A8L W12 (D4) jerking under sudden acceleration

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Actually, I've changed my mind, always good to know the proper part numbers, I'll drop you a PM. Thankyou so much.
Info sent, hope it helps.

Did you try any of the driving/measurement tests I suggested?
 
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They may not be allowed to share it with the car's owner?
Many many moons ago, my dealer was willing to look up and share previous service history of my Phaeton, but I already had a pretty good relationship with them. I believe they could only look up warranty service history, if it was customer-pay at another dealer they wouldn't be able to look it up. But that's the best of my recollection from about fourteen years ago.
Thinking about it, how do I get a copy of all the work which Audi has done on the car? My local dealer tend to ignore requests like that.
If you're making this request via email/phone... don't. Make the request in person, preferably while having other service work done there. Don't know if you'll get any useful info, but it got some for me.
 
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Info sent, hope it helps.

Did you try any of the driving/measurement tests I suggested?
Thanks - just clearing my emails now, and have a meeting tonight so have limited time for this fun stuff (❁´◡`❁)
I intend to try the reversing test, it'll be interesting as the torque on the engine will be exactly the same as in forward drive, but the transmission will get opposite forces applied.
As for looking under the car while applying torque, I don't have any friends with a 4-post lift (I thought I did but it's very much a home-brew solution and not suitable for this application), otherwise it's all commercial garages.
 
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Many many moons ago, my dealer was willing to look up and share previous service history of my Phaeton, but I already had a pretty good relationship with them.
A good relationship with the dealer certainly can't hurt the cause. :thumbs:

However, there may be another complication here -- @horrgakx is in the UK. I don't know what the situation is with the importer there, but not very many years ago, I was informed that in Germany, there's no equivalent of VWoA's "paperless" system, where every (warranty?) service record is kept in a central database that any dealer can access. Unfortunately, I don't know anyone who works at a UK dealer who I can ask how they run things.

-Uwe-
 
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@jyoung8607 I did some recording through the interface and also managed to do a reverse test.

I found a nice quiet peice of road away from traffic, put it in reverse, and floored it. I think the gear ratio is the same as 2nd in forward so it didn't leap from a standstill but it pulled smoothly - there was no jerking or lurching at all. I repeated it 4 times and every time was glass smooth.
So what does this say about it?

Also, I recorded the MAF, RPM, Throttle and Speed. I couldn't find anything relating to voltage - @Uwe do you know if there's anything relating to voltage which I can record? I was using the tool under the OBD-II button.
Interestingly, the software seemed to crash (spinny blue circle cursor), I switched off the engine and the software reported "Too many communication errors". It did save the CSV file though, and I've shared it on Dropbox (this is the link).

The full scan I took before clearing the errors off and performing these tests is here; (when I did clear the errors, the Oxygen sensor fault didn't show up so it's definitely intermittent).
Code:
Thursday,12,June,2025,15:50:32:31183
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 25.3.1.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4671.5
Data version: 20250604 DS365.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ4H5FN0*****   License Plate:
Mileage: 122619km-76191mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 4H-AU64 (4H0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 08 09 0E 10 11 31 13 15 16 17 19 28 30 34 36
          3B 3C 42 44 46 47 48 52 53 55 56 57 5B 5F 62 69 6C 6D 6F 72
          81 84 85 88 89 8A 8B 8D 8E 8F 90

VIN: WAUZZZ4H5FN0*****   Mileage: 122619km-76191miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
11-Engine II -- Status: Malfunction 0010
31-Engine other -- Status: Malfunction 0010
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
30-Special Function II -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
3B-Sensor Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
48-Seat, Rear, DS -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
5B-Seat,Rear,PS -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
6F-Centr. Conv. II -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
81-Gear Shift -- Status: OK 0000
84-Night Vision -- Status: OK 0000
85-On Board Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
88-Multicont. Seat Driver -- Status: OK 0000
89-Multicont. Seat Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
8A-Multicont. Seat Rear,DS -- Status: OK 0000
8B-Adaptive Cruise 2 -- Status: OK 0000
8D-Multicont. Seat Rear,PS -- Status: OK 0000
8E-Image Processing -- Status: OK 0000
8F-Pretens. Frt Left -- Status: OK 0000
90-Pretens. Frt Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CTNA)       Labels:. 07P-906-023-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 07P 906 027 A    HW: 07P 907 309
   Component: W12 6.3 EU6   H22 8556
   Revision: 41H22000    CVN: 077AE0AA
   Coding: 002A0012256601000800
   Shop #: WSC 23485 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM63FSI11107P906027A 001011
   ROD: EV_ECM63FSI07P906027A.rod
   VCID: 303ECF06AAA4CF7A3F9-8064
   VINID: 9D196AAAA1181567800890472095894A27

2 Faults Found:
16672 - Please Check DTC Memory of ECU Number 2
          P1923 00 [00101111] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 122542 km
                    Date: 2025.06.06
                    Time: 18:50:17

                    Engine speed: 3272.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 71.4 %
                    Vehicle speed: 43 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 89  C
                    Intake air temperature: 33  C
                    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.099 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 0
                    Relative load value: 59.37 %
                    Engine torque: 483.5 Nm
                    Fuel level: 54.00 l
                    Oxygen sensor bank 1 sensor 1: specified value: 0.8989
                    Intake camshaft B1 active operating state: 1

19815 - Control Module for Exhaust Flap
          P14AB 00 [01100000] - Mechanical Malfunction
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 122553 km
                    Date: 2025.06.07
                    Time: 13:11:41

                    Engine speed: 1141.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 20.8 %
                    Vehicle speed: 32 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 95  C
                    Intake air temperature: 27  C
                    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.135 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 36
                    Relative load value: 15.94 %
                    Engine torque: 0.0 Nm
                    Fuel level: 52.00 l
                    Oxygen sensor bank 1 sensor 1: specified value: 3.4680
                    Intake camshaft B1 active operating state: 1

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0BK-927-156.clb
   Part No SW: 4H1 927 158 CG    HW: 0BK 927 156 AD
   Component: 0BK 63 FSIRdW H19 1004
   Revision: --H19---    CVN: 70C58982
   Coding: 000001
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMALX51011 002022
   ROD: EV_TCMALX51011_002_AU64.rod
   VCID: 77AC341A0F4AD842BE3-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 4H0-907-379.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 379 AA    HW: 4H0 907 379 AA
   Component: ESP PREMIUM   H10 0665
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: A2E5EBA045A7D705E300
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ESPPremi 005024
   ROD: EV_ESPPremi_005_AU64.rod
   VCID: 71B80A02612E8672707-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 FB    HW: 4H0 907 064 EB
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H36 0560
   Revision: 00002001  
   Coding: 05B76F4E000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 6E82117E7090998A6D5-803A

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4H0 905 852 C    HW: 4H0 905 852 C
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H40 0046
   Serial number: 3214000146951005  

No fault code found.

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass (J521)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 760 E    HW: 4H0 959 760 E
   Component: MEM-BFS       H08 0156
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000127663944
   Coding: C038B60085047201010001010101112131313333283333
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 3530FE125546EA526CF-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 4H0-820-043.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 820 043 P    HW: 4H0 820 043 P
   Component: Klima 4 Zonen H20 0210
   Coding: 4CE10BBEBC0000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiFront 003001
   ROD: EV_AirCondiFront_002.rod
   VCID: 2D00D672BD96A29214F-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 4H0-907-063-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 063 DB    HW: 4H0 907 063 AB
   Component: BCM1 2.0      H20 0311
   Revision: 19020001    Serial number: 00000950283401
   Coding: 0105801440349FE2C9014084A0001800009DC30A2F080201800008946100170000400009090000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 6B84186A43826CA24AB-803E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4H2 955 119 C    HW: 4H2 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS641 140603  H36 0090
   Serial number:         140618061852
   Coding: 0045F7

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 B    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
   Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0002
   Serial number: 23544642          
   Coding: 0200FF

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4H0 941 531 C    HW: 4H0 941 531 C
   Component: E1 - LDS  H07 0044
   Serial number: 21 02 2014  00001174

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 705 K    HW: 4H0 907 705 C
   Component: EVLS-SG  H08 0300
   Serial number: WA109401000010289539
   Coding: 020300

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658     HW: 4H0 907 658
   Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H03 0003
   Serial number: 92288167000000000001

No fault code found.

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Address 0E: Media Player 1 (R161)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4H0 035 108 F    HW: 4H0 035 108
   Component: DVDCAlpine    H42 0200
   Revision: AA001001  
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 2314304AEBD264E2B2B-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 4H0-919-475-7X5.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 919 475 G    HW: 4H0 919 475 E
   Component: PARKHILFE PLA H06 0070
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 56261434300122
   Coding: B93B07
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2CAU64X0000 001011
   ROD: EV_EPHVA2CAU64X0000_AU64.rod
   VCID: 3530FE1255C6EA526CF-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 11: Engine II (J624)       Labels:. 07P-906-023-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 07P 906 027 A    HW: 07P 907 309
   Component: W12 6.3 EU6   H22 8556
   Revision: 41H22000    CVN: 077AE0AA
   Coding: 002A0012256601000800
   Shop #: WSC 23485 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM63FSI21107P906027A 001011
   ROD: EV_ECM63FSI07P906027.rod
   VCID: 303ECF06AAA4CF7A3F9-8064

1 Fault Found:
24416 - Linear Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B3 S1; Pump Current Wire
          P3164 00 [11101101] - Open Circuit
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 9
                    Mileage: 122542 km
                    Date: 2025.06.06
                    Time: 18:50:16

                    Engine speed: 3127.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 98.8 %
                    Vehicle speed: 40 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 89  C
                    Intake air temperature: 30  C
                    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.651 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Engine torque: 670.2 Nm
                    Fuel level: 54.00 l
                    Intake camshaft B1 active operating state: 1


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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 4H0-907-561.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 561 C    HW: 4H0 907 561
   Component: ACC3          H21 0032
   Serial number: 00000000000000 Dataset Number: 4H0909863E  0037
   Coding: 7F04020201
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AdaptCruisContrAU64X 002024
   ROD: EV_AdaptCruisContrAU64X_002_AU64.rod
   VCID: 2B04D86A8382ACA20AB-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 4H0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 655 H    HW: 4H0 959 655 H
   Component: Airbag10.43   H82 0086
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003P1002BELY Dataset Number: 4H0909602J  0017
   Coding: 30333045313430303037554A305234483053
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaAU10BPAAU64X 001014
   ROD: EV_AirbaAU10BPAAU64X_VW51.rod
   VCID: 3B24E82A73E23C229AB-806E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 3575HRB40532OSCEAPD0

   Crash sensor for side airbag: passenger side:
   Serial number: 3585HRB40552QMKACPB3

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Serial number: 3515JRB405932I4ODG2%

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Serial number: 3525JRB405932I4OH82$

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 3554VRB405F34GNSF8D5

   Crash sensor for front airbag: passenger side:
   Serial number: 3564VRB405F34GNSF0D+

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 4H0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 953 568 H    HW: 4H0 953 568 H
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H04 0005
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 01335NKT0019U
   Coding: 0004FC
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 382EF7264254173A779-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4H0 951 528 A    HW: 4H0 951 528 A
   Component: E221 - MFL  H08 0010
   Serial number: 15 10 2014  C0042916

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 4H0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 4H0 920 850 R    HW: 4H0 920 850 R
   Component: TBenGB-ACCNV- H53 0707
   Revision: 37081202    Serial number: 658041214592070
   Coding: 338708001F552600010200
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RBD4K 004050
   ROD: EV_RBD4K_AU64.rod
   VCID: 3632F91E48C0E14A655-8062

   Analog_clock:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4H0 919 204 Q    HW: 4H0 919 204 Q
   Component: Analoguhr D4  H05 0225
   Serial number: 2141112000585     

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 4H0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 468 AF    HW: 4H0 907 468 AC
   Component: J533--Gateway H13 0075
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000001662604 Dataset Number: 4H0909515L  0087
   Coding: C0CD075C08
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   GVL: FFFFE85CFFE7E7FDC0000000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewPkoUDS 001024
   ROD: EV_GatewPkoUDS_001_AU57.rod
   VCID: 75B03E121546AA52ACF-8020

   Battery Monitoring Control Module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4H0 915 181 F    HW: 4H0 915 181 F
   Component: J367-BDM  H08 0181
   Serial number: 61323F46171911098926

   Voltage stabilizer:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 663 C    HW: 8K0 959 663 C
   Component: J532_DCDCStab  H05 0006
   Serial number: 14342000404021200410

No fault code found.

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Address 28: HVAC, Rear (E265)       Labels:| 4H0-919-158.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 919 158 K    HW: 4H0 919 158 K
   Component: Klima Fond    H17 0200
   Coding: 2800000000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiHeck 002001
   ROD: EV_AirCondiHeck_AU64.rod
   VCID: 382EF72642D4173A779-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 30: Special Function II (J843)       Labels: 8K0-907-440.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 440     HW: 4H0 907 440
   Component: STS           H06 0030
   Revision: S0H06000    Serial number: 00000000071746
   Coding: 01010101000000000001000102
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 64967356AE5C23DA0B1-8030

No fault code found.

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Address 34: Level Control (J197)       Labels:. 4G0-907-553.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 907 553 G    HW: 4G0 907 553 F
   Component: LUFE-DAEMPFER H19 0783
   Dataset Number: 4H0909553H  0038
   Coding: 008003
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirSuspe 003025
   ROD: EV_AirSuspe_003_AU64.rod
   VCID: 2F3CCC7AB79AD082263-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 760 E    HW: 4H0 959 760 E
   Component: MEM-FS        H08 0156
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000127663111
   Coding: C038BF8085857201030001010101112131313333203333
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 3530FE125546EA526CF-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 3B: Sensor Elect. (J849)       Labels: 4G0-907-637.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 637 K    HW: 4H0 907 637 F
   Component: SARA 6D       H04 0056
   Revision: --------    Serial number: EJ1BPA7702C3TB
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SARA2 005012
   ROD: EV_SARA2.rod
   VCID: 372CF41A4FCA18427E3-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change (J769)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-566.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 566 F    HW: 4H0 907 566 F
   Component: SWA Master    H06 0030
   Serial number: 0351694540 Dataset Number: 4H0909535D  0017
   Coding: 040312
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LaneChangAssis 001028
   ROD: EV_LaneChangAssis_VW52.rod
   VCID: 3334C00A5BB2F46242B-8066

   Lane change assistance control module 2:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 568 F    HW: 4H0 907 568 F
   Component: SWA Slave  H06 0030
   Serial number: 0352225009        
   Coding: 040312

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 4H0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 793 R    HW: 4H0 959 793 G
   Component: TSG FA        H07 0280
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000127890478
   Coding: 011F1E015E0162C202083017
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 48CE87E632B467BA079-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 4G0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 909 144 M    HW: 4G0 909 144 G
   Component: RCEPS         H40 0011
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 0002650065 Dataset Number: 4H0909852J  0023
   Coding: 101101010001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPS 009010
   ROD: EV_RCEPS_009.rod
   VCID: 3334C00A5BB2F46242B-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 4H0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 FB    HW: 4H0 907 064 EB
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H36 0560
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0354490037  
   Coding: 013B0E2280B93985FB30C7C40E0316470000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 6E82117E7090998A6D5-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4H0 951 177
   Component: DWA-Sensor  H01 0010

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4H0 959 591     HW: 4H0 959 591
   Component: J245 PS50.030  H08 0006
   Serial number:     WOO33926478   
   Coding: 901F00

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 133 A    HW: 4H0 907 133 A
   Component: J505-FSH  H06 0046
   Serial number: 00000000000000010606

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 4H0 947 135 G    HW: 4H0 947 135 G
   Component: Dachelektroni  H13 0080
   Serial number: A2014000000000829295
   Coding: 010000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 4H0 959 591 A    HW: 4H0 959 591 A
   Component: V252 PS014  H06 0005
   Serial number:     WOO10008DNJ   

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 3AA 962 243 D    HW: 3AA 962 243 D
   Component: GEB.F.Heckoef  H16 0811
   Serial number: 93351668          

3 Faults Found:
01403 - Glass-Break Sensors; Rear
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 204
                    Mileage: 122539 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2025.06.06
                    Time: 18:28:19

02615 - Fuel Tank Cap; Lock
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 204
                    Mileage: 122540 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2025.06.06
                    Time: 18:41:23

02616 - Fuel Tank Cap; Unlock
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 204
                    Mileage: 122540 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2025.06.06
                    Time: 18:44:14


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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4G1 035 223 A    HW: 4G1 035 223 A
   Component: BOSE-G3C7-ANC H02 0540
   Revision: CJ002700    Serial number: 00000000011986
   Coding: 030000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 1C660BB6D6AC5B1A731-8048

No fault code found.

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Address 48: Seat, Rear, DS (J876)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 860     HW: 4H0 959 860
   Component: MEM-FS-Fond   H06 0158
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000122570039
   Coding: 003892800000700D0A00392038193A2039203B3B202020
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 71B80A0261AE8672707-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 4H0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 792 G    HW: 4H0 959 792 G
   Component: TSG BF        H07 0280
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000126798159
   Coding: 011F1E015E0162C202083006
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 3C26EB36766C3B1A931-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (----)       Labels: 4H0-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 801 H    HW: 4H0 907 801 A
   Component: EPB-4         H04 0015
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000001294340 Dataset Number: 4H0909522D  0017
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001028
   ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_VW51.rod
   VCID: 2D00D672BD96A29214F-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:| 4H4-907-357-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 4H4 907 357 B    HW: 7P6 907 357 B
   Component: MxB-ECU       001 0049
   Revision: --------    Serial number: -------------- Dataset Number: 4H0909865C  0018
   Coding: 02F60220221B0200
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulAUDIMXBAU64X 004002
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulAUDIMXBAU64X_004_AU64.rod
   VCID: 3138CA02A1AEC672307-8064

   Left LED Headlamp Power Output Stage 1:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7PP 941 472 G    HW: 7PP 941 472 G  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LED LeiMo li.  H07 7540
   Coding: E00300

   Right LED Headlamp Power Output Stage 1:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7PP 941 472 G    HW: 7PP 941 472 G  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LED LeiMo re.  H07 7540
   Coding: E00300

   Power module 1 for left matrix headlamp:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4H0 941 329 A    HW: 4H0 941 329 A  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: MxB LeiMo li.  H03 0031
   Coding: E00300

   Power module 1 for right matrix headlamp:
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4H0 941 329 A    HW: 4H0 941 329 A  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: MxB LeiMo re.  H03 0031
   Coding: E00300

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels:. 4F0-035-0xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 035 061 S    HW: 4G0 035 061
   Component: Radio U DAB   H60 0154
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 109L50E7996311
   Coding: 010103010000000001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 2D00D672BD16A29214F-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 57: TV Tuner (R78)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4G0 919 129 C    HW: 4G0 919 129
   Component: NGTV-DVB      H04 0690
   Revision: R0043000    Serial number: 06801301739701
   Coding: 03000000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 2D00D672BD16A29214F-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 5B: Seat,Rear,PS (J877)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 860     HW: 4H0 959 860
   Component: MEM-BFS-Fond  H06 0158
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000122569710
   Coding: 003896800000700D0A00392038193A2039203B3B382020
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 71B80A0261AE8672707-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 035 654 E    HW: 4H0 035 670 T
   Component: H-BNT-EU      H48 1072
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 449L80E7500866
   Coding: 04010100000BF9EF7DB4C31600000003080001000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 280E276692F487BAE79-807C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 KL
   Component: EUR 2023  3600

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4F0 910 393 AH    HW: 4F0 862 393 E
   Component: BTHS  H25 0750
   Serial number: P14004026934      

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4H2 919 600 L    HW: 4H2 919 600
   Component: E380 BDT D4  H11 0110
   Serial number: 00000000180608    

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 G
   Component: CD-Database  5950

6 Faults Found:
03276 - Please Check Software Version Management
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 204
                    Mileage: 122539 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2025.06.06
                    Time: 18:28:24

             Freeze Frame:
                    Text: KBD_FD4,TPE,M,0,0,6                   

00658 - Control Head
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 19
                    Reset counter: 251
                    Mileage: 122539 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2025.06.06
                    Time: 18:37:36

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 11.80 V

02259 - Information Display and Control Head (Front) (J685)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 204
                    Mileage: 122539 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2025.06.06
                    Time: 18:28:25

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 11.50 V

01524 - Antenna for Telephone
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 210
                    Mileage: 122553 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2025.06.07
                    Time: 13:13:58

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 12.60 V

03623 - Invalid Security/Release Code
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 204
                    Mileage: 122539 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2025.06.06
                    Time: 18:28:23

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x0004
                    Hex Value: 0x0009
                    Count: 7

03787 - Rotation Mechanism for Display Module Front
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 204
                    Mileage: 122539 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2025.06.06
                    Time: 18:28:21

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 11.50 V


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 4H0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 795 D    HW: 4H0 959 795 D
   Component: TSG HL        H07 0280
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000128623205
   Coding: 010F1E01420062C202083006
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 3C26EB36766C3B1A931-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:| 4H0-907-383-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 383 N    HW: 4H0 907 383 L
   Component: Anhaenger     H20 0160
   Revision: 7A001003    Serial number: 0417008171
   Coding: 0100000202000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TrailFunctGener2Hella 001005
   ROD: EV_TrailFunctGener2Hella_VW26.rod
   VCID: 382EF72642D4173A779-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. (J928)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 428 D    HW: 7P6 907 441 F
   Component: TopView       H07 0330
   Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 82330JF0192857
   Coding: 020D000001000000010102000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_CamerSysteTopViewAUDI 008027
   ROD: EV_CamerSysteTopViewAUDI.rod
   VCID: 2E02D17EB090D98A2D5-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (----)       Labels:| 7N0-959-107.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 107 AC    HW: 4H0 959 107 AC
   Component: HDSG-Modul    H12 0049
   Revision: 10012001    Serial number: 344400055 Dataset Number: 4H0909541F  0008
   Coding: 021004C021
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DeckLidContrUnit 001032
   ROD: EV_DeckLidContrUnit.rod
   VCID: 6FBC0C7A771A9082663-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 6F: Centr. Conv. II (J773)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 412     HW: 4H0 907 412
   Component: ALM           H05 0004
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 000000171871 Dataset Number: 4F0000000__ U001
   Coding: 220000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Ambie 001008
   ROD: EV_Ambie.rod
   VCID: 6394704AABD224E2F2B-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 4H0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 795 D    HW: 4H0 959 795 D
   Component: TSG HR        H07 0280
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000128623206
   Coding: 010F1E01420062C202083006
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 3C26EB36766C3B1A931-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 81: Gear Shift (J587)       Labels: 3Y0-927-731.clb
   Part No SW: 4H2 927 731 A    HW: 4H2 927 731 A
   Component: GSM-RL        H09 0083
   Revision: 0R0D5015    Serial number: SN141104  0165
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GSM2x3Mono 001017
   ROD: EV_GSM2x3Mono_AU64.rod
   VCID: 2C06DB76868CAB9A031-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 84: Night Vision (J853)       Labels:| 4G0-907-547.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 907 547 A    HW: 4G0 907 547
   Component: NV-ECU-Gen3   H08 0107
   Serial number: 622352400201445
   Coding: 201100
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_NightVisioGen3AE4AU64X 001001
   ROD: EV_NightVisioGen3AE4AU64X_AU64.rod
   VCID: 2C06DB76868CAB9A031-8078

   Night vision system camera:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4G0 980 552     HW: 4G0 980 552
   Component: NV-CAM-Gen3  H03 0006
   Serial number: 623466500F1606000255

No fault code found.

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Address 85: On Board Cam. (J852)       Labels:| 7P6-907-217.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 217 F    HW: 4H0 907 217 A
   Component: DPC-SG        H27 0081
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 262130025421000 Dataset Number: 4H0909547F  0046
   Coding: EA160000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_OnBoardCamerDPC 001007
   ROD: EV_OnBoardCamerDPC.rod
   VCID: 2C06DB76868CAB9A031-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 88: Multicont. Seat Driver (J873)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 182 H    HW: 4H0 907 182 H
   Component: IVB           H07 0042
   Serial number: 00019307143601 Dataset Number: 4H0909880D  0019
   Coding: 776FF2
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_IVBDriveSideFrnt 001003
   ROD: EV_IVBDriveSideFrnt_AU64.rod
   VCID: 2F3CCC7AB79AD082263-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 89: Multicont. Seat Pass. (J872)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 182 H    HW: 4H0 907 182 H
   Component: IVB           H07 0042
   Serial number: 00019138111001 Dataset Number: 4H0909881D  0019
   Coding: 376FF2
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_IVBPasseSideFrnt 001003
   ROD: EV_IVBDriveSideFrnt_AU64.rod
   VCID: 2F3CCC7AB79AD082263-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 8A: Multicont. Seat Rear,DS (J875)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 182 G    HW: 4H0 907 182 G
   Component: IVB           H08 0042
   Serial number: 00019139006901 Dataset Number: 4H0909882D  0014
   Coding: 212F00
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_IVBDriveSideRear 001003
   ROD: EV_IVBDriveSideFrnt_AU64.rod
   VCID: 2E02D17EB090D98A2D5-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 8B: Adaptive Cruise 2 (J428)       Labels:| 4H0-907-561.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 541 C    HW: 4H0 907 541
   Component: ACC3          H21 0032
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 7F04020201
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AdaptCruisContr2AU64X 002021
   ROD: EV_AdaptCruisContr2AU64X_002_AU64.rod
   VCID: 29082262897EBEB2F87-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 8D: Multicont. Seat Rear,PS (J874)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 182 G    HW: 4H0 907 182 G
   Component: IVB           H08 0042
   Serial number: 00019139060601 Dataset Number: 4H0909883D  0014
   Coding: 212F00
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_IVBPasseSideRear 001003
   ROD: EV_IVBDriveSideFrnt_AU64.rod
   VCID: 2E02D17EB090D98A2D5-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 8E: Image Processing (J851)       Labels:| 4H0-907-107-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 107 H    HW: 4H0 907 107
   Component: BV-SG         H33 0090
   Serial number: 005000620112147 Dataset Number: 4H0909548K  0035
   Coding: 02C23B041111
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BC7 001001
   ROD: EV_BC7.rod
   VCID: 2C06DB76868CAB9A031-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 8F: Pretens. Frt Left (J854)       Labels: 4H0-980-94x-RGS.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 980 945 B    HW: 4H0 980 945 C
   Component: RGS-VL        H13 0080
   Dataset Number: 4H0909614C  0003
   Coding: 0066F609031F0376070308004240C2010000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RGS_L 002004
   ROD: EV_RGS_L.rod
   VCID: 3138CA02A1AEC672307-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 90: Pretens. Frt Right (J855)       Labels: 4H0-980-94x-RGS.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 980 946 B    HW: 4H0 980 946 C
   Component: RGS-VR        H13 0080
   Dataset Number: 4H0909615C  0003
   Coding: 0066F609031F0376070308004240C2010000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RGS_R 002004
   ROD: EV_RGS_R.rod
   VCID: 323AC50EA4A8FD6A49D-8066

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 03:52, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.0V)-----------
------------------------------12 Faults Found------------------------------
 
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@Uwe do you know if there's anything relating to voltage which I can record?
Sorry, I've lost track of what's going on here. Which voltage do you want to record? Battery voltage as seen by one of your ECUs?

Both should have:
IDE00019-ENG167462 -- Voltage terminal 30

If you're looking for something else, please tell me exactly what.

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This issue is still happening so I decided to record a static power-on test to see what happens. It's very clear and I'm 99% confident that I need new engine mounts, I've just ordered them and booked the car into the garage.
The question I have is around the gearbox mounts. I put my phone underneath the car to see if I could see any movement there but it's too cluttered and covered with panels to be able to see anything conclusively.

 
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Yeah, good test with important result. I'd be completely done troubleshooting anything else until that's sorted.
 
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I have my doubts that the issue is the mounts.
 
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I have my doubts that the issue is the mounts.
What do you propose? Loose/broken subframe bolts or bad subframe bushings? Guess that's possible, if the "resting" position was sagging and applying power lifted it back up. Either way, it'll be super obvious once the garage repeats that test on a lift.
 
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What do you propose? Loose/broken subframe bolts or bad subframe bushings? Guess that's possible, if the "resting" position was sagging and applying power lifted it back up. Either way, it'll be super obvious once the garage repeats that test on a lift.
I would be very surprised if the engine mounts were the cause for ignition cut because many other possible causes were not checked. I will say based on the video I would say the passenger side mount is fucked for sure. Always change them in pairs.
 
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Does the RH intake hose become disconnected from the MAF about three times during the video? Surely not but it appears that way to me.
 
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Does the RH intake hose become disconnected from the MAF about three times during the video? Surely not but it appears that way to me.
Yeh it pulls the pipe off. I don't expect they designed the air intakes to cope with that amount of movement.
 
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I think that could cause some issues like you're describing.
Now I'm invested in this thing... I want to know what new engine mounts and a sealed intake system do for it.
 
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I think that could cause some issues like you're describing.
Now I'm invested in this thing... I want to know what new engine mounts and a sealed intake system do for it.
Well I have new engine mounts ordered and the car booked in on the 8th September.
What is a "sealed intake system"? Some mod?
 
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Yeh it pulls the pipe off. I don't expect they designed the air intakes to cope with that amount of movement.
LOL that's amazing, nicely spotted @aaclark987!

Remember a couple months ago we talked about your storm of faults and how the entire chain of faults traced back to the MAF?

Code:
Address 01: Engine (J623-CTNA)       Labels:. 07P-906-023-V1.clb
5668 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70)
          P0101 00 [00100111] - Implausible Signal
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Date: 2025.04.02
                    Time: 09:09:32
                    Engine speed: 3893.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 96.9 %
                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.028 V

Case Study: P0101 due to intermittent near-total diversion of the incoming air path around the MAF

Mu2Vald.jpeg
 
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@horrgakx That was poor terminology. Sorry about that. By "sealed" I was meaning to say, when all the air intake system is sound and no longer allows extra air into the engine which is un-measured.
With that much engine movement, it is possible the engine ground strap is torn. I don't know that vehicle well enough to know where it would be located but it shouldn't be too hard to find. If it is torn, it might be the source of the voltage issues.

@jyoung8607, Exactly! I learned a good lesson with that. *edit* I thought you were referring to the issues I was dealing with. A cracked EGR pipe was at least part of the cause of some strange behavior. I'll leave it in here anyway.

For reference: this thread It is a bit of a read but jump to post #7 for the results.
 
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