04-Steering Angle -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100

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So, I have this Skoda Rapid 2014, 1.4TSI with 156.000 km on the clock. VIN TMBET6NH1E4523977.

For almost half a year I've been to four workshops and several hours of trying myself, I am on the verge of giving up this car, and my last resort is now you guys.

Short backstory:
A workshop coded a new extra key for me in february 2024, after the coding the dashboard lighted up and all security systems like ABS, TCS, TPMS ETC has stopped working. Some of the technicians I've talked to says it's not unlikely a low voltage has throwed of the calibration of the steering angle, but that should be an easy fix, it should not loose connection to the steering angle module. (I've also done the calibration of Steering Angle on other VAG cars myself with success).

So, latest workshop that looked at it claimed to have checked what he could (idk what that means) but he suspects the steering angle module has lost its coding completely.

A VW shop gave me a quote on changing the ABS central and a new wiring harness, this is almost guaranteed not going to help according to all other shops and technicians I've talked to.

What can I do here?

Is the steering angle module a part of the cars brain? Would I need a new ECU/brain for the car in order to reestablish the connectivity to the steering angle module? Or is this "module" based inside a part that can be changed? I've bought a new airbag rotary ring (identical part number) as according to my local Skoda dealer, the Steering angle sensor is built into this part. I tried swapping the ABS central, with no luck to the steering angle problem.

Full fault code readout is attached. I have some faults on the radio and cylinders misfiring, just ignore those for now.

The relevant ones are:

04-Steering Angle -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100

Address 01: Engine (J623-CAXA)
4729
- Steering Effort Control Module
U0130 00 [00101111] - No Communications

Address 02: Auto Tran
006243
- Powertrain Data Bus
P1863 - 000 - Missing Message from Steering Angle Sensor

Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)
0286
- Databus
U1121 00 [00001000] - Missing Message

0405 - Incorrect Vehicle Type
U10D9 00 [10001001]

Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)
00778
- Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
004 - No Signal/Communication

Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)
1091584
- invalid data record
B2005 00 [00001001] - -

Full readout:
Code:
Wednesday,09,October,2024,10:25:45:35578
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 24.5.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4643.4
Data version: 20240429 DS355.0
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Workshop Code: 210 01369 040505

VIN: TMBET6NH1E4523977   License Plate:



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Chassis Type: NH-SK25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 2E 37 44 56 61 69

VIN: TMBET6NH1E4523977  

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAXA)       Labels:. 03C-906-016-CAX2.clb
   Part No SW: 03C 906 016 GD    HW: 03C 906 016 GD
   Component: 1.4l R4 TSI   H01 4583 
   Revision: LPH01---    Serial number:                CVN: F291B5BC
   Coding: 00250032002401000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00016
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TFS01103C906016GD 001003
   ROD: EV_ECM14TFS01103C906016GD.rod
   VCID: 678BB7CBDFE57B92F69-8032
   VINID: 91D4959067980551050832471CDA5CE923

6 Faults Found:
4571 - Ignition Control Circuit for Cylinder 1
          P0351 00 [01100000] - Malfunction
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 9
                    Mileage: 257714 km
                    Date: 2120.14.31
                    Time: 20:13:34

                    Engine RPM: 2258.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 9.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 82 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 93  C
                    Intake air temperature: 35  C
                    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.829 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 39
                    Mass flow through throttle valve: 15.0 kg/h
                    Mean injection time: 0.694 ms
                    Engine operating condition: Part throttle
                    Engine operating condition-Test_Program_Channel 87: 6

4729 - Steering Effort Control Module
          U0130 00 [00101111] - No Communications
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 257671 km
                    Date: 2120.14.31
                    Time: 17:57:44

                    Engine RPM: 695.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 20.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 92  C
                    Intake air temperature: 47  C
                    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.970 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    CAN status - engine control module-Bits 0-7: 0
                    CAN TimeOut meter - transmission-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Generator performance: 0 W
                    CAN TimeOut meter - gateway-Bits 0-7: 0
                    CAN TimeOut meter - transmission-Bits 0-7: 0
                    CAN TimeOut meter - battery manager-Bits 0-7: 0

4054 - Cylinder 1
          P0301 00 [01100000] - Misfire Detected
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 257729 km
                    Date: 2120.14.31
                    Time: 20:31:35

                    Engine RPM: 4375.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 99.6 %
                    Vehicle speed: 73 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 93  C
                    Intake air temperature: 36  C
                    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.994 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 39
                    Misfire totalizer: 122
                    Drive time with activated exhaust malfunction indicator lamp: 0 s
                    Leakage air: 3.4 kg/h
                    Long term adaptation of throttle valve for mass air flow sensor: 1.04108
                    Long-term fuel trim bank 1 at idle: -1.27 %
                    Fuel level: 49.00 l
                    Crankshaft signal evaluation: status: GAPFOUND
                    Crankshaft signal evaluation: status-Test_Program_Epm H Cr S st Sig Mode State t UBYTE: 7

4057 - Cylinder 2
          P0302 00 [01100000] - Misfire Detected
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 257675 km
                    Date: 2120.14.31
                    Time: 18:06:44

                    Engine RPM: 2456.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 79.6 %
                    Vehicle speed: 15 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 93  C
                    Intake air temperature: 42  C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.088 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 38
                    Misfire totalizer: 284
                    Drive time with activated exhaust malfunction indicator lamp: 15 s
                    Leakage air: 3.4 kg/h
                    Long term adaptation of throttle valve for mass air flow sensor: 1.04108
                    Long-term fuel trim bank 1 at idle: -1.27 %
                    Fuel level: 49.00 l
                    Crankshaft signal evaluation: status: GAPFOUND
                    Crankshaft signal evaluation: status-Test_Program_Epm H Cr S st Sig Mode State t UBYTE: 7

7960 - Cylinder Disabling
          P130A 00 [00100000] - -
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 257675 km
                    Date: 2120.14.31
                    Time: 18:06:44

                    Engine RPM: 2456.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 79.6 %
                    Vehicle speed: 15 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 93  C
                    Intake air temperature: 42  C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.088 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 38
                    Misfire totalizer: 284
                    Drive time with activated exhaust malfunction indicator lamp: 15 s
                    Leakage air: 3.4 kg/h
                    Long term adaptation of throttle valve for mass air flow sensor: 1.04108
                    Long-term fuel trim bank 1 at idle: -1.27 %
                    Fuel level: 49.00 l
                    Crankshaft signal evaluation: status: GAPFOUND
                    Crankshaft signal evaluation: status-Test_Program_Epm H Cr S st Sig Mode State t UBYTE: 7

4051 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
          P0300 00 [01100000] - -
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 257729 km
                    Date: 2120.14.31
                    Time: 20:31:35

                    Engine RPM: 4375.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 99.6 %
                    Vehicle speed: 73 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 93  C
                    Intake air temperature: 36  C
                    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.994 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 39
                    Misfire totalizer: 122
                    Drive time with activated exhaust malfunction indicator lamp: 0 s
                    Leakage air: 3.4 kg/h
                    Long term adaptation of throttle valve for mass air flow sensor: 1.04108
                    Long-term fuel trim bank 1 at idle: -1.27 %
                    Fuel level: 49.00 l
                    Crankshaft signal evaluation: status: GAPFOUND
                    Crankshaft signal evaluation: status-Test_Program_Epm H Cr S st Sig Mode State t UBYTE: 7

Readiness: 0000 0100

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0AM 300 062 M    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
   Component: GSG DSG AG7     431 6561 
   Revision: 00043014    Serial number: CU501401155558
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 51729 001 1048576
   VCID: 36352A8FC44FD21ABDF-8062

1 Fault Found:
006243 - Powertrain Data Bus
               P1863 - 000 - Missing Message from Steering Angle Sensor
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 19
                    Reset counter: 10
                    Mileage: 257537 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2056.14.31
                    Time: 23:51:26


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-614-517-TRW460.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 614 517 BK    HW: 6R0 614 517 BK
   Component: EBC 460 ESP   H08 0004 
   Serial number: A00ICBD
   Coding: 4129481489B300B7825012D991A700504B0800
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESPAEntryTRW 002011
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESPAEntryTRW.rod
   VCID: 7DA7F5A3AD79C1423C5-8028

2 Faults Found:
0286 - Databus
          U1121 00 [00001000] - Missing Message
          [MSG_LW_1_TIMEOUT]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 117
                    Mileage: 257537 km
                    Date: 2120.14.31
                    Time: 23:54:57

                    DTC: 00 01 1E

0405 - Incorrect Vehicle Type
          U10D9 00 [10001001] - -
          [CHASSINF_CAR_TYPE_MISMATCH]
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 117
                    Mileage: 257537 km
                    Date: 2120.14.31
                    Time: 23:51:28

                    DTC: 00 01 95


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 6Q0-907-044.lbl
   Part No SW: 5JA 907 044     HW: 5JA 907 044
   Component: Climatronic   H04 0106 
   Revision: A1001000    Serial number:  1311191A-0046
   VCID: 78A9E4B782DBE46A6F3-802C

2 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101110
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 153
                    Mileage: 257542 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2056.14.31
                    Time: 11:44:55

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 14.64 V

00710 - Defroster Flap Positioning Motor (V107)
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 157
                    Mileage: 257741 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2057.14.01
                    Time: 08:27:33

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 14.52 V


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 B    HW: 7H0 937 090
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H74 0712 
   Revision: B9074001    Serial number: 0571 018140590
   Coding: 24980B0000092000000809302E0B0CC00E80400F60820040020000004000
   Shop #: WSC 01369 210 40505
   VCID: 2D0705E33D1991C2CC5-8078

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 719 F    HW: 5E0 919 719 F  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-PR6  H04 0130
   Serial number: 000000000B0626240114
   Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5JA-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 5JA 919 475 A    HW: 5J0 919 475 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 3K  H11 0005 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 32901401600160
   Coding: 110103
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14SK25X0000 001002
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14SK25X0000.rod
   VCID: 44D140478E13708A33B-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 34D 959 655 B    HW: 34D 959 655 B
   Component: AirbagVW20    004 0365 
   Serial number: 003K7R02TEU3 Dataset Number: 5JA003t____ 0013
   Coding: 88CCC00000000000540000C8000000000065
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW253 001108
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW253.rod
   VCID: 34311087DEB3C00A83B-8060

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 411 801 14
   Component: SideSensor_Df  003 0148
   Serial number: 349651A016EB02A48D9U
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 411 801 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  003 0148
   Serial number: 350651A0119A0D543C35
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 411 801 14
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  003 0148
   Serial number: 351651A0146C4F02CFAQ
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 411 801 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  003 0148
   Serial number: 352651A0119C89234FAK
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments
Cannot be reached

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7H0 937 090
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0712 
   Revision: B9074001   
   Coding: 03A277
   Shop #: WSC 01369 210 40505
   VCID: 70B9DC97EAABBC2AA73-8024

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 112
                    Mileage: 257537 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2056.14.31
                    Time: 23:51:26


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H04 0709 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A8DCEFFCCF746FAE97-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G    HW: 5N0 035 342 G
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770 
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7665752742   
   Coding: 030100
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00021
   VCID: 2B030BFB030D9FF2D21-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels:| 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
   Part No SW: 5JA 035 192 J    HW: 5JA 035 192 J
   Component: RNS315-EU   H76 0410 
   Serial number: SKZAZ2P0041600
   Coding: 040004010207000001000002
   Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00021
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS 001705
   ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS_SK25.rod
   VCID: 3E2532AFE0FF1A5A65F-806A

   Data carrier:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866
   Component: EUR_W_V5  0055

2 Faults Found:
1048632 - Antenna 1 for Radio
          B1119 13 [00001001] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 112
                    Mileage: 257537 km
                    Date: 2120.14.31
                    Time: 23:51:27

1048636 - Digital Radio Antenna
          B1103 13 [00001001] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 112
                    Mileage: 257537 km
                    Date: 2120.14.31
                    Time: 23:51:27


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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 6R1 909 144 R    HW: 6R1 909 144 E
   Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  311 3111 
   Serial number: CE1V0003 Dataset Number: 5JJ074t____ 0014
   Coding: 2007
   Shop #: WSC 99999 999 83333
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
   VCID: 46D55A4FB82F429A2DF-8012

1 Fault Found:
1091584 - invalid data record
          B2005 00 [00001001] - -
          [DEM_INVALID_DATASET_FAULT]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 112
                    Mileage: 257537 km
                    Date: 2120.14.31
                    Time: 23:51:26


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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7H0 907 534     HW: 7H0 937 090
   Component: Batt.regelung H74 0712 
   Serial number: 0571 018140590
   Coding: 032B7A64
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00021
   VCID: 6B83CBFBC38D5FF2921-803E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 915 181 E    HW: 6R0 915 181 E
   Component: J367-BDM  H08 0181
   Serial number: 51007K09162031593138

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F    HW: 1K0 907 383 F
   Component: Anhaenger     H09 0100 
   Revision: 3A001001    Serial number: 00008200034725
   Coding: 410D000100000000
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00021
   VCID: 30391C972A2BFC2AE73-8064

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:27, VBatt start/end: 13.1V/13.8V)-----------

Edit: removed something irrelevant.
 
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So. to make this even stranger. In module 44 Steering Assist, I can read out the steering angle. It also says it's calibrated, and values change on turing the steering wheel..

Code:
Wednesday,09,October,2024,10:57:38:35578
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 24.5.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4643.4
Data version: 20240429 DS355.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Workshop Code: 210 01369 040505

VIN: TMBET6NH1E4523977   License Plate:



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                Address 44: Steering Assist  (6R1 909 144 R)

10:57:31
  IDE02216-MAS01632   Steering angle sensor: basic setting-Status calibrated
  IDE02216-MAS03161   Steering angle sensor: basic setting-Start possible
  IDE03725-IDE03734   Steering Assistance-Support power 100.00 %
  IDE03725-MAS03001   Steering Assistance-Mode automatic
  IDE04448-IDE00924   Steering angle sensor: angle-Steering angle 2.1 °
 
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I would start from here: ABS

0405 - Incorrect Vehicle Type
U10D9 00 [10001001] - -
[CHASSINF_CAR_TYPE_MISMATCH]
 
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I would start from here: ABS

0405 - Incorrect Vehicle Type
U10D9 00 [10001001] - -
[CHASSINF_CAR_TYPE_MISMATCH]
Thanks for your reply Boki Ar.

Start here, but do what?
Change the vehicle type? If so, how?
 
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If it is a Rapid Liftback/Spaceback PQ25, it is possible that we have the wrong ABS coding.

My observation is that byte 0 = 41, which means PQ25, however, byte 6 says otherwise, 00 = PQ26.
If PQ25 byte 6 should be 10 instead of 00.

It doesn't have to be that I'm right, I'd like to consult @iichel.

It is necessary to determine where they went wrong in the configuration of Skoda.
 
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car already had a new ABS?
https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/522277-software-trouble-after-new-keys-on-2014-14-tsi-rapid/ same question but different forum

any coding is factory coding?

Code:
4129481409B200B9824C12D790A700504B0A00 ross tech
4129481489B300B7825012D991A700504B0800 briskoda
4129481489B300B7825012D991A700504B0800 reddit

wtf?

41 29 48 14 09 B2 00 B9 82 4C 12 D7 90 A7 00 50 4B 0A 00 RT
41 29 48 14 89 B3 00 B7 82 50 12 D9 91 A7 00 50 4B 08 00 reddit... what's different? vin bytes italic
factory slip ring: 6RA 959 653 A = without G85 --> G85 in rack

step 1: proper code for this car
4129481489B300B7825012D991A700504F0800?
412948148AB300B7825012D951A700504F0800?

or maybe something else completely. i feel like i'm missing a lot of info.
 
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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792) Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
Part No SW: 6R1 909 144 R HW: 6R1 909 144 E
Component: EPS_TRW_ALow 311 3111
Serial number: CE1V0003 Dataset Number: 5JJ074t____ 0014
Coding: 2007
Shop #: WSC 99999 999 83333
ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
VCID: 46D55A4FB82F429A2DF-8012

1 Fault Found:
1091584 - invalid data record
B2005 00 [00001001] - -
[DEM_INVALID_DATASET_FAULT]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 112
Mileage: 257537 km
Date: 2120.14.31
Time: 23:51:26
I have not seen any car with this coding, normal coding for this Rapid is 0003
Get the B2005 fixed.
 
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Hm. Thank you for your replies.

Regarding the post on briskoda and a new ABS central: I tried swapping the ABS central as a form of elimination of potential problems, the "new" central did not accept a new code. I swapped them back, and the car has the OEM (afaik) ABS central again.

I never ended up changing any coding on anything, but I can't guarantee the techs that looked on it didn't change any of them.

So, If i got this right, it might seem like the ABS is looking for a G85 in the rack, but also my slip ring is part nr. 6RA 959 653 A, which according to iichel is the version with the G85 on the rack. But I am 99% sure i don't have the G85 on the rack, I even specifically discussed this with the Skoda parts tech that ordered my slip ring.

If i'm not completely confused now, this is what I'll try first based on your response:
  • change the steering assist lcode to 0003.
  • change ABS lcode to 412948148AB300B7825012D951A700504F0800 (because the A indicates G85 in slip ring?)
 
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OK, so I changed the steering assist lcode to 0003,
but my ABS central rejects the change in code.
"Coding rejected, Error 31 request out of range"
and
"Coding rejected, error 22: conditions not correct or sequence error.

The differense between these are the error 31 comes after i manually replace 9 with A, the error 22 comes when I copy the lcode from this site. might just be random too.

Tried with the 20103 security access key, and both with ignition ON, and car running. both ended in coding rejected.

Here's a new full scan from just now.
Thursday,10,October,2024,23:51:23:35578
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 24.5.0.0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4643.4
Data version: 20240429 DS355.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Workshop Code: 210 01369 040505

VIN: TMBET6NH1E4523977 License Plate:
Mileage: 257750km-160158mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: NH-SK25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 2E 37 44 56 61 69 0B

VIN: TMBET6NH1E4523977 Mileage: 257750km-160158miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CAXA) Labels:. 03C-906-016-CAX2.clb
Part No SW: 03C 906 016 GD HW: 03C 906 016 GD
Component: 1.4l R4 TSI H01 4583
Revision: LPH01--- Serial number: CVN: F291B5BC
Coding: 00250032002401000000
Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00016
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TFS01103C906016GD 001003
ROD: EV_ECM14TFS01103C906016GD.rod
VCID: 678BB7CBDFE57B92F69-8032
VINID: 91D4959067980551050832471CDA5CE923

1 Fault Found:
4729 - Steering Effort Control Module
U0130 00 [00101000] - No Communications
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 257751 km
Date: 2024.10.09
Time: 00:03:39

Engine RPM: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 28 C
Intake air temperature: 12 C
Ambient air pressure: 970 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 13.735 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
CAN status - engine control module-Bits 0-7: 0
CAN TimeOut meter - transmission-Bits 0-7: 0
Generator performance: 0 W
CAN TimeOut meter - gateway-Bits 0-7: 0
CAN TimeOut meter - transmission-Bits 0-7: 0
CAN TimeOut meter - battery manager-Bits 0-7: 0

Readiness: 1110 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
Part No SW: 0AM 300 062 M HW: 0AM 927 769 D
Component: GSG DSG AG7 431 6561
Revision: 00043014 Serial number: CU501401155558
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 51729 001 1048576
VCID: 36352A8FC44FD21ABDF-8062

1 Fault Found:
006243 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1863 - 000 - Missing Message from Steering Angle Sensor - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 10
Mileage: 257751 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2019.03.02
Time: 00:03:36


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 6R0-614-517-TRW460.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 614 517 BK HW: 6R0 614 517 BK
Component: EBC 460 ESP H08 0004
Serial number: A00ICBD
Coding: 4129481489B300B7825012D991A700504B0800
Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESPAEntryTRW 002011
ROD: EV_Brake1ESPAEntryTRW.rod
VCID: 7DA7F5A3AD79C1423C5-8028

3 Faults Found:
0360 - Steering angle sensor
B1168 54 [10001001] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

0286 - Databus
U1121 00 [00001000] - Missing Message
[MSG_LW_1_TIMEOUT]
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 157
Mileage: 257751 km
Date: 2024.10.09
Time: 01:25:55

DTC: 00 01 1E

0405 - Incorrect Vehicle Type
U10D9 00 [10001001] - -
[CHASSINF_CAR_TYPE_MISMATCH]
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 117
Mileage: 257751 km
Date: 2024.10.09
Time: 00:03:39

DTC: 00 01 95


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 6Q0-907-044.lbl
Part No SW: 5JA 907 044 HW: 5JA 907 044
Component: Climatronic H04 0106
Revision: A1001000 Serial number: 1311191A-0046
VCID: 78A9E4B782DBE46A6F3-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 7H0 937 090 B HW: 7H0 937 090
Component: BCM PQ25 Max4 H74 0712
Revision: B9074001 Serial number: 0571 018140590
Coding: 24980B0000092000000809302E0B0CC00E80400F60820040020000004000
Shop #: WSC 01369 210 40505
VCID: 2D0705E33D1991C2CC5-8078

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 719 F HW: 5E0 919 719 F Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-PR6 H04 0130
Serial number: 000000000B0626240114
Coding: 820000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:| 5JA-919-475.clb
Part No SW: 5JA 919 475 A HW: 5J0 919 475 A
Component: PARKHILFE 3K H11 0005
Revision: -------- Serial number: 32901401600160
Coding: 110103
Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14SK25X0000 001002
ROD: EV_EPHVA14SK25X0000.rod
VCID: 44D140478E13708A33B-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 34D 959 655 B HW: 34D 959 655 B
Component: AirbagVW20 004 0365
Serial number: 003K7R02TEU3 Dataset Number: 5JA003t____ 0013
Coding: 88CCC00000000000540000C8000000000065
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW253 001108
ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW253.rod
VCID: 34311087DEB3C00A83B-8060

Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 411 801 14
Component: SideSensor_Df 003 0148
Serial number: 349651A016EB02A48D9U
Coding: 2D2D2D

Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 411 801 14
Component: SideSensor_Pf 003 0148
Serial number: 350651A0119A0D543C35
Coding: 2D2D2D

Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 411 801 14
Component: SideSensor_Dr 003 0148
Serial number: 351651A0146C4F02CFAQ
Coding: 2D2D2D

Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 411 801 14
Component: SideSensor_Pr 003 0148
Serial number: 352651A0119C89234FAK
Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 5JA 920 840 D HW: 5JA 920 840 D
Component: KOMBI H04 0709
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 110C00
Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_SK25.rod
VCID: 3B233BBBF3ED0F72421-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 7H0 937 090
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H74 0712
Revision: B9074001
Coding: 03A277
Shop #: WSC 01369 210 40505
VCID: 70B9DC97EAABBC2AA73-8024

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 157
Mileage: 257751 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2019.03.02
Time: 00:03:37


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H04 0709
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
VCID: 6A8DCEFFCCF746FAE97-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650) Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G HW: 5N0 035 342 G
Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770
Revision: A1001003 Serial number: 7665752742
Coding: 030100
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00021
VCID: 2B030BFB030D9FF2D21-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794) Labels:| 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
Part No SW: 5JA 035 192 J HW: 5JA 035 192 J
Component: RNS315-EU H76 0410
Serial number: SKZAZ2P0041600
Coding: 040004010207000001000002
Shop #: WSC 73430 031 00021
ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS 001705
ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS_SK25.rod
VCID: 3E2532AFE0FF1A5A65F-806A

Data carrier:
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866
Component: EUR_W_V5 0055

2 Faults Found:
1048632 - Antenna 1 for Radio
B1119 13 [00001001] - Open Circuit
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 117
Mileage: 257751 km
Date: 2024.10.09
Time: 00:03:37

1048636 - Digital Radio Antenna
B1103 13 [00001001] - Open Circuit
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 117
Mileage: 257751 km
Date: 2024.10.09
Time: 00:03:37


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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792) Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
Part No SW: 6R1 909 144 R HW: 6R1 909 144 E
Component: EPS_TRW_ALow 311 3111
Serial number: CE1V0003 Dataset Number: 5JJ074t____ 0014
Coding: 0003
Shop #: WSC 01369 210 40505
ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
VCID: 46D55A4FB82F429A2DF-8012

1 Fault Found:
1091584 - invalid data record
B2005 00 [00001001] - -
[DEM_INVALID_DATASET_FAULT]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 117
Mileage: 257751 km
Date: 2024.10.09
Time: 00:03:37


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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840) Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
Part No SW: 7H0 907 534 HW: 7H0 937 090
Component: Batt.regelung H74 0712
Serial number: 0571 018140590
Coding: 032B7A64
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00021
VCID: 6B83CBFBC38D5FF2921-803E

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 915 181 E HW: 6R0 915 181 E
Component: J367-BDM H08 0181
Serial number: 51007K09162031593138

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345) Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F HW: 1K0 907 383 F
Component: Anhaenger H09 0100
Revision: 3A001001 Serial number: 00008200034725
Coding: 410D000100000000
Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00021
VCID: 30391C972A2BFC2AE73-8064

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:33, VBatt start/end: 12.3V/12.2V)-----------
 
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do both yes

your abs could be searching for a G85 in slip ring but it's in the rack
But it is in the slip ring, not on the rack. At least I cannot find it on the rack, and my Skoda dealer has confirmed it is NOT on the rack but integrated in the slip ring 6RA 959 653 A

I might be looking in the wrong place though.
 
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As I wrote above, no. I could code the steering assist to 0003, but abs won't accept any code.

That's the same part no. slip ring as I have installed.

Heres what I wrote and the full scan from right after I tested both suggestions. Why can't the abs accept new code? Do I have to do something special for it to accept it?
OK, so I changed the steering assist lcode to 0003,
but my ABS central rejects the change in code.
"Coding rejected, Error 31 request out of range"
and
"Coding rejected, error 22: conditions not correct or sequence error.

The differense between these are the error 31 comes after i manually replace 9 with A, the error 22 comes when I copy the lcode from this site. might just be random too.

Tried with the 20103 security access key, and both with ignition ON, and car running. both ended in coding rejected.

Here's a new full scan from just now.
 
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I notice that coding 0003 at address 44 did not fix this condition:

1 Fault Found:
1091584 - invalid data record
B2005 00 [00001001] - -
[DEM_INVALID_DATASET_FAULT]

Let's consult more experienced people on what is needed to eliminate this. Me think that the ABS coding will not go through while this error is present, as well as others related to the communication of the module at address 44 with the others.

Have you tried to delete the DTCs here:

Code:
0X1:
1 Fault Found:
4729 - Steering Effort Control Module
         U0130 00 [00101000] - No Communications

0X2:
1 Fault Found:
006243 - Powertrain Data Bus
              P1863 - 000 - Missing Message from Steering Angle Sensor - Intermittent

0X19:
1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
           004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

If it is possible to remove these DTCs, try this.
Battery voltage min. 12.5V. (Use a charger, please.)
Key on, engine off.
ABS coding: 4129481489B300B7825012D991A700404F0700
It should pass.
 
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But it is in the slip ring, not on the rack. At least I cannot find it on the rack, and my Skoda dealer has confirmed it is NOT on the rack but integrated in the slip ring 6RA 959 653 A

I might be looking in the wrong place though.
The slip ring with g85 ends in 654A
 
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