to be 3AA 919 475 L but this could be a supersession, I need to be at work to check on ETKA.

The steering column controllers on Tiguans can be a sketch, I have a 2015 coming in tomorrow from another VAG specialist (with ODIS) with problems after fitting a new genuine TPS part, twice!

I probably cut rather than copied.

Code:

1 Fault Found:
12718592 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001001] - Missing Message
          [Steuergerät für Lenksäulenelektronik-J527/BCM - mZAS_1 - kein Signal/keine Kommunikation]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

[/CODE]

It's effectively a copy of the initial scan on page one, but using the new interface. Merging the two threads has confused the two issues somewhat.
I'm trying to avoid having to disturb the airbag too many times, so want to get everything together before I start.
As per usual, second hand car gremlins never reveal themselves until a few weeks after handing over the cash.

Uwe · Apr 13, 2025

Tregged said:
Where then, should I ask questions regarding retrofits?

Have you retrofitted something? My understanding was that you're trying to repair a car in which someone else may have installed an incorrect part.

-Uwe-

Crasher · Apr 13, 2025

Tregged said:
I probably cut rather than copied.

Code:

1 Fault Found: 12718592 - Databus U1121 00 [00001001] - Missing Message [Steuergerät für Lenksäulenelektronik-J527/BCM - mZAS_1 - kein Signal/keine Kommunikation] Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

[/CODE]

It's effectively a copy of the initial scan on page one, but using the new interface. Merging the two threads has confused the two issues somewhat.
I'm trying to avoid having to disturb the airbag too many times, so want to get everything together before I start.
As per usual, second hand car gremlins never reveal themselves until a few weeks after handing over the cash.

I will be interested to compare the code read tomorrow. From memory it is similar.

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