MK4 Golf 2003 PD130 - ESP switch non functioning and no traction light on dash?

[Jack_warner99]

Hi guys,

So I just bought a gt tdi, MOT mentions a failure due to ABS light on and esp switch not functioning.

Now I have bought the car and I’m not seeing any ABS light, only on first key turn until it disappears as expected. But interestingly I get no engine light or traction light. And as mentioned esp switch non functioning. Iv tried a working switch to no avail.

I spoke to PO and they said at the garage they, and I quote “turned the light off using the code “so I can only imagine in software they’ve disabled the light or somehow disabled traction control. What would I check to get either the light or the esp back to functioning again so I can find the underlying issue that was causing the problem in the first place before the garage disabled it?

Thanks!

 

[Dr Sheldon]

FIRST
Post the Autoscan

Go into Instruments and do an Output test for the Cluster Lights - See if the y all light up !!

Not un common for the LED's to be knocked off or covered with Black Tape / Silicon

 

[Jack_warner99]

I’ll give it a try when I’m next with the car! Might not be for a couple days, I’ll reply back once Iv tried! Thanks!

 

[PetrolDave]

Please post an Auto-Scan, without that anything we suggest is merely guesswork!

 

[Jack_warner99]

Please post an Auto-Scan, without that anything we suggest is merely guesswork!

Will do! Sorry this is my first day of ownership of VCDS, might not be able to get to the car til Friday for a scan so will come back then. Thanks!

 

[Jack_warner99]

Hi guys so i did a scan.

Also i tried to go onto the instruments section and do an output test but theres no option for showing the esp light on the dash. i noticed this is the same in both my gti and my gt tdi so im unsure if this option is in another menu. The ABS section output tests dont do anything cluster related and only the pump itself.

Saturday,21,September,2024,08:32:48:08566
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 24.7.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4643.5
Data version: 20240715 DS356.3
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VIN: WVWZZZ1JZ3B150676   License Plate:


Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
          76
 
VIN: WVWZZZ1JZ3B150676   Mileage: 386820km-240358miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-019-ASZ.lbl
   Part No: 038 906 019 HJ
   Component: 1,9l R4 EDC 0000SG  1490 
   Coding: 00002
   Shop #: WSC 00046 
   VCID: 66926F249175DA5AC5F-4B1E
   WVWZZZ1JZ3B150676     VWZ6Z0C0012307

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 X X X

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 M
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102 
   Coding: 0019970
   Shop #: WSC 00046 615 1234567
   VCID: 3436C56C922978CA8BB-5160

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            003 - Mechanical Failure

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 3Bx-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 3B1 907 044 C
   Component: CLIMATRONIC     C 2.0.0 
   Coding: 11000
   Shop #: WSC 00046 
   VCID: 21183C3838DBFD6270D-5196

2 Faults Found:
00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17)
            30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
00281 - Vehicle Speed Sensor (G68)
            37-00 - Faulty

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
   Component: 27 AIRBAG VW51 01   0008 
   Coding: 12855
   Shop #: WSC 00046 
   VCID: 221A33343DDDE67A697-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 920 926 C
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB8 V28 
   Coding: 05414
   Shop #: WSC 00046 
   VCID: 2A0ADB1445ED3E3A217-5160
   WVWZZZ1JZ3B150676     VWZ6Z0C0012307

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.clb
   Part No: 6N0 909 901
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001 
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 00046 
   VCID: 70BE097CA3B104EAAF3-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 B
   Component: 1Y Komfortger t HLO 0003 
   Coding: 00064
   Shop #: WSC 00046 
   VCID: 3632FF6481556ADAB5F-4B1E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C2959802A
   Component: 1Y T rsteuer.FS KLO 0009 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C2959801A
   Component: 1Y T rsteuer.BF KLO 0009 

No fault code found.

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[Uwe]

Also i tried to go onto the instruments section and do an output test but theres no option for showing the esp light on the dash.

Old Mk.4 style clusters won't have Selective Output Tests at all. However, I'd expect them to have a Sequential Test, and one of the items in that test should be a "Segment Test" or something like that, which lights up everything that can be lit. Note, this is from memory, from ~20 years ago, so I could be wrong.

-Uwe-

 

[Jack_warner99]

I’ll check this. Thankyou!

 

[Dr Sheldon]

Old Mk.4 style clusters won't have Selective Output Tests at all. However, I'd expect them to have a Sequential Test, and one of the items in that test should be a "Segment Test" or something like that, which lights up everything that can be lit. Note, this is from memory, from ~20 years ago, so I could be wrong.

-Uwe-

Dont think you are wrong - I would swear blind that there is something there of that nature !!

 

[Jack_warner99]

Dont think you are wrong - I would swear blind that there is something there of that nature !!

So on further software investigation i discovered in the ABS module if i read the values theres an option for "ESP Warning light" and its stuck to ON but everything else toggles between on and off to flash. so clearly theres some sort of hardware issue, most likely previous owner covering the bulb. i will inspect the instrument cluster next.