2017 caddy highline fitting a MFSW.

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DomPryor

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Looking for help get a MK6 golf MFSW to work on a 2017 caddy highline. The van already has MF stalks 1k5.953.502T, with a 5k0.953.569.BB squib.
The new MFSW wheel number is 3C8.419091BEE74 with 3C8.959 538 G buttons.
The vans wiring looks to using a 12v and ground for the horn with the new wheel using Canbus to operate the horn wired to the buttons.
Try to read up looks like I need to change the squib to 5k0 953 549b to get the canbus to control the horn? Then change the settings with VCDS?
Will I have to change the stalks for ones with out the MFA controls or can I just turn these off?
Thanks in advance for any help
 
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Code:
Tuesday,07,January,2025,19:30:34:26300
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 24.7.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4643.4
Data version: 20240715 DS356.3
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VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZHX097992   License Plate:


Chassis Type: 2K-VN35 (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 5F 61

VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZHX097992   Mileage: 263870km-163961miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-DFSD)       Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04L 906 016 GT    HW: 04L 907 309 K
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H20 4648 
   Revision: 8AH20---    CVN: BCEEEF18AF135584
   Coding: 0111001204250D090000
   Shop #: WSC 00384 210 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906016GT 004004
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906016GR_004.rod
   VCID: 015E7EED418F61C250D-8054
   VINID: 9E606AAAA09BA98A0024724908D0A99565

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 7E0-907-37x-MK100ESC.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 907 379 P    HW: 7E0 907 379 M
   Component: ESC           H06 0133 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 40087000000128
   Coding: 1479409B926BA485287E027F498425E3790000
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESCCONTIVN75XGP2 011001
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESCCONTIVN75XGP2_011.rod
   VCID: 3FDAB81577FBD732669-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 907 426 AT    HW: 1K8 907 426 AT
   Component: AC Manuell    H21 0909 
   Revision: 00001002   
   Coding: 0010004003
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X A01010
   ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 05566AFD55A74DE26C5-8050

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 AA    HW: 5K0 937 086 AA
   Component: BCM PQ35 M+   122 0184 
   Revision: BD122001   
   Coding: 491A583E8025E16B08880082940001640351000842228260648087000041
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00142
   VCID: 73B224250BB34352521-8026

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 2K2 955 119 D  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 22121  26  0512
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 C  Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS 221216 04  42  0106
   Coding: 0228DD

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 7N0 951 172
   Component: Sensor, DWA 0  005 0502
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 F
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H01 0008
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-283.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 919 465 A    HW: 5Q0 919 283
   Component: PARKHILFE 4K  H10 0480 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 39261700401755
   Coding: 0001050001
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14VW364GP00 001007
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14VW364GP00_VW36.rod
   VCID: 372AD0355FCBEF72AE9-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 2K5 959 655 B    HW: 2K5 959 655 B
   Component: VW10Airbag00K H08 0018 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003V1002ES81 Dataset Number: 2KC003V__A_ 0765
   Coding: 00000000000000000000000000000000304B
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001028
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
   VCID: 3B22CC0563E3CB124A1-806E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 3497ARB404P46P7SDGVJ

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Serial number: 3507ARB405D4738IQ9C0

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 CL    HW: 5K0 953 569 BB
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   018 0230 
   Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20161222101032
   Coding: 4080160010
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C 001001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C.rod
   VCID: 79AE160D295F390218D-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 2K5 920 976 E    HW: 2K5 920 976 E
   Component: KOMBI         H03 1104 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 410A001200
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05733
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3828D30952D5E00AA73-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 BJ    HW: 7N0 907 530 AL
   Component: J533  Gateway H58 1682 
   Revision:   H58       Serial number: 101216F1002323
   Coding: 357431
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00142
   VCID: 79AE160D29DF390218D-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H03 1104 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW23.rod
   VCID: 6A8C39415CF9829AE17-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 2K5 959 701     HW: 2K5 959 701
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2144 
   Coding: 0131632
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00142
   VCID: 71BE2E2D7DAF7142A0D-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 140    3501 
   Revision: 00H22000   
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00142
   VCID: 392ED60D655FF90258D-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 2K5 959 702     HW: 2K5 959 702
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2144 
   Coding: 0131632
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00142
   VCID: 72BC212178A94A5A597-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 035 680 E    HW: 5C0 035 680 E
   Component: MU-S-ND-ER    H31 0359 
   Serial number: VWZAZ2T5015194 Dataset Number: V03935249AS 0001
   Coding: 063307013C00000011111101008808001F0100C600200100CF
   Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW32.rod
   VCID: 23121465FB5393D2621-8076

   Data carrier:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3G0 919 866 AQ    HW: -----------
   Component: ECE1 2017  --- 0730
   Serial number: --------------------

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 7N0 907 530 AL
   Component: Batt.regelung H58 1682 
   Serial number: 101216F1002323
   Coding: 030F7873
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00142
   VCID: 71BE2E2D71AF7142A0D-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 2K0 915 181     HW: 2K0 915 181
   Component: J367-BDMConti  H03 1050
   Serial number: 75410603001701063396

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:10, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.8V. VIgn 11.9V)-----
 
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The original wheel had a brown wire and a blue grey with a simple switch contact. Brown pin has continuity to be grounded and the pin for the blue/grey wire has plus 12v.
I the MFSW has a different wire colours with one core going to the horn contact but no brown wire. I cant make out the colours on my pictures, but one of the cores goes up to the steering wheel switch plug and then comes back down to the horn contact. So I took it the new wheels wiring is looking for a signal that isn't a dead short? so thought it might be the squib not being compatible as this is where the connections go back to, but the two looms used the same pins.


The cars not mine so can't quickly check anything.
 
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The new MFSW wheel number is 3C8.419091BEE74 with 3C8.959 538 G buttons.
It might be easier to install the correct MFSW for this vehicle. This has the MQB-style wheel from factory. For example, 6C0419091BNE74.
 
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