2017 VW Tiguan no start

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mal

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Hi i currently have a 2016 VW Tiguan (push button start) The customer experienced a no start issue and a click from the steering column area and the steering angle light came on. The steering lock is also on and wont release.
The vehicle will open and close with the remote but getting no ignition lights when start button is pushed. Rear brakes are also locked on and will not disengage when the electric hand brake button is pressed. I also have no headlights,tail lights etc. it seems the car has shut down completely. I have carried out a scan and will attach. stop/start button has been replaced by another workshop. Any assistance would be apprectiated.

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uesday,15,October,2024,12:10:18:14984
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 24.7.1.0 (x64) HEX-NET CB: 0.4643.4
Data version: 20240919 DS356.3
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVGZZZ5NZHW323076 License Plate: DJS57V
Mileage: 102130km-63460mi Repair Order: Tiguan



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Chassis Type: 5N-VW37 (5Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 19 22 2B 36 42 44 52 5F 6C
6D A5 CA

VIN: WVGZZZ5NZHW323076 Mileage: 102130km-63460miles

01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
15-Airbags -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
17-Instruments -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
22-AWD -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
CA-Sunroof -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
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Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

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Address 02: Auto Trans
Cannot be reached

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Address 03: ABS Brakes
Cannot be reached

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.
Cannot be reached

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Address 08: Auto HVAC
Cannot be reached

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.
Cannot be reached
Unable to communicate with address 09. Are you sure the doors are unlocked?

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist
Cannot be reached

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg
Cannot be reached

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Address 15: Airbags
Cannot be reached

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Address 16: Steering wheel
Cannot be reached

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Address 17: Instruments
Cannot be reached

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AM HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
Component: GW MQB High 128 1265
Revision: -------- Serial number: 0005099428 Dataset Number: V03935239XY 0001
Coding: 030500343F085900FB0722481E0F00010001050000000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 13160 004 1048576
GVL: 01D43C0008000600409C80000002C80010000000000000000000000000000000
ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 013020
ROD: EV_GatewLear_013.rod
VCID: 7CB40D38F7D1EF7697-8028

Generator:

Battery Monitoring Control Module:

3 Faults Found:
131619 - Control Module for Rear Lid Electronics
U1047 00 [00001000] - No Communication
[Timeout Knoten 0x23 / 6D - Steuergerät für Heckdeckelelektronik]
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 123
Mileage: 102130 km
Date: 2024.09.20
Time: 00:15:10

Terminal 30 power supply: 13.3 V
Terminal 15: OFF

131634 - No Communications with Control Module for Access/Start Authorization
U100A 00 [00001000] - -
[Timeout Knoten 0x32 / B7 - Zugang- und Startberechtigung]
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 123
Mileage: 102130 km
Date: 2024.09.19
Time: 21:48:57

Terminal 30 power supply: 13.3 V
Terminal 15: OFF

131702 - No Communication with Engine Control Module (SAE ECM/PCM)
U0100 00 [00001000] - -
[Timeout Knoten 0x76 / 01 - Motorsteuergerät]
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 123
Mileage: 102130 km
Date: 2024.09.19
Time: 22:11:39

Terminal 30 power supply: 13.5 V
Terminal 15: OFF


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Address 22: AWD
Cannot be reached

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock
Cannot be reached

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr
Cannot be reached

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver
Cannot be reached

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Address 44: Steering Assist
Cannot be reached

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.
Cannot be reached

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Address 5F: Information Electr.
Cannot be reached

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.
Cannot be reached

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect.
Cannot be reached

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Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist
Cannot be reached

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Address CA: Sunroof
Cannot be reached

End----(Elapsed Time: 00:53, VBatt start/end: 12.3V/12.3V. VIgn 0.0V)------
 
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Not powering on. Unusual to see even 05 -- Acc/Start Auth not responding. I think you're going to need to chase this with wiring diagrams and a multimeter.

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Mal, you need to troubleshoot where the voltage disappears. Your scan shows the car/ignition is not ON.
 
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Hi, I Have an update on the Tiguan..
This vehicle came from another workshop and was presented with the interior pulled apart.
On further inspection i found the steering lock connector on the steering column disconnected
After connecting this, the steering lock started to engage and disengage after a few cycles of trying to release it prompted to move the steering wheel to which i did, also the steering angle warning light illuminates. Still no ignition lights though!
After multiple attempts to start i did get the vehicle started. I turned off and restarted multiple times with success although sometimes it took 2 to 4 pushes of the start button (start button did have a replacement one in the car). not sure if it was a new one or a test one! When i returned later that afternoon to hopefully start the car to bring into my shop.
I'm back with a not start (ignition not powering up) and the steering lock constantly going thru a lock and unlock sequences before it prompts to move the steering wheel and steering angle light on.
This condition is what the owner originally had and started with a intermittently issue.
They would go to start the vehicle and the steering wheel waring light would prompt on the Dash and a clicking noise heard from inside the cabin near the steering ( steering lock trying to release).
When the push button is pressed the right on the key Fob does blink.
I'm assuming why my Scan wont work with VCDS is i cannot get and ignition to activate
Could this be a faulty ignition lock or KEYLESS module issue maybe.
Hoping someone has experienced something similar. If not where would i start and if any one can lead me in the right direction for test procedures and values or share something they might have.
Many thanks in advance. Mal
 
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This condition is what the owner originally had and started with a intermittently issue.


I think I would at least get a Auto-Scan (while it is running) when it "decides" to start up again! Sounds like a module is checking-out. Any water ingress?? Rodent damage??
 
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Hi was able to do a full scan on the VW Tiguan i currently have in my shop.
Just a recap! The vehicle when open with the remote and when door is closed. The steering lock mechanism in the steering column starts to activate trying to release but after multiple attempts to release it stops and a warning comes up on the instrument cluster of a yellow steering wheel and the message reads "move steering wheel" No Ignition lights come on DASH. scan below and hopefully someone can assist. Many Thanks

Code:
Tuesday,19,November,2024,13:28:54:14984
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 24.7.1.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4643.4
Data version: 20240919 DS356.3
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVGZZZ5NZHW323076   License Plate:


Chassis Type: 5N-VW37 (5Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 19 22 2B 36 42 44 52 5F 6C
          6D A5 CA

VIN: WVGZZZ5NZHW323076   Mileage: 102130km-63460miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
15-Airbags -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
22-AWD -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: Malfunction 0010
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
CA-Sunroof -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels:. 0BH-927-711.clb
   Part No SW: 0DL 300 011 L    HW: 0DE 927 711
   Component: GSG DQ500     H12 1411 
   Revision: 00H12V32   
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ500021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ500021_001_VW36.rod
   VCID: 312AEC0C6013D21E74-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 614 517 BJ    HW: 5Q0 614 517 AG
   Component: ESC           H62 0636 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 91676000011282
   Coding: 0AEE939A54221B6F4777670762C94950C92AD8E2E646927D30425038C22A02
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 035019
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_035_VW37.rod
   VCID: 7AB80B20FDE5D14685-802E

5 Faults Found:
0297 - Steering Angle Sensor
          B1168 F2 [00001000] - Not Initialized
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.10.11
                    Time: 21:58:23

4203 - Front Left ABS Wheel Speed Sensor
          C101A F1 [00001000] - Magnetic Field too Low
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.10.10
                    Time: 17:46:58

16401 - Tire Pressure Warning
          C102D 00 [00001001] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.10.11
                    Time: 21:58:22

16412 - Display for Tire Pressure Monitoring
          C1146 02 [00001000] - Signal Failure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.10.11
                    Time: 22:05:11

16413 - Display for Tire Pressure Monitoring
          C1146 02 [00001000] - Signal Failure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.10.11
                    Time: 22:05:11


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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-435.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 959 435 E    HW: 3Q0 959 435 E
   Component: VWKESSYMQB    036 0811 
   Revision: 00036000    Serial number: 0409614524 Dataset Number: V03935243RV 0001
   Coding: 032C2C0F0F
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB 004039
   ROD: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB.rod
   VCID: 3C34CD38B7512F76D7-8068

   Rear lid opener control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3G0 962 243 A    HW: 3G0 962 243 A
   Component: GEB.F.Heckoef  H17 0903
   Serial number: 98045479           

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (E87)       Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5NA 907 044 K    HW: 5NA 907 044 K
   Component: AC Automat    H35 4003 
   Revision: 20K08000    Serial number: 00000B00173914
   Coding: 0012002420010000110510001210142A
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaPrehVW37X 002014
   ROD: EV_ACClimaPrehVW37X_002_VW37.rod
   VCID: 47DEA2D4FE977CAE4A-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 5Q0-937-08X-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 CG    HW: 5Q0 937 084 CG
   Component: BCM MQBAB H   H34 0236 
   Serial number: 02001619401578 Dataset Number: V03935243DS 0001
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMMQB 017001
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_017.rod
   VCID: 7F4EFA34E6C7F46EB2-802A

   Wiper motor control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5NC 955 119     HW: 5NC 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: 326 RL 160622  033 0372
   Serial number: 00000001606200305755
   Coding: 0E4DDD

   Rain/Light Recognition Sensor:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 A    HW: 5Q0 955 547 A  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLHS  037 0059
   Serial number: S5Y16M07D07H16M53S09
   Coding: 00A8DD

11 Faults Found:
132363 - Voltage Supply; Terminal 30; Left
          B140D 13 [00001000] - Open Circuit
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.09.20
                    Time: 00:15:16

                    Terminal 15 status: OFF
                    Terminal 50 status: OFF
                    CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): OFF
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): OFF
                    OFF: Not operated
                    Position lamps: Not operated
                    Automatic high beam assist: Not operated
                    Low beam: Not operated
                    Parking light left: Not operated
                    Parking light right: Not operated
                    last_wakeup: no cause for fault protection
                    Voltage: 13.5 V
                    Outside temperature: 21.5 °C

132619 - Voltage Supply; Terminal 30; Right
          B140E 13 [00001000] - Open Circuit
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.09.20
                    Time: 00:15:21

                    Terminal 15 status: OFF
                    Terminal 50 status: OFF
                    CAN-Bus_aktiv: OFF
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): OFF
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): OFF
                    OFF: Not operated
                    Position lamps: Not operated
                    Automatic high beam assist: Not operated
                    Low beam: Not operated
                    Parking light left: Not operated
                    Parking light right: Not operated
                    last_wakeup: no cause for fault protection
                    Voltage: 13.5 V
                    Outside temperature: 21.5 °C

133131 - Voltage Supply Terminal 30
          B1423 13 [00001000] - Open Circuit
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.09.20
                    Time: 00:15:21

                    Terminal 15 status: OFF
                    Terminal 50 status: OFF
                    CAN-Bus_aktiv: OFF
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): OFF
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): OFF
                    OFF: Not operated
                    Position lamps: Not operated
                    Automatic high beam assist: Not operated
                    Low beam: Not operated
                    Parking light left: Not operated
                    Parking light right: Not operated
                    last_wakeup: no cause for fault protection
                    Voltage: 13.5 V
                    Outside temperature: 21.5 °C

204546 - Remote key 2
          B147A 18 [00001001] - Current Too Low
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.10.18
                    Time: 08:41:42

                    Terminal 15 status: OFF
                    Terminal 50 status: OFF
                    CAN-Bus_aktiv: OFF
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): OFF
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): OFF
                    OFF: operated
                    Position lamps: Not operated
                    Automatic high beam assist: Not operated
                    Low beam: Not operated
                    Parking light left: Not operated
                    Parking light right: Not operated
                    last_wakeup: no cause for fault protection
                    Voltage: 11.9 V
                    Outside temperature: 17.0 °C

395273 - Control Circuit for Signal Horn
          B1344 14 [00001000] - Open or Short to Ground
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.09.20
                    Time: 00:13:16

                    Terminal 15 status: OFF
                    Terminal 50 status: OFF
                    CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): OFF
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): OFF
                    OFF: Not operated
                    Position lamps: Not operated
                    Automatic high beam assist: Not operated
                    Low beam: Not operated
                    Parking light left: Not operated
                    Parking light right: Not operated
                    last_wakeup: no cause for fault protection
                    Voltage: 13.5 V
                    Outside temperature: 21.5 °C

460041 - Heated Rear Window
          B1265 14 [00001000] - Open or Short to Ground
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.09.20
                    Time: 00:14:56

                    Terminal 15 status: OFF
                    Terminal 50 status: OFF
                    CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): OFF
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): OFF
                    OFF: Not operated
                    Position lamps: Not operated
                    Automatic high beam assist: Not operated
                    Low beam: Not operated
                    Parking light left: Not operated
                    Parking light right: Not operated
                    last_wakeup: no cause for fault protection
                    Voltage: 13.5 V
                    Outside temperature: 21.5 °C

533013 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001000] - Missing Message
          [ELV_01 Datenbus fehlende Botschaft]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.09.20
                    Time: 00:20:58

                    Terminal 15 status: OFF
                    Terminal 50 status: OFF
                    CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): OFF
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): OFF
                    OFF: Not operated
                    Position lamps: Not operated
                    Automatic high beam assist: Not operated
                    Low beam: Not operated
                    Parking light left: Not operated
                    Parking light right: Not operated
                    last_wakeup: no cause for fault protection
                    Voltage: 12.4 V
                    Outside temperature: 25.5 °C

536853 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001000] - Missing Message
          [HDSG_01 Datenbus fehlende Botschaft]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.09.20
                    Time: 00:15:07

                    Terminal 15 status: OFF
                    Terminal 50 status: OFF
                    CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): OFF
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): OFF
                    OFF: Not operated
                    Position lamps: Not operated
                    Automatic high beam assist: Not operated
                    Low beam: Not operated
                    Parking light left: Not operated
                    Parking light right: Not operated
                    last_wakeup: no cause for fault protection
                    Voltage: 13.5 V
                    Outside temperature: 21.5 °C

538389 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001000] - Missing Message
          [Kessy_04 Datenbus fehlende Botschaftz]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 8
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.09.19
                    Time: 21:48:55

                    Terminal 15 status: OFF
                    Terminal 50 status: OFF
                    CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): OFF
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): OFF
                    OFF: Not operated
                    Position lamps: Not operated
                    Automatic high beam assist: Not operated
                    Low beam: Not operated
                    Parking light left: Not operated
                    Parking light right: Not operated
                    last_wakeup: no cause for fault protection
                    Voltage: 13.5 V
                    Outside temperature: 21.5 °C

919560 - Light Switch
          B126A 29 [00001000] - Signal Implausible
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.09.19
                    Time: 21:33:53

                    Terminal 15 status: OFF
                    Terminal 50 status: OFF
                    CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): OFF
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): OFF
                    OFF: Not operated
                    Position lamps: Not operated
                    Automatic high beam assist: Not operated
                    Low beam: Not operated
                    Parking light left: Not operated
                    Parking light right: Not operated
                    last_wakeup: no cause for fault protection
                    Voltage: 13.5 V
                    Outside temperature: 21.0 °C

15360256 - Component Protection
          U1101 00 [00001000] - Active
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.09.19
                    Time: 21:33:53

                    Terminal 15 status: OFF
                    Terminal 50 status: OFF
                    CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): OFF
                    Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): OFF
                    OFF: Not operated
                    Position lamps: Not operated
                    Automatic high beam assist: Not operated
                    Low beam: Not operated
                    Parking light left: Not operated
                    Parking light right: Not operated
                    last_wakeup: no cause for fault protection
                    Voltage: 13.5 V
                    Outside temperature: 21.0 °C


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel (J524)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 953 521 DM    HW: 5Q0 953 569 A
   Component: Lenks.Modul   075 0235 
   Revision: FF035035    Serial number: 20160705501120
   Coding: 0C10
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001015
   ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB.rod
   VCID: 7EB00730E1CDFD66B9-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 5NA 920 750 A    HW: 5NA 920 750 A
   Component: KOMBI         307 8311 
   Coding: 27A400186380000801886B031401000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009051
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
   VCID: 3C34CD38B7512F76D7-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AM    HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
   Component: GW MQB High   128 1265 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0005099428 Dataset Number: V03935239XY 0001
   Coding: 030500343F085900FB0722481E0F00010001050000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 13160 004 1048576
   GVL: 01D43C0008000600409C80000002C80010000000000000000000000000000000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewLear_013.rod
   VCID: 7CB40D38F7D1EF7697-8028

   Generator:

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5TA 959 442 A    HW: 5TA 959 442 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H06 0023
   Serial number: 1901614251001677AO2B
   Coding: 280000

   Battery Monitoring Control Module:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5QA 915 181 D    HW: 5QA 915 181 D
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H10 9070
   Serial number: 0428070904         

1 Fault Found:
131634 - No Communications with Control Module for Access/Start Authorization
          U100A 00 [00001000] - -
          [Timeout Knoten 0x32 / B7 - Zugang- und Startberechtigung]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.11.06
                    Time: 08:33:09

                    Terminal 30 power supply: 11.5 V
                    Terminal 15: OFF


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Address 22: AWD
Cannot be reached

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:| 1EA-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 905 861     HW: 3Q0 905 861
   Component: ELV-MQBB      H05 0032 
   Serial number: 16000144298009
   Coding: 0800000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMQBB 001007
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMQBB_VW37.rod
   VCID: 71AA2C0CA093921E34-8024

2 Faults Found:
12666378 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001000] - Missing Message
          [Timeout Message Klemmen_Steuerung_01]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.11.06
                    Time: 08:33:11

                    Result lock conditions: valid
                    ESCL locked: No
                    ESCL unlocked: No
                    Lock sensor: Not operated
                    Unlock sensor: Not operated
                    Error mode 1: not active
                    Error mode 2: not active
                    Clamp S: OFF
                    Clamp 15: OFF
                    Clamp 15 Status: valid
                    Remote Start: not active
                    Driver door: closed
                    Central locking locked external: unlocked
                    Central locking safed external: Vehicle not secured
                    Clamp Request: Yes
                    Request highside lock: No
                    HW highside lock: OFF
                    Highside unlock: No
                    Motor break: not active
                    Activation lowside unlock: OFF
                    Activation lowside lock: OFF
                    I2C overflow: No
                    I2C error pathflags: No
                    I2C resetinfo: No
                    I2C error cpu: No
                    I2C error rom: No
                    I2C error ram: No
                    I2C length failure: No
                    I2C error sda: No
                    I2C communication failure: i2c no comm failure
                    I2C state esp 10: i2c cnd false
                    I2C cnd haco message: valid
                    Coco reset: No
                    Coco supply: On
                    Password IMS OK: Yes
                    Signature IMS OK: Yes
                    IMS responded: Yes
                    Positive authentification in current KL15 cycle: Yes
                    Lifestate: Immobilizer download obtained
                    Authentication valid (T1): No
                    State of authentication state machine: WFS_AUTH_INIT_e
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    UBat internal: 11.0 V
                    UMotorBridge: 6.0 V
                    Lock condition engine speed: Condition met
                    Lock condition clamp S: Condition met
                    Lock condition clamp 15: Condition met
                    Lock condition E2E clamp status: Condition met
                    Lock condition timeout clamp status: Condition met
                    Lock condition vehicle speed: Condition met
                    Lock condition E2E vehicle speed: Condition met
                    Lock condition timeout vehicle speed: Condition met
                    Lock condition Mode1: Condition met
                    Lock condition drive readiness: Condition met
                    Lock condition selector lever position parking: Condition met
                    Clamp enable ESCL: not enabled
                    Lock condition timeout distance pulse: Condition met
                    Lock condition E2E distance pulse: Condition met
                    Lock condition difference distance pulse: Condition met

13634048 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001000] - Missing Message
          [Timeout Message Kessy_04]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 123
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.11.06
                    Time: 08:33:08

                    Result lock conditions: valid
                    ESCL locked: No
                    ESCL unlocked: No
                    Lock sensor: Not operated
                    Unlock sensor: Not operated
                    Error mode 1: not active
                    Error mode 2: not active
                    Clamp S: OFF
                    Clamp 15: OFF
                    Clamp 15 Status: valid
                    Remote Start: not active
                    Driver door: closed
                    Central locking locked external: unlocked
                    Central locking safed external: Vehicle not secured
                    Clamp Request: Yes
                    Request highside lock: No
                    HW highside lock: OFF
                    Highside unlock: No
                    Motor break: not active
                    Activation lowside unlock: OFF
                    Activation lowside lock: OFF
                    I2C overflow: No
                    I2C error pathflags: No
                    I2C resetinfo: No
                    I2C error cpu: No
                    I2C error rom: No
                    I2C error ram: No
                    I2C length failure: No
                    I2C error sda: No
                    I2C communication failure: i2c no comm failure
                    I2C state esp 10: i2c cnd false
                    I2C cnd haco message: valid
                    Coco reset: No
                    Coco supply: On
                    Password IMS OK: Yes
                    Signature IMS OK: Yes
                    IMS responded: Yes
                    Positive authentification in current KL15 cycle: Yes
                    Lifestate: Immobilizer download obtained
                    Authentication valid (T1): Yes
                    State of authentication state machine: WFS_AUTH_INIT_e
                    Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                    UBat internal: 11.0 V
                    UMotorBridge: 6.0 V
                    Lock condition engine speed: Condition met
                    Lock condition clamp S: Condition met
                    Lock condition clamp 15: Condition met
                    Lock condition E2E clamp status: Condition met
                    Lock condition timeout clamp status: Condition met
                    Lock condition vehicle speed: Condition met
                    Lock condition E2E vehicle speed: Condition met
                    Lock condition timeout vehicle speed: Condition met
                    Lock condition Mode1: Condition met
                    Lock condition drive readiness: Condition met
                    Lock condition selector lever position parking: Condition met
                    Clamp enable ESCL: not enabled
                    Lock condition timeout distance pulse: Condition met
                    Lock condition E2E distance pulse: Condition met
                    Lock condition difference distance pulse: Condition met


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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J810)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 760 B    HW: 5Q0 959 760 B
   Component: Sitzmemory    H08 0020 
   Serial number: Y0006PG510806
   Coding: 0014000000000500018281818181000000008181000000F400
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SeatMemorDriveSide 002021
   ROD: EV_SeatMemorDriveSide.rod
   VCID: 3C34CD38B7512F76D7-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 E    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
   Component: TSG FS        020 0041 
   Serial number: 210616EFL11674 Dataset Number: V03935236MK 0001
   Coding: 00311B20D201040000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO.rod
   VCID: 43C6B6C4CAAF508E96-8016

   Rear Driver Side Door Control Module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 812 A    HW: 5Q0 959 812 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: FOND_FHSG_DRV  005 0005
   Serial number: 00000000000010808336
   Coding: 0D0000

2 Faults Found:
458809 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001001] - Missing Message
          [Systeminfo_01 Datenbus fehlende Botschaft]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.09.20
                    Time: 00:18:49

458803 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001001] - Missing Message
          [Motor_14 Datenbus fehlende Botschaft]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.09.20
                    Time: 00:18:49


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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 T    HW: 5Q0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  128 1072 
   Dataset Number: V03935244JH 0001
   Coding: 9307
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 013144
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_013.rod
   VCID: 45C2A8DCC49B6EBEB8-8010

1 Fault Found:
16275 - Steering Angle Sensor
          B1168 F2 [00001001] - Not Initialized
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.08.11
                    Time: 00:01:28

                    Motor status: 00
                    System status: Waiting for start request
                    Supply voltage: 11.50 V
                    Temperature: 21.0 °C
                    KFC: 3F
                    KFA: 00 93
                    Freeze frame conditions: 5F
                    uAdSensI_U1V2Filtered_gdu16: 1.20 V
                    uAdSensI_U5VFiltered_xdu16: 0.00000 V
                    uioUdNotFilt_xdu16: 11.59 V
                    uAdSensI_SwitchedKl30_xdu16: 11.59 V
                    NoInitCause_AsicSens: [0x12] ASC_CTRL_SAS_PERIOD_ERR - SASPERIOD content lost after last ignition off
                    NoInitCause_RackPos_Rohwert: 01 80
                    RP_VALCNTSAV: activated
                    RP_DIAGJOB: not activated
                    RP_RPS: not activated
                    RP_KMN_RACKPOS_SET: not activated
                    RP_STARTUP: not activated
                    RP_L2PLAUSI: not activated
                    RP_INDEXPLAUSI: not activated
                    RP_WHLSPDPLAUSI: not activated
                    RP_RUKUCNTR: not activated
                    RP_UNDERVOLT: not activated
                    RP_CNTERR: activated


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0041 
   Serial number: 180616EFI1399A Dataset Number: V03935238QV 0001
   Coding: 00311120DE01040000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO.rod
   VCID: 42C8B3C0D5B559869D-8016

   Rear Passenger Door Control Module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811 A    HW: 5Q0 959 811 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG  005 0005
   Serial number: 00000000000010710470
   Coding: 050000

2 Faults Found:
458809 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001001] - Missing Message
          [Systeminfo_01 Datenbus fehlende Botschaft]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.09.20
                    Time: 00:18:49

458803 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001001] - Missing Message
          [Motor_14 Datenbus fehlende Botschaft]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 102130 km
                    Date: 2024.09.20
                    Time: 00:18:49


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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 035 846 A    HW: 3Q0 035 846 A
   Component: MU-S-N-ER     840 0743 
   Serial number:                Dataset Number: V03935241AV 0001
   Coding: 02730608FF00000051510001000808001F0100C601200102C7
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CDELP 001001
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CDELP_VW26.rod
   VCID: 2F2EEA747627C4EE62-807A

   Display and control head 1 for information electronics:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 606     HW: 5G0 919 606
   Component: ABT_High  H63 0032
   Serial number: VWZ8Z9SKL01ZJN     

   Data carrier:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3G0 919 866 AA    HW: -----------
   Component: MRM2 2016/17  --- 0635
   Serial number: --------------------

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. (J772)       Labels:| 5Q0-980-556.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 980 556     HW: 5Q0 980 556
   Component: RVC Compact   H09 0170 
   Dataset Number: V03935242F  0001
   Coding: 0123060122002017000040
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_CamSysRVRVCPANAMQBAB 005007
   ROD: EV_CamSysRVRVCPANAMQBAB_005_VW37.rod
   VCID: 77BE1214CEF7CC2EFA-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-107.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 107 C    HW: 5Q0 959 107 C
   Component: HDSG-Modul    H12 0260 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 30721951400000 Dataset Number: V03935243WN 0001
   Coding: 0A28
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736 001013
   ROD: EV_DeckLidCONTIAU736_VW37.rod
   VCID: 383CD1288369035633-806C

No fault code found.

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Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist
Cannot be reached

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Address CA: Sunroof (J245)       Labels:| 4M0-907-594.clb
   Part No SW: 4M0 907 594 D    HW: 4M0 907 594
   Component: SAD_STG_1     011 0003 
   Dataset Number: V03935232JH 0001
   Coding: 108040732602
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SunRoofCONTIAU736 004008
   ROD: EV_SunRoofCONTIAU736_004.rod
   VCID: 373ED2148E770C2E3A-8062

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:49, VBatt start/end: 13.2V/13.1V. VIgn 0.1V)------
 
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Thread was titled "2015 VW Tiguan no start".
i currently have a 2016 VW Tiguan (push button start)
VIN WVGZZZ5NZHW323076 indicates this is a 2017. I've adjusted the thread title.

Given the modules that "Cannot be reached" and:
VIgn 0.1V
I still think there is some sort of power distribution problem in this car.

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09 BCM complains of terminal 30 open circuit. That needs to be dealt with 1st.
 
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where can i obtain a wiring diagram to test for terminal 30 BCM issue etc
 
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Hi Ewe, Do have have any suggestions on where i should start based on my latest scan. To be honest i am needing some guidance.
 
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Something tells me that this vehicle was jumped backwards. I would address terminal 30 fault and access start module issues.
 
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Bit unrelated and please remove if so.. but out of a spark of interest from the voltage reading shown at the end of an auto scan.. where does VCDS read constant/ignition live from? I’m assuming constant is direct from the OBD connector, but what about ignition, is this variable?
 
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Thanks for the responses and to be honest with you all. I have reached out for some logical help!
I am new to the VCDS and forums. I do have history in the trade but trying to learn and adapt to the modern technology.
I am in my 50's but have much success with diagnostics. My issue with this vehicle is a concern for me and all i am trying to do is repair it and most importantly LEARN something new. My gain from this financially will be nothing but knowledge will be the essence. I am confident there are a lot of experienced techs that could guide me through this on the forum. Just before its mentioned to take it to a VW dealer for repair! They had it for 3 months and could not repair it.
Just a recap.. vehicle opens with remote and when the door is shut the steering column steering lock constantly activates thru a sequences but does NOT release. A yellow symbol of the steering wheel displays on the dash and a message appears to MOVE STEERING WHEEL. I was able to start the vehicle once multiple times but when i returned later that after noon it would not start and showed the same symptoms of the steering lock trying to release.
Full Scan done previously on my feed. keep in mind i get no ignition lights at all. I'm hoping for baby steps here as its a bit embarrassing at over 50 to be asking for help but as mentioned i am not totally up to date with the VCDS and its interpretation ,My apologies.
Many thanks in advance to the Forum community.
cheers
Mal
 
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No one can know everything. It's not possible to be an expert on everything either. Did the vw dealer change any parts? If so what was changed? I still think you should be chasing down terminal 30 faults and the access start module. Access start module wakes everything up in the vehicle including the dash IIRC.
 
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