MK60EC1 ABS Coding Required and advice. Golf 1.4 TSI BMY

[cristo_844]

That ECU doesn't use the SKC PIN,

Yes it uses PIN...

 

[Uwe]

but he did manage to pick door lock and cut 2 blanks that work. Would like to think he knew what he was doing??

Knowing how to pick a lock and cut keys that work mechanically is a completely different skill than knowing the nuances of VAG clusters/immobilizers.

-Uwe-

 

[ZINX77]

So Locksmith states that there was no eeprom data to read when he attempted it, said somebody must have messed with it previously, which they haven't Only thing done to car previously was ABS pump was replaced and recoded successfully with the original coding which I sadly do not have due to Laptop replacement. Have checked all my files and I did not save it anywhere
From my limited understanding of I was to source a replacement custer I should be able to do a cluster swap as I have the ECU PIN(confirmed working)which is the same as the cluster PIN?
Then get a Locksmith who knows how to code keys properly to have another go. I appreciate no-one is likely to want to touch it after all this

If not is there somebody on here local to South Bristol who can help us out? Or guide me through this minefield?
Just looking for next best route to go down

Knowing how to pick a lock and cut keys that work mechanically is a completely different skill than knowing the nuances of VAG clusters/immobilizers

Just like so called engineers I work with who do not know how to wire a 3 pin plug

Really appreciate everyone's input

 

[cristo_844]

Before the locksmith did you have the immobilizer light in the cluster?
You can't adapt new cluster only it the pin and VCDS

 

[ZINX77]

Before the locksmith did you have the immobilizer light in the cluster?
You can't adapt new cluster only it the pin and VCDS

Not as a warning. Guess would have been there when ignition was switched on until car recognised key

Thanks christo_844 for your responses

Locksmith was the first to power car up, as had been sat for a while. No one was with the locksmith when he did the keys so unsure what clocks were displaying when powered up.

 

[ZINX77]

Can anyone suggest what my options are to get a working cluster in the car so I can sort ABS coding.
Bit stuck as locksmith is saying cluster was in service mode when he cut the keys.
Only thing I can think is because battery was flat for so long when power was attached to the car there was a voltage surge which ruined the cluster.

 

[cristo_844]

I can solve it but the problem is the distance

 

[ZINX77]

So update on this

Have had the Immobilizer removed car starts and runs a treat.

Son had a photo of the original ABS coding all along
It is
133B400D09230003C81402E9901F00803000

But keep getting error 31: request out of range. I'm guessing this is down to cluster still being in service mode? Is there any way of getting the coding to accept?

I'm at the point of just pushing it into a lake somewhere

 

[iichel]

The original abs code is linked to the vin in the cluster and ecu among other things. So its probably not as easy as putting it back. You need to get the cluster out of service mode.

 

[cristo_844]

So update on this

Have had the Immobilizer removed car starts and runs a treat.

Son had a photo of the original ABS coding all along
It is
133B400D09230003C81402E9901F00803000

But keep getting error 31: request out of range. I'm guessing this is down to cluster still being in service mode? Is there any way of getting the coding to accept?

I'm at the point of just pushing it into a lake somewhere

The cluster dosent have serial number and vin...that's i the conding is not accepted!

This is a proper cluster Advance ID

 

[ZINX77]

The cluster dosent have serial number and vin...that's i the conging is not accepted!

This is a proper cluster Advance ID

Thought so.
So could someone with the correct tool could reflash the eeprom so that it is no longer in service mode??
I would then be able to code the ABS pump?

 

[cristo_844]

yes it's possible, the problem is you don't have the original eeprom file an by the looks of it neither the locksmith!

 

[cristo_844]

just simulated in a cluster on the bench whats apaning it yours!



this is whats missing in yours...



same cluster from the photo in the previous post
no Advance ID and no Vin

 

[ZINX77]

just simulated in a cluster on the bench whats apaning it yours!



this is whats missing in yours...



same cluster from the photo in the previous post
no Advance ID and no Vin

Thanks for that cristo. So if I was to buy an equivelent lockset ECU and cluster, fit it in the car. I should then be able to get a working and coding??. Are there any other modules that hold the vin which would cause conflict?

 

[cristo_844]

Yes...Also need to buy the keys!
Vin is only in the ECU,Cluster and ABS pump...

 

[ZINX77]

Yes...Also need to buy the keys!
Vin is only in the ECU,Cluster and ABS pump...

Thanks for confirming, have found a matching ECU, cluster and locks with key, so will get son to buy it. Will just change the blade in the key so won't need to change locks or ignition barrel. Should then be able to code pump.
Only issue will be milage I presume?

 

[ZINX77]

Donor ECU and clocks fitted. Still cant code the pump with the coding I have, keep getting error 31 request out of range

Advanced immo ID

Saturday,28,December,2024,14:00:28:00711
VCDS Version: Release 24.7.1 (x64)
                Address 25: Immobilizer
Control Module Part Number: 1K0 920 964 A
  Component and/or Version: IMMO            3HL 1212
           Software Coding:
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00000
                      VCID: 2B5F2AE18A07F7CE4E-807E

Advanced Identification
     Serial number: VWX7Z0G924U1FG
     Identification: 3HL-004
     Revision: V0002000
     Date: 30.10.07
     Test stand number: 9491
     Manufacturer number: 1852
Flash Status
     Programming Attempts: 0
     Successful Attempts: 0
     Programming Status: 00000000
     Required Conditions: 00000000
     Flash Tool Code: 00000 000 00000
     Flash Date: --.--.--
Software
     DKBI339
     Y012
     Z0012
Misc.
     Hardware number: 1K0 920 964 A
     Lot Number: 000
     Type Lock: 0000
Car Info
     Chassis Number: WVWZZZ1KZ8M084843
VCDS Info:
       VCID: 2B5F2AE18A07F7CE4E-807E
       Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb

Advance ECU ID

Saturday,28,December,2024,14:09:46:00711
VCDS Version: Release 24.7.1 (x64)
                Address 01: Engine
Control Module Part Number: 03C 906 032 Q
  Component and/or Version: MED17.5.1       G   1729
           Software Coding: 0000072
            Work Shop Code: WSC 00066
                      VCID: 2B5F2AE18A07F7CE4E-807E

Advanced Identification
     Serial number: VWX7Z0G924U1FG
     Identification: BPG-810
     Revision: 96H07---
     Date: 23.08.07
     Test stand number: 1312
     Manufacturer number: 0178
Flash Status
     Programming Attempts: 1
     Successful Attempts: 1
     Programming Status: 00000000
     Required Conditions: 00000001
     Flash Tool Code: 36923 666 98765
     Flash Date: 00.00.00
Software
     P0000
     A00.000
Misc.
     Hardware number: 03C 906 032 C
Car Info
     Chassis Number: WVWZZZ1KZ8M084843
VCDS Info:
       VCID: 2B5F2AE18A07F7CE4E-807E
       Labels: 03C-906-032-BLG.lbl
       Readiness: No script available

Advanced ABS ID

  VCID: 7EF9D3B5E9F5B266B9-802A

Advanced Identification
     Identification: TT1-000
     Revision: 00H45001
     Date: 03.07.09
     Manufacturer number: 0302
     Test stand number: 007B
Flash Status
     Programming Attempts(application): 0
     Successful Attempts(application): 0
     Programming Status: 00000000
     Flash Date: 2009.07.18
     Flash Tool Code: 00000 000 00000
Misc.
     Hardware number: 1K0 907 379 AN
     Workshop System Name: -----
VCDS Info:
       VCID: 7EF9D3B5E9F5B266B9-802A
       Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb

Anybody able to help me out with a code or tell me where I'm going wrong?

Thanks

 

[cristo_844]

Coding needs to be adjusted to the new Vin

 

[ZINX77]

Coding needs to be adjusted to the new Vin

Thanks Cristo. Just went on carprogonline and got a working coding.
Just need to get milage adjusted, car has lost 20k miles.

Thanks for everyone's help.

 

[Boki Ar]

@ZINX77,

Would you post new, fresh, Auto Scan, please.

My calculation is: 133B400D092A00FEC81302E8901C00803000