Many thanks for the suggestions and responses. I will work on this and also down load the wiring diagram from ERWIN for the stop start switch when i can sort how to do it. I am still concerned about a voltage reading from terminal 2 at the push/start button! if i can get some clarification on this i feel it will put me in a good direction. 9.66v seems so wrong. once again thanks for the input so far, really appreciate it.