MK7 virtual cluster retrofit question

801 · Mar 17, 2025

I know purchasing a shiny new one from VW is preferred, but $1200 is a lot of swallow. I've seen people swapping to used ones which are considerably less (I've seen as low as $500). I've read the cluster can only have miles increased to it would have to have less miles on it when purchased than the car. Has anyone done this? I'm assuming ODIS would be required for CP, cloning, and IMMO then VCDS for all the other coding. Any insight?

Here's an auto scan from 2 weeks ago (I'm not at home)

Code:

Friday,28,February,2025,20:31:09:41190
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 arm64(arm64 CPU)(VMWare)
VCDS Version 25.3.0.2 (arm64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4660.4
Data version: 20250228 DS364.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VW447AU6GM023920   License Plate:
Mileage: 152140km-94535mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 14 15 16 17 19 2B 32 42 44 47 52 55 5F 75
          A9

VIN: 3VW447AU6GM023920   Mileage: 152140km-94535miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
32-Differential Locks -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
75-Telematics -- Status: OK 0000
A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CXCB)       Labels:. 06K-907-425-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 906 259 D    HW: 06K 907 425 B
   Component: 2.0l R4 TFSI  H13 0002
   Revision: --H13---    CVN: 5E75E924
   Coding: 091D00124424002F1000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00060
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259D 001003
   ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0205G0906259D.rod
   VCID: 2F381BEDF797421226B-807B
   VINID: 0E69C4107465197740083242000181A378

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 0D9 300 020 J    HW: 02E 927 770 AQ
   Component: DQ250-6V MQB  H53 4902
   Revision: 06253104    Serial number: TFK01507291364 CVN: 0000EE8B
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00060
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
   VCID: 1C62DC219621C98A739-8049

1 Fault Found:
10763 - Starter Enable from Selector Lever Sensor System
          P1734 00 [00000010] - -
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-ESP-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 379 T    HW: 3Q0 907 379 C
   Component: ESC           H32 0393
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 52285000001036
   Coding: 01FA6BA15422096F0080020241C36880D62A9000408216B6004300D1C009
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 034033
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP_034_VW37.rod
   VCID: 4BC06F7D634F1E322A3-801F

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-435.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 435 A    HW: 5Q0 959 435
   Component: VWKESSYMQB    021 0604
   Revision: 00021000    Serial number: 0375865515 Dataset Number: V03935226DW 0001
   Coding: 030C0C
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB 002011
   ROD: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB_002_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3A2E3AB93CD597BA815-806F

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5GM 907 044 A    HW: 5GM 907 044 A
   Component: Climatronic   H03 1001
   Revision: 00001K01  
   Coding: 00020014200100000005000012111402
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 003018
   ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_003_VW37.rod
   VCID: 42DE42595405DF7AD95-8017

   Fresh air blower control module (front):

   A/C pressure/coolant temperature sensor:

   Air quality sensor:

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-MV1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 087 AA    HW: 5Q0 937 087 AA
   Component: BCM PQ37BOSCH 028 0162
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 86580408150376 Dataset Number: 5GM063v____ 0061
   Coding: 00111A464041A2E969E44000001407201800000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00150
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc 015002
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_015.rod
   VCID: 7AAEFAB97C5557BAC15-802F

   Wiper motor control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5GM 955 119     HW: 5GM 955 119   Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: WWS    150715  043 0581
   Serial number:         150928122341
   Coding: 0E4DDD

   Rain/Light Recognition Sensor:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 A    HW: 5Q0 955 547 A  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLHS  037 0059
   Serial number: S5Y15M08D05H10M53S07
   Coding: 90A8DD

   Sunroof control module:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5GD 959 591     HW: 5GD 959 591
   Component: J245 PS60.036  H06 0150
   Serial number: 03694800381503150622
   Coding: 181803

   Humidity sensor: interior:

No fault code found.

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Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250)       Labels: 5Q0-907-376.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 376 A    HW: 5Q0 907 376 A
   Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H16 0120
   Serial number: 30071541350619 Dataset Number: V03935209LD 0002
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DRCONTITEMIC 001019
   ROD: EV_DRCONTITEMIC_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3728238D0FC78AD27EB-8063

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 J    HW: 5Q0 959 655 J
   Component: AirbagVW20    010 0830
   Serial number: 003GCR02X4HS Dataset Number: 5GM003V____ 0046
   Coding: 8CCCFC00000000005000001AC24800000065
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002144
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
   VCID: 47C8534D7F27FA520EB-8013

   Seat occupied recognition passenger side:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 B    HW: 4M0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H11 0021
   Serial number: IBH0000000000039P5SU
   Coding: 303131

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 607 15
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887
   Serial number: 35700000000340F4751B
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Crash sensor for side airbag: passenger side:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 607 15
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887
   Serial number: 3580000000068C09651K
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 907 15
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149
   Serial number: 3510002A31B7E8E48229
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 907 15
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149
   Serial number: 35200029B1B7E8E142BJ
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 209 19
   Component: FrontSensor_D  005 6149
   Serial number: 3550001B2F20D052F0D6
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Crash sensor for front airbag: passenger side:
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 612 20
   Component: FrontSensor_P  004 6149
   Serial number: 356000126638A6B27583
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J524)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 953 569 A    HW: 5Q0 953 569 A
   Component: Lenks.Modul   075 0235
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 20180913400575
   Coding: 0410
   Shop #: WSC 34557 003 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001016
   ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB.rod
   VCID: 3C223CA136E1A98A939-8069

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 5G1 920 856 A    HW: 5G1 920 856 A
   Component: KOMBI         342 6420
   Coding: 0BAD091AB980CF0502086A001000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00219
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009046
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
   VCID: 2C020CE1C681390A039-8079

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AF    HW: 5Q0 907 530 M
   Component: GW MQB High   212 2223
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 18081510801186 Dataset Number: 5G0067V____ 2214
   Coding: 0101000830085900FB00022B9C0F00000001050000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07027
   GVL: 01503C5000000600400C10008000CC0000000000000000000000000000000000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewConti 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewConti_013_VW37.rod
   VCID: 75B4E985554B38C2AC7-8021

   Generator:

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 Q    HW: 5G0 959 442 Q  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H11 0103
   Serial number: 29160000919640076195
   Coding: 31FFFF

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5Q0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 905 861 A    HW: 5Q0 905 861 A
   Component: ELV-MQBA      H01 0120
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 15000177777008
   Coding: 5D00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07027
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMQB 004111
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMQB_004_VW37.rod
   VCID: 343214811EB161CA5B9-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 32: Differential Locks (J492)       Labels:| 0CQ-907-554-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 0CQ 907 554 E    HW: 0CQ 907 554 E
   Component: Quersperre    H52 8042
   Serial number: HA1-00014.07.15 Dataset Number: v1260x015G0 0000
   Coding: 0001
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LockElectHA1VW37X 001007
   ROD: EV_LockElectHA1VW37X.rod
   VCID: 47C8534D7F27FA520EB-8013

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 E    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
   Component: TSG FS        020 0041
   Serial number: 260815060500DI Dataset Number: V03935214VB 0007
   Coding: 003F13205000040000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT_VW37.rod
   VCID: 43D0475D4B1FD672D23-8017

   Rear Driver Side Door Control Module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 D    HW: 5Q4 959 811 D  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: Fond FHSG DRV  007 0002
   Serial number: 00000000000001871160
   Coding: 011000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 909 144 J    HW: 3Q0 909 144 H
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  505 5063
   Dataset Number: 5GM074V____ 0418
   Coding: 8102
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00060
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 012140
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_012_VW37.rod
   VCID: 392C25B539D39CA288F-806D

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:| 5Q0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 035 456     HW: 5Q0 035 456
   Component: MIB2_lite_amp H20 0110
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: VWZ8Z1FBA00NTFU Dataset Number: 5GM050v____ 0212
   Coding: 2200000000AAAAAA000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AMPMst12C1Gen2ALPI 001003
   ROD: EV_AMPMst12C1Gen2ALPI_VW37.rod
   VCID: 6D84C1E53D1BF002547-8039

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0041
   Serial number: 24061506050D5T Dataset Number: V03935214VC 0007
   Coding: 003F13205000040000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT_VW37.rod
   VCID: 42DE42595405DF7AD95-8017

   Rear Passenger Door Control Module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 D    HW: 5Q4 959 812 D  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: Fond FHSG PSG  007 0002
   Serial number: 00000000000001876615
   Coding: 091000

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:| 7P6-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 357 D    HW: 7P6 907 357 A
   Component: AFS-ECU       H07 0090
   Revision: --------    Serial number: -------------- Dataset Number: V03935205NP 0021
   Coding: 021203010B000400
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB 001120
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFS_VW37.rod
   VCID: 40DA48515A09CD6ACF1-8015

   Left Headlamp Power Output Stage:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329 E    HW: 3D0 941 329 E  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo links  H01 0002
   Coding: 2E0000

   Right Headlamp Power Output Stage:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329 E    HW: 3D0 941 329 E  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo rechts  H01 0002
   Coding: 2E0000

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 035 876 B    HW: 3Q0 035 876 B
   Component: MU-S-NS-US    851 0842
   Serial number:                Dataset Number: V03935262VW 0001
   Coding: 027300020000000051220002001808009F0003F401200405C6
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CDELP 001001
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CDELP_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3330179D1BBF66F2423-8067

   Display and control head 1 for information electronics:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G6 919 605 B    HW: 5G6 919 605 B
   Component: ABT_Std-2_Nav  H50 8130
   Serial number: VWZ6ZHT2851154    

   Data carrier:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5NA 919 866 BF    HW: -----------
   Component: NAR 2021  --- 1510
   Serial number: --------------------

1 Fault Found:
0020 - Tuner for Satellite Radio
          B11CF 53 [00001001] - Deactivated
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 187
                    Mileage: 151202 km
                    Date: 2025.02.18
                    Time: 10:46:31

                    Voltage terminal 30: 11.7 V
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Satellite radio antenna status: electrically OK
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Channel selection for satellite radio: 0
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Audio Signal: Not available
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Antenna current: 139 mA
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Reception quality: No_signal
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Satellite radio tuner: pre-activation status: 07
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Satellite radio tuner: pre-activation value: 07


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Address 75: Telematics (J949)       Labels:| 5QE-035-285.clb
   Part No SW: 5QE 035 285 A    HW: 5QE 035 285 A
   Component: OCULowMQBUS   007 0568
   Dataset Number: 561098V____ 0409
   Coding: 02730002C2823A017F1E06000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 07027
   ASAM Dataset: EV_OCULowMQB 001006
   ROD: EV_OCULowMQB_VW37.rod
   VCID: 43D0475D4B1FD672D23-8017

No fault code found.

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Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869)       Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 907 159     HW: 4H0 907 159 A
   Component: SAS-GEN 2     H06 0014
   Serial number: 150723200470
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
   ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X_003_VW37.rod
   VCID: 6B80CFFD030FFE324A3-803F

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:43, VBatt start/end: 12.6V/12.4V)-----------
------------------------------2 Faults Found-------------------------------

Uwe · Mar 17, 2025

801 said:
I've read the cluster can only have miles increased to it would have to have less miles on it when purchased than the car. Has anyone done this?

Mileage on a used cluster cannot be changed up or down using a scan-tool.

-Uwe-

downtime · Mar 17, 2025

Actually it can

with v1 VCDS and suitable program that ”drives” the car 300km/h. Takes a long time if you need to run more miles to the cluster but is doable.

I think there’s a solution in those notorious dashboard tools now for VCs as well. So no driving needed

Uwe · Mar 17, 2025

downtime said:
Actually it can with v1 VCDS and suitable program that ”drives” the car 300km/h.

Waxing pedantic here: The interface cable is not VCDS. VCDS is software. So no, you can't do it with VCDS.

-Uwe-

Cuzoe · Mar 17, 2025

I added something like 25k to my VC on the bench, using one of those "programs" mentioned. First I should say that my VC was new and the dealer installed it but they didn't really know what they were doing they didn't match my odometer. I finished the coding and adaptations at home but because I had cruise control selected I didn't see the odometer until the next time I had to fill up. And I had driven over 100 km so it could not be changed

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Anyway, these programs claim they will work with an older interface in dumb mode. I tried it with my HEX-CAN and never got it to work. It obviously didn't work with the HEX-V2. I ended up buying a knock off (please don't kill me @Uwe) interface and that did work.

You have to build a little bench set up that can't really be used for anything else... OBD port, cluster plug, power, ground and can bus. The program sends the wake up signal and then as mentioned by @downtime it simulates wheel speed sensor input. The program will read the current odometer and you can set the target. And anything more than about 300 kmh won't work for more than a couple hours but anything lower can run indefinitely to your target mileage.

The little dongle doesn't have any other modules connected so using it doesn't trigger component protection or cause any immo issues. You could do it the dumbest way possible like I did, while daily driving the car. I would pull the dash out (meaning disconnect, I wasn't clipping it back, left the trim uninstalled) when I got to work and let it run on a workbench all day. Connect to drive home, get home and take it out again and let it run overnight, repeat... For almost 2 weeks, lol.

downtime · Mar 18, 2025

Uwe said:
Waxing pedantic here: The interface cable is not VCDS. VCDS is software. So no, you can't do it with VCDS.

-Uwe-

Thanks for the clarification. Yes exactly. Older v1 interface works, let's leave VCDS out of this

I meant to put VCDS dongle but evening, using mobile to write a reply, not a good combination.

And the process goes exactly like @Cuzoe wrote. It is really slow process. I ran 80k kilometers and it took 1,5 weeks non-stop to run it. 300km/h is the max you can use reliably. That works no issues, anything higher will knock the system off at some point.

The biggest challenge is to get the approval for IMMO adaptation to used part. You cannot adapt the part anymore without approval from VW and if it gets accepted or not, you won't know until you try.

801 · Mar 20, 2025

downtime said:
The biggest challenge is to get the approval for IMMO adaptation to used part. You cannot adapt the part anymore without approval from VW and if it gets accepted or not, you won't know until you try.

SO I'm guessing my only option here would to just buy it and then have the dealer/shop submit for approval to VoA (and hope for the best)?

downtime · Mar 21, 2025

Yes, exactly like that.

MK7 virtual cluster retrofit question

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