Flash failed, car wont start

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Hi friends,

yup, it happend. I tried up flash software update to my Audi A3 engine ECU. After aprox. 30 sec. odis e told me that I should turn the ignition off and on again, and the flash has failed. In the flash log is a german fault message "flashen der datenblocke fehlgeschlagen".

Below is autoscan AFTER the flash has failed. The engine will not start, and the cooling fan is running at full speed. Does anyone have any inputs, hints, things to try etc ? Or can explain why it happened ? Is the ECU toast, or will a dealer with a geko connection probably get it back to work ? I can log into the engine ECU with vcds, but most of the functions are greyed out.

Code:
Tuesday,08,December,2015,22:24:27:62006
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20151124
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ8P54A165042   License Plate: BR51499
Mileage: 168490km-104694mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 8P (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 18 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 55 56 76 7D

VIN: WAUZZZ8P54A165042   Mileage: 168490km-104694miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl
   Part No SW: 03G 906 016 G    HW: 028 101 136 4
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC         5705  
   Shop #: WSC 74565 000 00000
   VCID: 275754BD961F22060A-8072

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0103  
   Coding: 0023174
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 3A719DC975ADAFEE65-806E

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 E    HW: 8P0 820 043 E
   Component: KlimavollautomatH12 0150  
   Revision: 015231      Serial number: 8P0820043E    
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2E59A199B9E5734EC9-807A

2 Faults Found:
01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 222
                    Mileage: 168490 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.12.08
                    Time: 00:00:44

             Freeze Frame:

01207 - Control Module for Auxiliary Heater (J364) 
            013 - Check DTC Memory
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101101
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 222
                    Mileage: 168490 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.12.08
                    Time: 22:22:08

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8P0-907-279-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 A    HW: 8P0 907 279 A*
   Component: Bordnetz-SG 1.0 H30 0501  
   Revision: 00030000    Serial number: 00000000690970
   Coding: 030ACE0083140600000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 3B7F98CD7A9796E67E-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P1 955 119 C  Labels: 1TX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer WWS Audi350 0180  
   Coding: 16711696
   Shop #: WSC 12345  

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8P0-959-655-84.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 D    HW: 8P0 959 655 D
   Component: Airbag 8.4ED    H00 0140  
   Coding: 0010602
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 438FE02D0267EE2636-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 A    HW: 1K0 953 549 A
   Component: Lenks‰ulenmodul 012 0030  
   Coding: 0000042
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 3065BFE1A3D165BEDB-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY7.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 930 F    HW: 8P0 920 930 F
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H25 0140  
   Revision: D09         Serial number: 2243DD09053438
   Coding: 0004003
   Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
   VCID: 356B8EF55CB3409688-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-815-005.clb
   Part No: 1K0 815 005 EF
   Component: Heizgeraet      H08 0040  
   Revision:        A    Serial number: 09011596      
   Coding: 0001112
   Shop #: WSC 38059 136 84162
   VCID: 6AD16D89458DDF6ED5-803E

1 Fault Found:
02085 - Incorrect Control Module Installed 
            000 -  - 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 D    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Gateway         H08 0100  
   Revision: 08          Serial number: 2500104325011F
   Coding: 7D0F1F42070100
   Shop #: WSC 06435 123 12345
   VCID: 285557819B012D7E03-807C

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 222
                    Mileage: 168490 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.12.08
                    Time: 22:20:14


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 930 F    HW: 8P0 920 930 F
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H25 0140  
   Revision: D09         Serial number: AUX7Z0D3FN70K1
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 356B8EF55CB3409688-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN1.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 959 801 A
   Component: Tuersteuerger.  H10 0010  
   Coding: 0000048
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 397382C570ABA4F66C-806C

1 Fault Found:
00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 F
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.10      1301  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2E59A199B9E5734EC9-807A

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 8480 km
                    Temperature: 11.0∞C
                    Voltage: 12.20 V
                    Voltage: 12.00 V


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 959 433 B
   Component:    KSG          H02 0040  
   Coding: 188800186D288505484A016000
   Shop #: WSC 06435 123 12345
   VCID: 3B7F98CD7A9796E67E-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P3 035 382     HW: 8P3 035 382 
   Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH25 0160  
   Revision: 00003       Serial number: 10000001119925
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 70E57FE1635125BE9B-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 8P0-959-802-MIN1.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 959 802 A
   Component: Tuersteuerger.  H10 0010  
   Coding: 0000048
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 3A719DC975ADAFEE65-806E

1 Fault Found:
00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 907 357 A
   Component: Dynamische LWR  H01 0010  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 387587C14BA1BDFE93-806C

2 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 168488 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.12.08
                    Time: 22:20:14

01314 - Engine Control Module 
            008 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 168488 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2015.12.08
                    Time: 22:20:14


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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8P0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 035 186     HW: 8P0 035 186 
   Component: concert II EU   H53 0060  
   Revision:      08S    Serial number: AUZ2Z3D2056623
   Coding: 0001001
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 6FE77C9D7E6F3A4682-803A

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 8P0-919-283.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 919 283     HW: 8P0 919 283 
   Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H06 0020  
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
   VCID: 78F547C10B217DFE53-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 D    HW: 1K0 963 235 D
   Component: PTC-Element         0404  
   Revision: 00700000    Serial number:               
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2C5DAB918FF9015EE7-8078

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:44)--------------------------
 
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If you can talk to the ECU with VCDS (and it appears you can) then the processor is still booting up and running. I would take that as a good sign.

However, since we don't do flashing (at all) (and here's one of big reasons why), I don't have any advice what your next step would be.

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You have COM via k-line. Thats a good start. I also see this is EDC16U1 ECU, they just die...for some reason.

You could try another flash session.
 
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Are we sure...But if you say so.

I had similar dead Touran ECU once. When connected to ECU VCDS showed KWP2000. This is K-line right?

I guess it was this autoscan... not the one found from web:
Code:
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 016 CD HW: 028 101 194 5
Component: R4 1,9L EDC 6246
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 67DD49D9566B5626359-8032

No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
or a communication error occurred
 
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I have tried four more flash attempts, but still the same. After 13-30 sec. it stops and telling me to turn off and on ignition again.

I tried to flash software 9884, have also tried 7641. Maybe if someone has 5705 it will work ?

I disconnected the battey now and will let it stay overnight. Maybe that will help ?
 
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The ecu is stuck in what is known as 85 mode ( programming mode ), that is why the fans are switched on, because the ecu isn't telling the fan controller to pull up the relay.

Better get a battery charger on there and unplug the fan so you don't have to listen to it. ( Make sure when done to plug back in )

Flash it with the same version that was in there before or start over with what you have.

You may have a bad file or a file that isn't supposed to be for that ecu hardware level.

God loves back ups via BDM before doing such things.......

I can help fix this .........
 
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Are we sure...But if you say so.

I had similar dead Touran ECU once. When connected to ECU VCDS showed KWP2000. This is K-line right?

Code:
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 016 CD HW: 028 101 194 5
Component: R4 1,9L EDC 6246
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
VCID: 67DD49D9566B5626359-8032

No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
or a communication error occurred
Nope, that session was communicating via CAN as well. :)

-Uwe-
 
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To try over K-Line is one of the procedures from VAG, like for example in TPI 2010883/10
 
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Ok, so thats mean take the ECU out of the car, connect power and K line to my VAS5054 and try to flash again ? I also talked to a dealer here in norway which said that I could try to unplug the ABS module and the try to flash. The car has now been without power tonight, so I will try to flash again now.

Thanks for all suggestions.
 
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Hehe, ok, I did not now that was possible. Thanks again. Actually, now I have removed the ECU from the car (it only took about 20 min). So I will find the correct pins now, and hook it up.
Watch the newbie (with flashing) blow up his module :)
 
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And as we speak, the module is on my kitchen table, hooked up, and the flash has started ! :)
 
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Ahh, you want proof ? :)

Code:
Wednesday,09,December,2015,12:12:18:62006
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.2.0 (x64)
Data version: 20151124
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ8P54A165042   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 8P (1K0)

Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 18 19 25 42 44 46 47 52 55 56 76 7D



VIN: WAUZZZ8P54A165042   Mileage: 168490km-104694miles



00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000

03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000

08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000

09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000

15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000

16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000

17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000

18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000

19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000

25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000

42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000

44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000

46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000

47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000

52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000

55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000

56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000

76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000

7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000

 

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl

   Part No SW: 03G 906 016 G    HW: 028 101 136 4

   Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG  9884  

   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: AUX7Z0D3FN70K1

   Coding: 0000072

   Shop #: WSC 74565 000 00000

   VCID: 275754BD961F22060A-8072



No fault code found.

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 



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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl

   Part No: 1K0 907 379 K

   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0103  

   Coding: 0023174

   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000

   VCID: 3A719DC975ADAFEE65-806E



No fault code found.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl

   Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 E    HW: 8P0 820 043 E

   Component: KlimavollautomatH12 0150  

   Revision: 015231      Serial number: 8P0820043E    

   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

   VCID: 2E59A199B9E5734EC9-807A



No fault code found.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8P0-907-279-23-H.lbl

   Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 A    HW: 8P0 907 279 A*

   Component: Bordnetz-SG 1.0 H30 0501  

   Revision: 00030000    Serial number: 00000000690970

   Coding: 030ACE0083140600000000000000000000

   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345

   VCID: 3B7F98CD7A9796E67E-806E



   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P1 955 119 C  Labels: 1TX-955-119.CLB

   Component: Wischer WWS Audi350 0180  

   Coding: 16711696

   Shop #: WSC 12345  



No fault code found.



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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8P0-959-655-84.lbl

   Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 D    HW: 8P0 959 655 D

   Component: Airbag 8.4ED    H00 0140  

   Coding: 0010602

   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000

   VCID: 438FE02D0267EE2636-8016



No fault code found.



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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl

   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 A    HW: 1K0 953 549 A

   Component: Lenks‰ulenmodul 012 0030  

   Coding: 0000042

   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000

   VCID: 3065BFE1A3D165BEDB-8064



No fault code found.



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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY7.lbl

   Part No SW: 8P0 920 930 F    HW: 8P0 920 930 F

   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H25 0140  

   Revision: D09         Serial number: 2243DD09053438

   Coding: 0004003

   Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422

   VCID: 356B8EF55CB3409688-8060



No fault code found.



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-815-005.clb

   Part No: 1K0 815 005 EF

   Component: Heizgeraet      H08 0040  

   Revision:        A    Serial number: 09011596      

   Coding: 0001112

   Shop #: WSC 38059 136 84162

   VCID: 6AD16D89458DDF6ED5-803E



No fault code found.



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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V1.clb

   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 D    HW: 1K0 907 951 

   Component: Gateway         H08 0100  

   Revision: 08          Serial number: 2500104325011F

   Coding: 7D0F1F42070100

   Shop #: WSC 06435 123 12345

   VCID: 285557819B012D7E03-807C



No fault code found.



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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb

   Part No SW: 8P0 920 930 F    HW: 8P0 920 930 F

   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H25 0140  

   Revision: D09         Serial number: AUX7Z0D3FN70K1

   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

   VCID: 356B8EF55CB3409688-8060



No fault code found.



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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN1.lbl

   Part No: 8P0 959 801 A

   Component: Tuersteuerger.  H10 0010  

   Coding: 0000048

   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000

   VCID: 397382C570ABA4F66C-806C



No fault code found.



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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb

   Part No: 1K1 909 144 F

   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.10      1301  

   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

   VCID: 2E59A199B9E5734EC9-807A



No fault code found.



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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl

   Part No: 8P0 959 433 B

   Component:    KSG          H02 0040  

   Coding: 188800186D288505484A016000

   Shop #: WSC 06435 123 12345

   VCID: 3B7F98CD7A9796E67E-806E



   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     



   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     



   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     



No fault code found.



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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl

   Part No SW: 8P3 035 382     HW: 8P3 035 382 

   Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH25 0160  

   Revision: 00003       Serial number: 10000001119925

   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

   VCID: 70E57FE1635125BE9B-8024



No fault code found.



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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 8P0-959-802-MIN1.lbl

   Part No: 8P0 959 802 A

   Component: Tuersteuerger.  H10 0010  

   Coding: 0000048

   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000

   VCID: 3A719DC975ADAFEE65-806E



No fault code found.



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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl

   Part No: 8P0 907 357 A

   Component: Dynamische LWR  H01 0010  

   Revision: 00000000    Serial number:               

   Coding: 0000001

   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000

   VCID: 387587C14BA1BDFE93-806C



No fault code found.



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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8P0-035-1xx-56.lbl

   Part No SW: 8P0 035 186     HW: 8P0 035 186 

   Component: concert II EU   H53 0060  

   Revision:      08S    Serial number: AUZ2Z3D2056623

   Coding: 0001001

   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000

   VCID: 6FE77C9D7E6F3A4682-803A



No fault code found.



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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 8P0-919-283.lbl

   Part No SW: 8P0 919 283     HW: 8P0 919 283 

   Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H06 0020  

   Coding: 0000003

   Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000

   VCID: 78F547C10B217DFE53-802C



No fault code found.



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Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl

   Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 D    HW: 1K0 963 235 D

   Component: PTC-Element         0404  

   Revision: 00700000    Serial number:               

   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

   VCID: 2C5DAB918FF9015EE7-8078



No fault code found.



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Nope, that session was communicating via CAN as well. :)

-Uwe-

And now when the smoke has started to clear, and the fire is out. I want to learn even more: how did you see that this session was communcation over CAN Uwe ?

What I experienced today, was that on the ECU connector I had in spare (taken from a scrapyard car some months ago when I installed CC), had NOT the k-line wire connected. There was NO wire at pin T94/72, and the hole for the plug was blocked by this black "things" that are installed in all the connector holes which is not in use. I did NOT check if the K-line was connected on my car, but maybe they have not connected the ECU K-line pin to the diagnostic port on these cars ?
 
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Uwe has told, that there is some sort of way to see K-line or CAN, but he won't discuss it. It was said last time.
 
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Hmm, ok, wonder why ? Then there is only one way to find out, I have to take two logs from several modules, one with only k-line, and one with CAN bus active, and then compare them :)
 
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Uwe has told, that there is some sort of way to see K-line or CAN, but he won't discuss it. It was said last time.

Nope......not that you didn't say it, however, I call BS that Uwe wouldn't discuss it, or cover something up.

Hmm, ok, wonder why ? Then there is only one way to find out, I have to take two logs from several modules, one with only k-line, and one with CAN bus active, and then compare them
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Ahhh WD........ and scan seeing the gateway list verse no gateway list.........aren't both your scans with gateway list?



It is no secret and Uwe wasn't failing to discuss it...........that's a conspiracy theory I can't be a party to......... because it's bullshit!

Uwe just referenced what he sees and the platform it should of supported ......as you said there was no wire on K in the car....that's your fault for not checking WD.

You can also observe the communication layer you are in......... in the left upper corner of VCDS such as CAN KWP 2000 KW1281, KW2089 TP 1.6 or 2.0 and UDS etc....High or low speed selectable bauds........some flash tools support baud select change as does VCDS in blocks for TURBO MODE.

What was happening was probably the fan, low voltage in general......... RF noise such as cell phone or other clutter on the CAN was interrupting the flash session.

The ecu diagnostic stack supports both K and Can communication in these EDC16 ecu's .........some cars use the K line and some use the CAN.......... and some both!

It would of flashed fine on CAN or K line......... if the connections, and the tool were in proper order on the bench ........shit it was already in 85 mode.

K-line is used by most......... because in flash mode, it flashes faster on baud, for the tools out there in the industry.

Security access is your biggest enemy...........and that you have automatically, because you are stuck in it when in flash mode.

Glad it worked out.............

FACT!
The real story is......... that if the tools out there supported the flash speeds on the CAN, like the real OEM tools, the communication on CAN is far faster!
 
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