MK4 Golf PD130 Speed sensor fault?

[Jack_warner99]

Hi Guys,

I've got a fault:

00281 - Vehicle Speed Sensor (G68)
37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent

I had a quick google and it comes up with a sensor for automatic gearbox's but i have a 6 speed manual?

another weird fact (which you will see from autoscan) is that its showing in the auto hvac section

any ideas?

Tuesday,01,October,2024,09:25:08:08566
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 24.7.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4643.5
Data version: 20240715 DS356.3
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VIN: WVWZZZ1JZ3B150676   License Plate:


Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
          76
 
VIN: WVWZZZ1JZ3B150676   Mileage: 387160km-240570miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-019-ASZ.lbl
   Part No: 038 906 019 HJ
   Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0000SG  1490 
   Coding: 00002
   Shop #: WSC 00046 
   VCID: 66926F249175DA5AC5F-4B1E
   WVWZZZ1JZ3B150676     VWZ6Z0C0012307

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 X X X

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 M
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102 
   Coding: 0019970
   Shop #: WSC 00046 615 1234567
   VCID: 3436C56C922978CA8BB-5160

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            003 - Mechanical Failure

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 3Bx-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 3B1 907 044 C
   Component: CLIMATRONIC     C 2.0.0 
   Coding: 11000
   Shop #: WSC 00046 
   VCID: 21183C3838DBFD6270D-518C

2 Faults Found:
00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17)
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
00281 - Vehicle Speed Sensor (G68)
            37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
   Component: 27 AIRBAG VW51 01   0008 
   Coding: 12855
   Shop #: WSC 00046 
   VCID: 221A33343DDDE67A697-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 920 926 C
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB8 V28 
   Coding: 05414
   Shop #: WSC 00046 
   VCID: 2A0ADB1445ED3E3A217-5160
   WVWZZZ1JZ3B150676     VWZ6Z0C0012307

2 Faults Found:
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.clb
   Part No: 6N0 909 901
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001 
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 00046 
   VCID: 70BE097CA3B104EAAF3-5160

2 Faults Found:
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 B
   Component: 1Y Komfortger t HLO 0003 
   Coding: 00065
   Shop #: WSC 00046 
   VCID: 3632FF6481556ADAB5F-4B1E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C2959802A
   Component: 1Y T rsteuer.FS KLO 0009 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C2959801A
   Component: 1Y T rsteuer.BF KLO 0009 

5 Faults Found:
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
00912 - Window Regulator Switch; Front Left (E40)
            27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147)
            62-10 - No or Incorrect Adjustment - Intermittent
01034 - Electric Window Thermal Protection Active; Driver
            35-10 - - - Intermittent
00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220)
            27-00 - Implausible Signal

End----------(Elapsed Time: 05:00, VBatt start/end: 12.9V/12.8V)-----------
Tuesday,01,October,2024,09:25:59:08566
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 24.7.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4643.5
Data version: 20240715 DS356.3
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VIN: WVWZZZ1JZ3B150676   License Plate:


Scan: Auto-detect
Function not supported by the gateway.
VIN: WVWZZZ1JZ3B150676   Mileage: 387160km-240570miles
End----------(Elapsed Time: 00:03, VBatt start/end: 12.8V/12.8V)-----------

 

[Dr Sheldon]

I had a quick google and it comes up with a sensor for automatic gearbox's but i have a 6 speed manual?

Yes very interesting that it pops up in HVAC

 

[Jef]

Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 3Bx-907-044.lbl

00281 - Vehicle Speed Sensor (G68)
37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent

Get some one to test drive the car for you, go into 08-08-001.3 and see if you get a valid reading.

But at the same time, if the HVAC is working fine, I'm not sure how deep I'd dig into this.

 

[Jack_warner99]

Get some one to test drive the car for you, go into 08-08-001.3 and see if you get a valid reading.

But at the same time, if the HVAC is working fine, I'm not sure how deep I'd dig into this.

I’ll give that a try. But yeah I get what you mean, just abit odd?

Previous owner mentioned the vehicle had an “economic map”

Is it possible it could be a copied and pasted map from an auto pd130 and not even exist in the car?

 

[Uwe]

Previous owner mentioned the vehicle had an “economic map”

I wouldn't expect a re-map to affect what fault codes the HVAC throws. However, that HVAC module does want to know the vehicle's speed, but it's unclear to me where it gets the speed information. I'm guessing it should come in the form of CAN messages from the Instrument Cluster.

-Uwe-

 

[EuroX]

Pretty sure all manual transissios in mk4 have a VSS in them and have had that sensor for a very long time going all the way back to the mid 1980's.

 

[Uwe]

Pretty sure all manual transissios in mk4 have a VSS in them

I think that's correct. The question then is: What's that VSS connected to? On cars with internal CAN networks (which this is, but pre-2000 ones are not), I would think it's connected to the instrument cluster and the other modules get vehicle speed via CAN messages, but I'm not 100% certain about that.

-Uwe-

 

[EuroX]

I think that's correct. The question then is: What's that VSS connected to? On cars with internal CAN networks (which this is, but pre-2000 ones are not), I would think it's connected to the instrument cluster and the other modules get vehicle speed via CAN messages, but I'm not 100% certain about that.

-Uwe-

I would think direct connection to cluster, ECM and abs for sure if it's got cruise control I would think all of those modules want to know vehicle speed. OP should check wiring diagram.

 

[Jef]

G22, would of been wired up to the cluster... the "GALA" signal.