Fancy radio in 2017 Jetta is overheating?

[jakedrakeblake]

Hi there!

My wife told me the radio in her 2017 Jetta started having issues.
These are the symptoms:

• The radio seems hot.
• It would shut down at times.
• It can become unresponsive.

I checked the radio for fault codes and it is reporting the following:

Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 035 200 C    HW: 5C0 035 200 C
   Component: MU-S-S-US     H32 0363
   Serial number: VWZAZ2U1607789 Dataset Number: V03935263MC 0001
   Coding: 02630100AA00000051220001001808009F0100D40020010002
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW32.rod
   VCID: 1577CECE350618029C5-8040

4 Faults Found:
0020 - Tuner for Satellite Radio
          B11CF 53 [00001001] - Deactivated
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 106
                    Mileage: 111330 km
                    Date: 2023.10.05.
                    Time: 12:01:06

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.5 V
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Satellite radio antenna status: electrically OK
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Channel selection for satellite radio: 0
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Audio Signal: Not available
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Antenna current: 0 mA
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Reception quality: No_signal
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Satellite radio tuner: pre-activation status: 00
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Satellite radio tuner: pre-activation value: 00

0516 - Connection to Rear Right Loudspeakers
          B110B F0 [00001000] - Cross-Coupled
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 121550 km
                    Date: 2024.08.16.
                    Time: 00:34:31

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.1 V

0521 - Connection to Front Right Loudspeakers
          B110A F0 [00001000] - Cross-Coupled
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 121550 km
                    Date: 2024.08.16.
                    Time: 00:34:31

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.1 V

6145 - Display and Control Head 1 for Information Electronics
          B129E 07 [00001000] - Mechanical Failure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Mileage: 121576 km
                    Date: 2024.08.16.
                    Time: 07:28:26

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.8 V

I was curious about the temperature and I was able to track the following:

                Address 5F: Information Electr.  (5C0 035 200 C)

20:10:01
  IDE00019   Voltage terminal 30 13.5 V
  IDE00655-MAS01424   Temperature of processor circuit board-max.value 45 °C
  IDE00655-MAS02238   Temperature of processor circuit board-Up-to-date 45 °C
  IDE06517-MAS01424   Temperature: audio amplifier-max.value 205 °C
  IDE06517-MAS02238   Temperature: audio amplifier-Up-to-date 205 °C
  IDE06519-MAS01424   Temperature of MOST transceiver-max.value 71 °C
  IDE06519-MAS02238   Temperature of MOST transceiver-Up-to-date 55 °C
  IDE06521-MAS01424   Temperature of MMX PC boards-max.value 205 °C
  IDE06521-MAS02238   Temperature of MMX PC boards-Up-to-date 205 °C

I am curious about the following:

• Is the temperature of 205C out of the regular range?
• Does anyone have an idea where to start investigating?

I am including a full autoscan here:

Monday,02,September,2024,19:54:09:30954
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 24.7.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4643.4
Data version: 20240715 DS356.3
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VIN: 3VWDB7AJ6H[redacted]   License Plate:
Mileage: 122070km-75850mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (7E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 04 05 08 09 15 17 19 25 2B 3C 44 5F 75

VIN: 3VWDB7AJ6HM279729   Mileage: 122070km-75850miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
75-Telematics -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CZTA)       Labels:. 04E-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04E 906 023 AL    HW: 04E 907 309 AP
   Component: R4 1.4l TFS   H22 3669
   Revision: X5H22---    CVN: 3BBC5B28
   Coding: 011A0012232400001000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00017
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906023AL 005004
   ROD: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906023AL.rod
   VCID: 6A8DCD324CF867FAE17-803E
   VINID: 0E69D448745A1987421C91C2246391823A

   Center armrest control head 1:

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels: 09G-927-749-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 749 AA    HW: 09G 927 749
   Component: AISIN AG6 G3  129 3128
   CVN: 56A8984D
   Coding: 010200000C000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00017
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAQ250031 002009
   ROD: EV_TCMAQ250031_002_VW31.rod
   VCID: 78A9E77A0254C56A673-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 CC    HW: 1K0 907 379 CC
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H46 0175
   Revision: 00H46001  
   Coding: A14B400C49290003851202E6922200412010F01A
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 75B7EE4E15C6B8027C5-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5K0-959-434.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 434 G    HW: 5K0 959 434
   Component: VWKESSYPQ35GP 092 1305
   Revision: 00092000    Serial number: 0417798439 Dataset Number: V03935236HT 0001
   Coding: 032C0C
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00178
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KESSYPQ35G A02717
   ROD: EV_KESSYPQ35G_A02_VW32.rod
   VCID: 392F227E79DE1C6258D-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 5C0-820-047.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 820 047 DA    HW: 5C0 820 047 DA
   Component: J301  Klimaanlage   0211
   Revision: 2001401S    Serial number: 00000003639407
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00017
   VCID: 629DA512B8483FBA297-8036

1 Fault Found:
03984 - Left front heated seat
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00111011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 131
                    Mileage: 111824 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 937 190 B    HW: 7E0 937 190
   Component: BCM PQ25 Max3 H81 0744
   Revision: B8081001    Serial number: 88007245165712
   Coding: 7B994B9A28230F0008392080240884C54BC672FE600151F0B0A050032844
   Shop #: WSC 01799 002 104857
   VCID: 2B0308368302BEF2DA1-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 DF    HW: 6R0 959 801 DF  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  022 1467
   Serial number: 14102743161011203741
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 DJ    HW: 6R0 959 802 DJ  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  022 1467
   Serial number: 14202742161017064728
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 591 A    HW: 6R0 959 591 D
   Component: J245 PS41.402  H03 0004
   Serial number: 0000FST001696DZ00000
   Coding: 180000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 A    HW: 6C0 959 442 A
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H06 0023
   Serial number: 2291607454400845AD2B
   Coding: 280000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 T    HW: 6R0 959 811 T
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  022 1467
   Serial number: 14102745161015064543
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 T    HW: 6R0 959 812 T
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  022 1467
   Serial number: 14102744161015181106
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 561-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 561 959 655     HW: 561 959 655
   Component: AirbagVW11    008 0210
   Serial number: 003RXM094J7  Dataset Number: 5C6003V____ 0017
   Coding: 8CCCF000000000005000001AC20800000065
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00017
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW11SMEVW411 001002
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW11SMEVW411.rod
   VCID: 6393A016ABD236B2221-8036

   Seat occupied recognition:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 959 339 B    HW: 4M0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H13 0022
   Serial number: IBH000000000005YM8UG
   Coding: 303146

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 009 16
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887
   Serial number: 35700000000AF829DD10

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 009 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887
   Serial number: 358000000001E829DD1Y

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 021 309 16
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  000 0148
   Serial number: 3510001A72319DB1A483

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 020 609 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  000 0148
   Serial number: 3520001B72285311F37X

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 020 710 16
   Component: FrontSensor_D  000 0189
   Serial number: 3550001A92285325341P

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 020 710 16
   Component: FrontSensor_P  000 0189
   Serial number: 3560001A9228532535D$

1 Fault Found:
9442836 - Front Passenger's Airbag Disabled Indicator Lamp
          B1016 14 [10001000] - Open or Short to Ground
          MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 119225 km
                    Date: 2024.06.16.
                    Time: 10:02:22


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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5C6 920 976 D    HW: 5C6 920 976 D
   Component: KOMBI         H02 1104
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 221A010000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00320
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05733
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
   VCID: 333310565BB2E632921-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
   Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 190
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H81 0744
   Revision: B8081001  
   Coding: 102201
   Shop #: WSC 01799 002 104857
   VCID: 6889B73A527455EAF73-803C

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.02.25.
                    Time: 00:00:01


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H02 1104
   Serial number:              
   Coding: 000007
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00320
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW23.rod
   VCID: 6A8DCD324CF867FAE17-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5K0-905-861.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 905 861 D    HW: 5K0 905 861 D
   Component: ELV-PQ35      H22 0240
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 16000162853005
   Coding: 4900000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00320
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X A01001
   ROD: EV_ELVMarquMPVW36X_VW32.rod
   VCID: 313F1A5EA1AED422E0D-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change (J1086)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-686.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 686 B    HW: 5Q0 907 686 B
   Component: HRE_Master    H12 0071
   Serial number: 0417777367 Dataset Number: 5G9764V____ 0027
   Coding: 01011101
   Shop #: WSC 00066 790 00178
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HREntryHella 001028
   ROD: EV_HREntryHella_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3C213B6A76EC294A43B-8068

   Lane change assistance control module 2:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 907 685 B    HW: 5Q0 907 685 B
   Component: HRE_Slave  H12 0071
   Serial number: 0417063190        
   Coding: 010111

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 305    3501
   Revision: 00H22000  
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 392F227E755E1C6258D-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 035 200 C    HW: 5C0 035 200 C
   Component: MU-S-S-US     H32 0363
   Serial number: VWZAZ2U1607789 Dataset Number: V03935263MC 0001
   Coding: 02630100AA00000051220001001808009F0100D40020010002
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW32.rod
   VCID: 1577CECE350618029C5-8040

4 Faults Found:
0020 - Tuner for Satellite Radio
          B11CF 53 [00001001] - Deactivated
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 106
                    Mileage: 111330 km
                    Date: 2023.10.05.
                    Time: 12:01:06

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.5 V
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Satellite radio antenna status: electrically OK
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Channel selection for satellite radio: 0
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Audio Signal: Not available
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Antenna current: 0 mA
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Reception quality: No_signal
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Satellite radio tuner: pre-activation status: 00
                    SDARS_tuner_status_2-Satellite radio tuner: pre-activation value: 00

0516 - Connection to Rear Right Loudspeakers
          B110B F0 [00001000] - Cross-Coupled
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 121550 km
                    Date: 2024.08.16.
                    Time: 00:34:31

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.1 V

0521 - Connection to Front Right Loudspeakers
          B110A F0 [00001000] - Cross-Coupled
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 121550 km
                    Date: 2024.08.16.
                    Time: 00:34:31

                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.1 V

6145 - Display and Control Head 1 for Information Electronics
          B129E 07 [00001000] - Mechanical Failure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Mileage: 121576 km
                    Date: 2024.08.16.
                    Time: 07:28:26

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.8 V


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Address 75: Telematics (J949)       Labels:| 12E-035-284.clb
   Part No SW: 561 035 285 A    HW: 561 035 285 A
   Component: OCULowUSA     020 0160
   Serial number: 000003554140555 Dataset Number: V03935214WB 0001
   Coding: 02630102C21632107F1606C00000
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_OCULow 002010
   ROD: EV_OCULow_002.rod
   VCID: 1471B3CA3EFC010AEBB-8040

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:31, VBatt start/end: 14.0V/13.8V)-----------

 

[stefdds]

The radio seems hot.

Why do you say that?


401 degrees Fahrenheit (wow). I'm not sure if that is actual temp. or not. If it is, I think you need a new unit.

Display and Control Head 1 for Information Electronics
B129E 07 [00001000] - Mechanical Failure
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

• It would shut down at times.
• It can become unresponsive.

Sounds like its failing.

This is regular on air FM AM stations or are you/she talking about sirius xm radio??

 

[Uwe]

205 °C

Connection to Rear Right Loudspeakers B110B F0 [00001000] - Cross-Coupled

Connection to Front Right Loudspeakers B110A F0 [00001000] - Cross-Coupled

Any mods to the audio components in this car?

-Uwe-

 

[AINils]

As MMX is a processor in these MIB2 crap preh units, I think it's not normal if it heat up to 205°C

 

[NEtech]

As MMX is a processor in these MIB2 crap preh units, I think it's not normal if it heat up to 205°C

Yes I have several logs.
This is from Uwe's Golf R

IDE06516-MAS01424,Temperature: optical drive-max.value,205, °C
IDE06516-MAS01425,Temperature: optical drive-min.value,205, °C
IDE06516-MAS02238,Temperature: optical drive-Current,205, °C
IDE06517-MAS01424,Temperature: audio amplifier-max.value,205, °C
IDE06517-MAS01425,Temperature: audio amplifier-min.value,205, °C
IDE06517-MAS02238,Temperature: audio amplifier-Current,205, °C
IDE06519-MAS01424,Temperature of MOST transceiver-max.value,75, °C
IDE06519-MAS01425,Temperature of MOST transceiver-min.value,-2, °C
IDE06519-MAS02238,Temperature of MOST transceiver-Current,47, °C
IDE06521-MAS01424,Temperature of MMX PC boards-max.value,205, °C
IDE06521-MAS01425,Temperature of MMX PC boards-min.value,205, °C
IDE06521-MAS02238,Temperature of MMX PC boards-Current,205, °C

 

[AINils]

I have to of these Units at home for my Test Station. I will Check this, also my MIB2 High and MIB3 of my friend.... Can't believe this normal ...
If I remember correctly they use J5 Jacinto as MMX. Maybe can find some information about it.

Otherwise MIN & MAX have the same thrashold, maybe just a value as placeholder, because this value isnt used by Main unit

 

[Zenerdiode]

205°C - that’ll cause your skin to stick to it.

@jakedrakeblake @NEtech,

Do you have a thermal camera?

 

[NEtech]

Yes, but Uwe has the car.
And it was in Dec. 2019