Really need some help, throttle body and tuning issues!

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Cool. Let us know when this has anything to do with VCDS in that case.
This does have to do with VCDS, I dont see why you're so rude im trying to fix my car. Simple as that. VCDS scanned my car and says i have 3 codes, VCDS says I cant perform a TBA. The only problem im worried about is these three codes. Nothing else matters.
 
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Everything matters.... especially details.... (and wiring)
Of course everything matters, im just saying that the 3 codes it where my focus is. it runs rough because I need a TBA and that the TB isnt opening when i start the car. If you view the car as a stock car where nothing has been messed with it just needs a TBA and itll run like normal. In this car i also need a TBA to work for my final part of my tune. So once i get the 3 codes fixed I can then run the TBA and all my problems go away.
 
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Splitting hairs here but if you fucked with the wiring and it ran like a bag of shit and still does now who's to say that this throttle body isn't fucked now and damaged because it was wired wrong. There's no fuse in that circuit because there should be no need to dick around with the wiring for a TB.

Also for context I don't see anything in this install guide about repinning a throttle body. It looks like it comes with a pigtail adapter already so if your doing things half ass expect half ass results.

 
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Was wiring check for gear recognition sensor and so on? If not I have nothing further to add. Check the obvious and report back or have 034 motorsports troubleshoot it for you it seems as their tech support is amazing.
 
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Splitting hairs here but if you fucked with the wiring and it ran like a bag of shit and still does now who's to say that this throttle body isn't fucked now and damaged because it was wired wrong. There's no fuse in that circuit because there should be no need to dick around with the wiring for a TB.

Also for context I don't see anything in this install guide about repinning a throttle body. It looks like it comes with a pigtail adapter already so if your doing things half ass expect half ass results.

Yes the 034 TB with the 034 tune is plug and play, I have a APR TB though so they give these same instructions to every customer they have in this situation, there is a few videos on youtube with 1000's of views too about this same repinning scenario. I didn't do anything half assed though. As i've been posting on all these forums I have been emailing back and forth with 034 for days now.

Was wiring check for gear recognition sensor and so on?
What do you mean by this? Its one of the three problem codes thats stopping me from do a TBA, if thats what your asking?
 
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ECM cannot have any codes in it in order to perform a TBA end to story. So what you should be doing is chasing down the cause of those codes.

where is the information for the repin?
 
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Why would you repin it? where is the information for the repin?

@EuroX

There is a TSB with JLR where if you buy a new Nox sensor from them you would have to repin the Plug - Something to do with Alternate Supplier for the Sensor - I too could not believe it

 
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That's next level butchery!
 
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That's next level butchery!
Trouble is when you buy he genuine replacement they dont tell you - You need to go to Topix (JLR Erwin) and dig through TSB's.

The factory WD does not acknowledge it - So whoever looks at that again when it plays up will pin it back - Good God !!
 
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@EuroX

There is a TSB with JLR where if you buy a new Nox sensor from them you would have to repin the Plug - Something to do with Alternate Supplier for the Sensor - I too could not believe it

LMFAO those fucking cars are giant piece of shit. A good friend of mine worked for them at their headquarters here in USA for 2 years. Let me tell you when an engineer tells you that the product is shit it must really be bad.
 
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LMFAO those fucking cars are giant piece of shit. A good friend of mine worked for them at their headquarters here in USA for 2 years. Let me tell you when an engineer tells you that the product is shit it must really be bad.
Yes

At 60k miles with full dealer history it is not uncommon for the Crankshaft on the V6 and V8 to SNAP !!!! No warning !!
 
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C'mon you guys... I was just watching a doc the other day on SuperSUVs or something like that... And the Autobiography SS super expensive luxury whatever was being hailed as the ultimate luxury/offroader/tech something rather.
 
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C'mon you guys... I was just watching a doc the other day on SuperSUVs or something like that... And the Autobiography SS super expensive luxury whatever was being hailed as the ultimate luxury/offroader/tech something rather.

They are superb to drive - Maintaining the bastard is whole new story !!
 
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ECM cannot have any codes in it in order to perform a TBA end to story. So what you should be doing is chasing down the cause of those codes.

where is the information for the repin?
heres one of the videos ive found and i know 034 has somewhere on their website the same thing but i cannot find it right now. Yes ive come to that conclusion as well, just need to get these codes figured out and everything else is smooth sailing
 
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heres one of the videos ive found and i know 034 has somewhere on their website the same thing but i cannot find it right now. Yes ive come to that conclusion as well, just need to get these codes figured out and everything else is smooth sailing
Any ideas for these codes? 034 emailed me back and guesses based off how the code reads that it something with the shifter but when i emailed JHM about it they said the short shifter cannot produce DTCs and i asked them another question but still waiting on the responses.
 
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Your 3 DTC's for the Gear / Neutral Selector / Shifter have no bearing on the TB Faults

For your own sanity separate the 2 in your head !!

You are in danger of disappearing up your own shirt trying to combine the 2 - So STOP !!



If you have Start Stop then those 3 Gear / Neutral related DTC's are possible - Even in a manual - But more digging to confirm that !!
 
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Your 3 DTC's for the Gear / Neutral Selector / Shifter have no bearing on the TB Faults

For your own sanity separate the 2 in your head !!

You are in danger of disappearing up your own shirt trying to combine the 2 - So STOP !!



If you have Start Stop then those 3 Gear / Neutral related DTC's are possible - Even in a manual - But more digging to confirm that !!
I dont think that they are related.. the only relation is that i cannot do a TBA because of the 3 DTC's. The TBA fails because i have active faults. So my problem is the faults.

By start stop, do you just mean push to start or something different?
 
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I dont think that they are related.. the only relation is that i cannot do a TBA because of the 3 DTC's. The TBA fails because i have active faults. So my problem is the faults.

By start stop, do you just mean push to start or something different?


You really are something special - Very Special !!
6518 - Throttle Position Sensor (G69) P0123 00 [10101111] - Signal too High MIL ON - Confirmed
6523 - Throttle Actuator (J338) P1565 00 [00100000] - Lower Stop not Reached Intermittent - Not Confirmed
These two and any other codes related to the TB will paralyse you from doing a TBA - Stop Talking - That is a Fact - Fix those codes first - Please !!

Different - Stop Start is where the engine will stop and re start autonomously when the vehicle is stationary at, for example, traffic lights, without the driver having to press a button or turn the key !!
 
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