coding a second hand ecu on mk5 gti

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Hi guys
Ive got a golf 5 gti with a faulty ecu..i have a second hand ecu i want to use but im having difficulty coding it...
I was able to retrieve the cars original pin aswell as the new (second hand) ecu pin! So i plug the new ecu in and go to engine...security access...security login....enter the new second hand ecu pin and it accepts login...next i go to adaptions and channel 50...i enter the original car pin and it accepts. ..so im under the impression it should then take that pin and change the new ecus vin to that of the car...but it doesnt...when i try to login again it says error 37 security wait time....what am i doing wrong?how do i read what the actual security wait time is? (No value indicating it in the ecu measuring blocks)..when i go to immobiliser and read security wait time there it says 0 for both cluster and ecu....could someone please give me a detailed explanation on how i do this..
Many thanx
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Please post an Auto-Scan from this car so people can see what it's made of.

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Damn il only be back at work on monday so il do it then...is the coding procedure not standard for this vehicle type tho? Immo4?
 
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Immo 4A or Immo4C - which one? :)
 
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Will post autoscan asap
 
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VCDS Version: Release 15.7.2 (x64) Running on Windows 7 x64
Data version: 20151124
www.Ross-Tech.com

Monday,14,December,2015,09:11:04:48700

Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72

VIN: AAVZZZ1KZ8U027768   Mileage: 106330km-66070miles

01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 R    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0020  
   Revision: 5BH16---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H23ND8T8
   Coding: 0403001018070160
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 356799535CFF4A9688-8060

1 Fault Found:
005476 - Throttle Actuator (J338) 
               P1564 - 002 - Under-Voltage during Basic Setting
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 106335 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:13:07

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 20.0°C
                    Temperature: 24.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 870.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 0.000 V

Readiness: 0110 0101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Revision: 00H11001    
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 73E3674B120B14A666-8026

4 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
01315 - Transmission Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 044 CQ    HW: 1K0 907 044 CQ
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 130 1212  
   Revision: 00130022    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 78F950670B6D77FE53-802C

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ    HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000008173634
   Coding: E78F8F2700041500471400001400000000097F075C000100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 71EF6D43681726B694-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 230408 020  0501  
   Coding: 00049109
   Shop #: WSC 00046  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AF  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RLS     290308 046  0204  
   Coding: 00208933
   Shop #: WSC 00046  

8 Faults Found:
02395 - Parking Light Front Right (M3) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01111100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 54
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.09.13
                    Time: 31:63:63

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 9.70 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01496 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Left (L22) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01111010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 54
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.09.13
                    Time: 31:63:63

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 9.60 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01500 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Right (L23) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01111010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 54
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.09.13
                    Time: 31:63:63

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 9.60 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 54
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.09.13
                    Time: 31:63:63

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 9.60 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 54
                    Mileage: 106335 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.09.13
                    Time: 31:63:63

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 7.20 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

02385 - Rain / Light Recognition Sensor Function Restricted due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 94
                    Mileage: 106335 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.09.13
                    Time: 31:63:63

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 11.95 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00154 - Windshield Wiper Motor;  Passenger Side (V217) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 94
                    Mileage: 106335 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.09.13
                    Time: 31:63:63

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 10.00 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

02383 - Windshield Wiper Motor Function Restricted due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 94
                    Mileage: 106335 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.09.13
                    Time: 31:63:63

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 10.00 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Component: 3A AIRBAG VW8   020 2300  
   Revision: 05020000    Serial number: 0038PD1RYJNO  
   Coding: 0013121
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 3D77817364CF92D640-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME2E45101CA

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME33710B142

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME53680B0DN

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME4C683273N

4 Faults Found:
00655 - Seat Belt Tensioner Igniter; Passenger Side (N154) 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - MIL ON
01589 - Igniter for Head-Airbag; Passenger Side (N252) 
            007 - Short to Ground - MIL ON
01218 - Side Airbag Igniter; Passenger Side (N200) 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - MIL ON
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BP    HW: 1K0 953 549 BP
   Component: J0527           752 0100  
   Coding: 0002022
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 010F3D8358B7363664-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           002 0010

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K6 920 874     HW: 1K6 920 874 
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 2216  
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H23ND8T8
   Coding: 0004103
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 70E96847631D2FBE9B-8024

2 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 55
                    Reset counter: 54
                    Mileage: 106335 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:46:41

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 94
                    Mileage: 106335 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:21


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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H15 0180  
   Revision:   H15       Serial number: 1400K082158149
   Coding: E9817F060002020003
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 3069A847A39D6FBEDB-8064

3 Faults Found:
01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 54
                    Mileage: 106335 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:13:32

01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 54
                    Mileage: 106335 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:13:33

01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 54
                    Mileage: 106335 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:13:37


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K6 920 874     HW: 1K6 920 874 
   Component: IMMO            VDD 2216  
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H23ND8T8
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 70E96847631D2FBE9B-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M    HW: 1K0 959 701 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1210  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 387990674BEDB7FE93-806C

1 Fault Found:
01811 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Drivers Side (J386) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.069 H08 1901  
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 36659E5F41F9418E81-8062

4 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 106320 km
                    Temperature: 37.0°C
                    Voltage: 12.00 V
                    Voltage: 11.80 V

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:

00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 106320 km
                    Temperature: 36.0°C
                    Voltage: 9.30 V
                    Voltage: 9.10 V

00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 106320 km
                    Temperature: 25.0°C
                    Voltage: 9.40 V
                    Voltage: 9.20 V


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0204  
   Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 199002005103087F2D040F0F70085FC690FC00
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 0303378B42AB242676-8056

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 A
   Component: Neigungssensor  003 0203

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 A
   Component: Innenraumueberw.003 0203

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M    HW: 1K0 959 702 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1210  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 397F956370E7AEF66C-806C

2 Faults Found:
01812 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Pass. Side (J387) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00929 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Passenger Side (F221) 
            008 - Implausible Signal

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 907 357 
   Component: Dynamische LWR      0003  
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 00000
   VCID: 74E164571705139E7F-8020

3 Faults Found:
00070 - Starting Battery Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
01534 - Control Circuit for Left Headlight Range Adjusting Motor (V48) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 K    HW: 1K0 959 703 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 1012544
   VCID: 387990674BEDB7FE93-806C

1 Fault Found:
01813 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Rear Left (J388) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 K    HW: 1K0 959 704 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00046 412 1012544
   VCID: 397F956370E7AEF66C-806C

3 Faults Found:
01814 - Supply Voltage for Door Controller; Rear Right (J389) 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00099 - Rear Right Central Locking (Safe) Motor (V164) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00931 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Right (F223) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:38)--------------------------
 
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this is the autoscan of my original ecu...will really appreciate help guys
 
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ECU and Cluster serials start with VWX, so it's Immo 4c, which is what I'd expect for a 2008 model year (from the VIN).

Maybe Jack or Jetta97 have some ideas how to proceed.

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On this car with system you have , It is not possible to do this with VCDS.
 
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I'm sure a new key is not possible, I have a fuzzy recollection that Jack had found a way to match an ECU...

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Calling Jack!
 
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