Tiguan - Park/Steer Assist - Missing Message

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Good afternoon all,

Please see my scan below for my recently purchased Tiguan. I am working through the faults and one that stands out as a bit of a head scratcher, is the U1121 fault code for the park assist. I't looks like the system is looking for something that doesn't exist, but I cannot see what that might be.
The current coding in the module is 149203. There is no towbar fitted and I'm currently trying to find the option codes to see what should be fitted/activated.
Thanks for any help in advance.

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Thursday,03,April,2025,18:54:32:38737
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 25.3.0.4 (x64)
Data version: 20250311 DS365.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVGZZZ5NZCW051868   License Plate:
Mileage: 116490km-72383mi   Repair Order: 1st Scan



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Chassis Type: 5N-VW36 (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 22 25 2E 42 44 46 4C 52 53 56 61
          62 72 77

VIN: WVGZZZ5NZCW051868   Mileage: 116490km-72383miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB)       Labels:. 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 E    HW: 03L 907 309 AE
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H25 9977
   Revision: 41H25---    Serial number: 00000000000000 CVN: 37112754
   Coding: 00190032040701080000
   Shop #: WSC 00784 210 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018E 003010
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018E_VW36.rod
   VCID: 2C5D3810479C66FB4B-8078
   VINID: 9E65EAAAA15EA939C014120620694E5ADC

1 Fault Found:
4984 - Cylinder 1 Glow Plug Circuit (Q10)
          P0671 00 [01100101] - Electrical Fault
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 116203 km
                    Date: 2025.04.03.
                    Time: 23:58:36

                    Engine speed: 1687.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 48.6 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 37 ∞C
                    Intake air temperature: 14 ∞C
                    Ambient air pressure: 970 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.720 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Electric auxiliary heater: shut-off conditions-Bits 0-7: 2
                    Electric auxiliary heater: shut-off conditions-Bits 0-7: 128
                    Electric auxiliary heater: relay activation-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Pre-glow time: 2000 ms
                    Glow status-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Glow status-Bits 0-7: 176
                    Glow cycles above temperature threshold-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Glow cycles above temperature threshold-Bits 0-7: 16
                    Glow cycles below temperature threshold-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Glow cycles below temperature threshold-Bits 0-7: 8
                    Outside temperature: 12.5 ∞C

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-109-C6.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 AP    HW: 5N0 614 109 AP
   Component: J104   C6 450M VD5C 0005
   Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000005096345
   Coding: 0040254
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 79F3D144304E035380-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 ES    HW: 5K0 907 044 ES
   Component: Climatronic   H18 1112
   Revision: 00001004  
   Coding: 0000004003
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 0005BCA09B94529BC7-8054

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 M    HW: 5K0 937 086 M
   Component: BCM PQ35 M    021 0064
   Revision: BC021001  
   Coding: 48180A3B8025F1C0400800C0340081E44B510088436D85606480C7000041
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 3E790258A9E0E46BF5-806A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N2 955 119     HW:              Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 05121  013 0203
   Serial number: N2955119   ∞203!
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 011211 05  54  0403
   Coding: 02304D

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104
   Coding: 000000

2 Faults Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 90
                    Mileage: 116203 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.08.25.
                    Time: 23:58:39

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.40 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF

01565 - Luggage Compartment Light (W3)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 91
                    Mileage: 116208 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.08.25.
                    Time: 12:37:27

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.00 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 3AA-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 919 475 L    HW: 4H0 919 475 E
   Component: PARKHILFE PLA H06 0025
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 56261133800643
   Coding: 149203
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2C000000000 002008
   ROD: EV_EPHVA2C000000000_002_VW36.rod
   VCID: 448D70B0CF0C8EBBA3-8010

1 Fault Found:
12718592 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001001] - Missing Message
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 90
                    Mileage: 116203 km
                    Date: 2025.04.03.
                    Time: 23:58:38


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 R    HW: 5N0 959 655 R
   Component: J234__207 VW10 HI   1918
   Revision: 23016000    Serial number: 003K0PQDRCA7
   Coding: 0012343
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 4C9D58902F5C46FB6B-8018

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS673623251

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS670013251

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS615IP0AKR

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS6H4IP0AKR

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 CA    HW: 5K0 953 569 AG
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0162
   Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20240522000633
   Coding: 1002040002
   Shop #: WSC 09550 758 180955
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 6ED9F218B10054EB25-803A

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 A    HW: 5K0 959 542 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H09 0013
   Serial number: 0709759           
   Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5N0 920 982 D    HW: 5N0 920 982 D
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0417
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 411F01
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 356B1D7494D6273324-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 N    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway H43 1623
   Revision:   H43       Serial number: 301111F1000352
   Coding: 356003
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 3B7F0B4CBAF2F143D2-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 0AY 907 554 E    HW: 0AY 907 554 E
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      0043
   Coding: 0000005
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 4D9B5594D4464FF37C-8018

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H04 0417
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW32.rod
   VCID: 6AD1FE088DE8B8CB79-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 E    HW: 5N0 035 342 E
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0240
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7661451351  
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 2953C104406E73D3B0-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 701 F    HW: 3C0 959 793 B
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0504
   Revision: 13110009    Serial number: 0003867877
   Coding: 0202B4
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
   VCID: 3875144083C4DA5B3F-806C

   Slave Driver:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 F    HW: 3C0 959 795 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  007 1504
   Serial number: 00000006308088    
   Coding: 000090

1 Fault Found:
66048 - Motor for Front Window Regulator
          B11EC 54 [00001000] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 131
                    Mileage: 116203 km
                    Date: 2025.04.03.
                    Time: 23:58:42


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 5N0 909 144 N
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 202    3301
   Revision: 00H22000  
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 3C7D08507FFCF67BDB-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 702 F    HW: 3C0 959 792 B
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0504
   Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0003874486
   Coding: 0202B4
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
   ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
   VCID: 39731144B8CEC353C0-806C

   Slave Passenger:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 F    HW: 3C0 959 794 C  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  007 1504
   Serial number: 00000006299501    
   Coding: 000090

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 G    HW: 3AA 907 801 G
   Component: J540 EPB4  VW-64783 0009
   Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000000473193
   Coding: 0026167
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 356B1D745CD6273324-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 195 G    HW: 3C8 035 195 G
   Component: Radio RCD510  050 0207
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z3L6698061
   Coding: 0100040004000C
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 2C5D38104F9C66FB4B-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: Batt.regelung H43 1623
   Serial number: 301111F1000352
   Coding: 030F185A
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   VCID: 71E3E964A83E4B1338-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 H    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0180
   Serial number: 00000000008900266073

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 035 730 D    HW: 5K0 035 730 D
   Component: TELEFON       H09 2902
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007661444296 Dataset Number: 5K0035730D  0001
   Coding: 0A01000000010101
   Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA A01719
   ROD: UHVNA.rod
   VCID: 2649CA3859705CAB9D-8072

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:28)--------------------------
------------------------------5 Faults Found-------------------------------
 
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12718592 - Databus
U1121 00 [00001001] - Missing Message
[New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
J527/BCM - mZAS_1 - kein Signal/keine Kommunikation

But I am not sure what mZAS_1 is.

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During diagnostics, other warnings came up for low battery voltage and a repetitive 'bong' sound, sure enough, the battery looks goosed, with 9v with ignition on and 12v at rest, ignition off. I had better replace this before going any further.
 
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Ok, battery replaced, any ideas folks?
 
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J527/BCM - mZAS_1 - kein Signal/keine Kommunikation

But I am not sure what mZAS_1 is.

-Uwe-
Where does that information come from and why the link to the BCM? If I knew what the message actually meant, I'd have half a chance of resolving the issue.
That message says no signal or communication, so perhaps a data wire broken or incorrect coding.
 
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ZAS = ZündAnlassSchloss (Ignition lock)
J527 = 16: Steering wheel
 
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ZAS = ZündAnlassSchloss (Ignition lock)
J527 = 16: Steering wheel
So, is that what the U1121 code is? UDS and therefore why I cannot see the message?
 
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So, is that what the U1121 code is?
Put a new battery in this car and clear the fault, please. Revisit only if it comes back.

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I did and it did.

Having slept on this, lets see if I understand this correctly...
The fault is on the park assist system. The actual fault is U1121 'Missing Message', so the module is missing data from the steering control module, which it obviously sees, so data is transferring. The message that is missing is coming from the ignition lock on J527, so perhaps coding, or a faulty module.
How did you glean 'J527/BCM - mZAS_1 - kein Signal/keine Kommunikation' from the fault code? Was it the preceding code number 12718592?

I take it that my VCDS system isn't able to decode UDS?
 
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I did and it did.
Is there any functional problem with the park assist, or are you just annoyed at a spurious fault code?

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Is there any functional problem with the park assist, or are you just annoyed at a spurious fault code?

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The function doesn't appear to work, so I'm not sure that it's spurious, but it is annoying.

Edit: The Parking Distance Warning button light is flashing too and to be clear, when I mention 'Parking Assist', I am referring to the audible and visual warnings given by the proximity sensors.

Edit 2: I now have the HEX-V2 inbound. That should help.
 
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ZAS = ZündAnlassSchloss (Ignition lock)
J527 = 16: Steering wheel
Thanks.
So, digging deeper into this, is ignition lock not something that is only particular to auto transmissions?
Mine is a manual box and wouldn't have the ignition lock, or is it something else? Why would the park assist feature be looking for a signal that shouldn't exist? This looks like a coding issue, but I cannot see what it might be just yet, either way, the park assist is currently not working and the flashing button indicates the same.
 
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Park Assist needs to know ignition key position, that is either a mechanical key type or keyless type. Information can be either hardwired or transmitted by communication line(s). This module right or wrong is looking for signal by comm lines.

If I would be you, I would be all other the Measuring Blocks and wiring diagram, to sort out how this information is received.

As well, why not post a blockmap and admap from this module?
 
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Park Assist needs to know ignition key position, that is either a mechanical key type or keyless type. Information can be either hardwired or transmitted by communication line(s). This module right or wrong is looking for signal by comm lines.

If I would be you, I would be all other the Measuring Blocks and wiring diagram, to sort out how this information is received.

As well, why not post a blockmap and admap from this module?
Thank you, that is useful to know. I have the wiring diagrams and will look deeper.
So, to clarify, the park assist system is looking for a communication from J527 (over the CAN bus) from a descrete signal from the ignition barrel, which, looking at the wiring diagram briefly, gives me 6 wires to check, aside from the VCDS signal function.
That narrows down the fault finding area, much appreciated.:thumbs:
 
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I've rescanned with the new interface, no surprises that there was no new info, but I've also taken a log of the advanced measuring values that I could find, related to any lock.

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Tuesday,08,April,2025,19:44:33:19169
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 25.3.0.4 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4660.4
Data version: 20250311 DS365.0
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VIN: WVGZZZ5NZCW051868   License Plate:
Mileage:    Repair Order: Steering Lock - Park Assist Fault



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                Address 16: Steering wheel  (1K5 953 521 CA)

19:44:19
  IDE02745-IDE00095   Ignition Switch Key Lock Solenoid-Status of selector lever lock not coded/not installed
  IDE02745-IDE00096   Ignition Switch Key Lock Solenoid-Selector lever position Not coded
  IDE02745-IDE02579   Ignition Switch Key Lock Solenoid-Park selector lever position not coded/not installed
  IDE02745-MAS02359   Ignition Switch Key Lock Solenoid-Signal transmission (alt bit) not coded/not installed
  IDE02745-MAS02364   Ignition Switch Key Lock Solenoid-Ignition key removal lock: activation not coded/not installed
  IDE02746-IDE00075   Enabling electric steering column lock-Vehicle speed not coded/not installed
  IDE02746   Enabling electric steering column lock Not coded
  IDE02746-MAS01468   Enabling electric steering column lock-Terminal 15 On
  IDE02746-MAS02108   Enabling electric steering column lock-Signal vehicle speed (alt bit) not coded/not installed
  IDE02746-MAS02359   Enabling electric steering column lock-Signal transmission (alt bit) not coded/not installed
 
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Is there a list of abbreviations available for reference, anywhere?
ZAS = ZündAnlassSchloss (Ignition lock)
J527 = 16: Steering wheel
 
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I see I was not explicit enough. Blockmap for park steering assist, module 10. Go for the bulls eye, where the issue is! Anything else at this time is waste of time.
 
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I see I was not explicit enough. Blockmap for park steering assist, module 10. Go for the bulls eye, where the issue is! Anything else at this time is waste of time.
Thank you for your help, I will take a look when I finish work and post back. :thumbs:
 
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Is there a list of abbreviations available for reference, anywhere?
Start [VCDS] > [Applications] > [VCDS Toolbox] > Write abbreviation > Enter
 
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