I've bought parts from Amazon many times with success.
-Uwe-
There's always the exception that proves the rule!I've bought parts from Amazon many times with success.
Can't rule out the possibility. For example, if the ECU kept the heater circuit on continuously, I'd imagine that would be bad for the sensor. Normally it's supplied with a readily discernible duty cycle.Is it possible that a malfunctioning ECU could "kill" or ruin an oxygen sensor?
Can't rule out the possibility. For example, if the ECU kept the heater circuit on continuously, I'd imagine that would be bad for the sensor. Normally it's supplied with a readily discernible duty cycle.
However, far more common is the opposite scenario, where a short in the oxygen sensor wiring takes out the ECU. Specifically of the +12V feeding the heater shorts to the signal going back to the ECU, which is connected to an analog-to-digital converter chip that has a maximum input voltage of 5V, that chip ends up fried.
-Uwe-
Wednesday,04,September,2024,16:48:57:42314
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 24.7.0.0 (x64)
Data version: 20240715 DS356.3
www.Ross-Tech.com
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Address 01: Engine (4D0 907 560 CN)
16:48:54 Group 036: Lambda Control (Sensor Readiness - After Catalyst)
0.520 V Sensor Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 2
B1-S2 OK Result Lambda Availability
0.450 V Sensor Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 2
Test OFF Result Lambda Availability
16:48:54 Group 030: Lambda Control (Sensor Status)
111 Bank 1 Sensor 1
111 Bank 1 Sensor 2
111 Bank 2 Sensor 1
100 Bank 2 Sensor 2
16:48:54 Group 042: Lambda Control (Lambda Sensor Heating Bank 2)
0.30 kOhm Resistance Bank 2 Sensor 1
Htg. S1 OFF Heater Condition Bank 2 Sensor 1
25.50 kOhm Resistance Bank 2 Sensor 2
Htg. S2 OFF Heater Condition Bank 2 Sensor 2
What would the symptoms be if that chip gets fried? Heater circuit not working?Can't rule out the possibility. For example, if the ECU kept the heater circuit on continuously, I'd imagine that would be bad for the sensor. Normally it's supplied with a readily discernible duty cycle.
However, far more common is the opposite scenario, where a short in the oxygen sensor wiring takes out the ECU. Specifically of the +12V feeding the heater shorts to the signal going back to the ECU, which is connected to an analog-to-digital converter chip that has a maximum input voltage of 5V, that chip ends up fried.
-Uwe-
Most often, an complete lack of response to the accelerator pedal, since it apparently is read using the same chip in the ECU.What would the symptoms be if that chip gets fried? Heater circuit not working?
Thursday,12,September,2024,19:36:48:42314
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 24.7.0.0 (x64)
Data version: 20240715 DS356.3
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: WAUXU64B43N116243 License Plate:
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Chassis Type: 4B (4B - Audi A6/S6/RS6/allroad C5 (1998 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 06 08 15 16 17 18 22 34 35 36 37 45 55 56 57 65 67
75 76 77
VIN: WAUXU64B43N116243
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 077-907-559-ANK.clb
Part No: 4D0 907 560 CN
Component: 4.2L V8/5V G 0001
Coding: 06752
Shop #: WSC 24253
VCID: 74E783CC441E6536D7-515E
WAUXU64B43N116243 AUZ7Z0C2391716
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0001
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01L-927-156.lbl
Part No: 4B0 927 156 FH
Component: AG5 01L 4.2l5V USA 1314
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 02334
VCID: 72EB85D43E0A6B06C5-5140
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4B0-614-517.lbl
Part No: 4B0 614 517 E
Component: ABS/ESP allrad 3428
Coding: 06397
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: 2345B090B170B28EFE-5124
1 Fault Found:
01119 - Gear Recognition Signal
35-10 - - - Intermittent
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 4B0-820-043-MY2.lbl
Part No: 4B0 820 043 AR
Component: A6-Klimavollautomat 0208
Coding: 00010
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 6ADB9DB416DAA3C67D-2586
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 4B0-959-655-AI84.lbl
Part No: 4B0 959 655 Q
Component: Airbag 8.4EP 3001
Coding: 0000607
Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
VCID: 3E7361E46AD2FF66F1-5140
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4B0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 4B0 920 981 Q
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D12
Coding: 03283
Shop #: WSC 62859
VCID: 346743CC049E253617-515E
WAUXU64B43N116243 AUZ7Z0C2391716
1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio
49-00 - No Communications
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Address 35: Centr. Locks Labels:. 4B0-962-258.clb
Part No: 4B0 962 258 M
Component: Central Lock/Alarm D38
Coding: 15977
Shop #: WSC 02334
VCID: 336540D00190220E0E-4F06
3 Faults Found:
01559 - Drivers Door
59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent
01561 - Rear left door
59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent
01562 - Rear right door
59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent
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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: None
Part No: 4B0 959 760 B
Component: Sitzmemory R1 F 0204
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 2C575BACDCAE7DF64F-4B00
No fault code found.
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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 4B0-919-887-BNS4.lbl
Part No: 4B0 919 887 E
Component: BNS 4.2 H05 BNO 0050
VCID: 35617EC80FE43C3E20-4AE8
No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
or a communication error occurred
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Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
Part No: 4Z7 907 357
Component: dynamische LWR D09
Coding: 00050
Shop #: WSC 02334
VCID: 0407D30C14BE55B6E7-4B4C
No fault code found.
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 06:05)--------------------------
Show us the Readiness screens please, both in native VAG mode, and in OBD-II mode.However, the downside is that there are three readiness tests that still haven't passed without any faults. Any idea what scenario could cause this? Or do I need to keep driving it? Which I'm happy to do...
Readiness Status: 0110 0001
Exhaust Gas Recirculation: Passed
Oxygen Sensor Heating: Failed or Incomplete
Oxygen Sensor(s): Failed or Incomplete
Air Conditioning: Passed
Secondary Air Injection: Passed
Evaporative Emissions: Passed
Catalyst Heating: Passed
Catalytic Converter(s): Failed or Incomplete
Number of DTCs stored 0 - MIL status: MIL off
Misfire monitoring: Passed
Fuel System: Passed
Comprehensive Components: Passed
Catalyst monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Heated Catalyst monitoring: Not installed
Evaporative System monitoring: Passed
Secondary air system monitoring: Passed
A/C system refrigerant monitoring: Not installed
Oxygen sensor monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Oxygen sensor heater monitoring: Failed or Incomplete
Exhaust gas recirculation: Not installed
Address 01: Engine (4D0 907 560 CN)
10:25:11 Group 036: Lambda Control (Sensor Readiness - After Catalyst)
0.160 V Sensor Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 2
B1-S2 OK Result Lambda Availability
0.440 V Sensor Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 2
Test OFF Result Lambda Availability
10:25:11 Group 047: Lambda Control (Catalytic Conversion Test Bank 2)
640 /min Engine Speed (G28)
460.0°C Catalytic Converter Bank 2 Temp.
0.00 Catalytic Conversion Bank 2
Test OFF Cat. Conversion Test Bank 2
10:25:11 Group 044: Lambda Control (Aging Check: Bank 2 Sensor 2)
680 /min Engine Speed (G28)
460.0°C Catalytic Converter Bank 2 Temp.
0.440 V Lambda Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 1
Test OFF Lambda Sensor Aging Test B2S2
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Address 01: Engine (4D0 907 560 CN)
10:30:13 Group 044: Lambda Control (Aging Check: Bank 2 Sensor 2)
680 /min Engine Speed (G28)
405.0°C Catalytic Converter Bank 2 Temp.
0.440 V Lambda Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 1
Test OFF Lambda Sensor Aging Test B2S2
10:30:13 Group 046: Lambda Control (Catalytic Conversion Test Bank 1)
680 /min Engine Speed (G28)
405.0°C Catalytic Converter Bank 1 Temp.
0.11 Catalytic Conversion Bank 1
Cat B1 OK Cat. Conversion Test Bank 1
10:30:13 Group 047: Lambda Control (Catalytic Conversion Test Bank 2)
680 /min Engine Speed (G28)
405.0°C Catalytic Converter Bank 2 Temp.
0.00 Catalytic Conversion Bank 2
Test OFF Cat. Conversion Test Bank 2
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Address 01: Engine (4D0 907 560 CN)
10:30:37 Group 044: Lambda Control (Aging Check: Bank 2 Sensor 2)
680 /min Engine Speed (G28)
380.0°C Catalytic Converter Bank 2 Temp.
0.440 V Lambda Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 1
Test OFF Lambda Sensor Aging Test B2S2
10:30:37 Group 030: Lambda Control (Sensor Status)
111 Bank 1 Sensor 1
111 Bank 1 Sensor 2
111 Bank 2 Sensor 1
100 Bank 2 Sensor 2
10:30:37 Group 047: Lambda Control (Catalytic Conversion Test Bank 2)
680 /min Engine Speed (G28)
380.0°C Catalytic Converter Bank 2 Temp.
0.00 Catalytic Conversion Bank 2
Test OFF Cat. Conversion Test Bank 2
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Address 01: Engine (4D0 907 560 CN)
10:42:01 Group 044: Lambda Control (Aging Check: Bank 2 Sensor 2)
760 /min Engine Speed (G28)
300.0°C Catalytic Converter Bank 2 Temp.
0.435 V Lambda Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 1
Test OFF Lambda Sensor Aging Test B2S2
10:42:01 Group 046: Lambda Control (Catalytic Conversion Test Bank 1)
760 /min Engine Speed (G28)
300.0°C Catalytic Converter Bank 1 Temp.
0.11 Catalytic Conversion Bank 1
Cat B1 OK Cat. Conversion Test Bank 1
10:42:01 Group 047: Lambda Control (Catalytic Conversion Test Bank 2)
760 /min Engine Speed (G28)
300.0°C Catalytic Converter Bank 2 Temp.
0.00 Catalytic Conversion Bank 2
Test OFF Cat. Conversion Test Bank 2
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Address 01: Engine (4D0 907 560 CN)
10:42:16 Group 046: Lambda Control (Catalytic Conversion Test Bank 1)
760 /min Engine Speed (G28)
295.0°C Catalytic Converter Bank 1 Temp.
0.11 Catalytic Conversion Bank 1
Cat B1 OK Cat. Conversion Test Bank 1
10:42:16 Group 039: Lambda Control (Sensor Exchange)
5.17 g/s Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70)
0.690 V Sensor Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 2
0.435 V Sensor Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 2
Test OFF Result Sensor Exchange
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Address 01: Engine (4D0 907 560 CN)
10:46:04 Group 042: Lambda Control (Lambda Sensor Heating Bank 2)
0.20 kOhm Resistance Bank 2 Sensor 1
Htg. S1 ON Heater Condition Bank 2 Sensor 1
25.50 kOhm Resistance Bank 2 Sensor 2
Htg. S2 ON Heater Condition Bank 2 Sensor 2
10:46:04 Group 046: Lambda Control (Catalytic Conversion Test Bank 1)
680 /min Engine Speed (G28)
415.0°C Catalytic Converter Bank 1 Temp.
0.11 Catalytic Conversion Bank 1
Cat B1 OK Cat. Conversion Test Bank 1
10:46:04 Group 039: Lambda Control (Sensor Exchange)
6.42 g/s Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70)
0.485 V Sensor Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 2
0.435 V Sensor Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 2
Test OFF Result Sensor Exchange
Please be aware that ANY electrical parts from Amazon are more than likely to fail early or not work at all (properly)!whereas the two original boxes I bought from Amazon had a copyright of 2012. I'm sending the Amazon ones back as defective.
I can argue against your statement... as this is true with any auto parts supplier now-a-days, but that's for another forum. The two sensors I purchased from Amazon were new and unused but old, 2012. I ended up returning them as the RockAuto part was newer. I also bought a third sensor from my local Advance Auto, and while it is unused, it is also from 2012. I'll probably end up returning it.Please be aware that ANY electrical parts from Amazon are more than likely to fail early or not work at all (properly)!
There are countless posts on the forum with "fails" and counterfeit parts so, Beware!
Sometimes you just have to pay up!
I took some time yesterday to run the car around with VCDS to try to get some better data into what's going on. After 200+ miles, a fault code was finally thrown, and it was a new one.
I've bought parts from Amazon many times with success.
There's always the exception that proves the rule!
Quite annoying following this thread you clearly know best
These are the only new OEM, or close to OEM, parts you can find. The car is 20+ years old and the original true OEM aren't manufactured anymore. These are Bosch. Also, junkyards won't carry these parts as again, they're for a chassis that is over 20 years old. I'm not even sure it's legal to sell emissions-related equipment second-hand... I know you cannot legally sell used catalytic converters.How I read this is that a mickey mouse O2 will be good for 2 -300 miles - But I knew that anyway !!
You would do better with a genuine one from a scrap car - Of course Genuine is the way forward !!
I'm far from an expert but I would wager that the reason the cats (at least Bank 2) aren't entering test mode is due to the oxygen sensor not entering test mode... but that's a hunch. I have had the Oxygen Sensor Heaters monitors pass in the past... but in Virginia, we can pass emissions with only one monitor set to Not Ready... I can't pass with three. I triedThis ECU has an absolutely absurd number of Basic Settings related to getting Readiness set for the Oxygen Sensors and CATs. The catch is, they typically must be run in a specific sequence, and I don't have an documentation for that.
I assume you need Readiness set to pass an emissions test? I wonder if @EuroX might have an old Readiness cheat-sheet for this engine.
-Uwe-
Chassis Type: 4B (4B - Audi A6/S6/RS6/allroad C5 (1998 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 06 08 15 16 17 18 22 34 35 36 37 45 55 56 57 65 67
75 76 77
VIN: WAUXU64B43N116243
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 077-907-559-ANK.clb
Part No: 4D0 907 560 CN
Component: 4.2L V8/5V G 0001
Coding: 06752
Shop #: WSC 24253
VCID: 74E783CC441E6536D7-5140
WAUXU64B43N116243 AUZ7Z0C2391716
1 Fault Found:
16543 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B2 S2
P0159 - 35-00 - Response too Slow
Readiness: 0110 0001
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01L-927-156.lbl
Part No: 4B0 927 156 FH
Component: AG5 01L 4.2l5V USA 1314
Coding: 00002
Shop #: WSC 02334
VCID: 72EB85D43E0A6B06C5-515E
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4B0-614-517.lbl
Part No: 4B0 614 517 E
Component: ABS/ESP allrad 3428
Coding: 06397
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: 2345B090B170B28EFE-5140
1 Fault Found:
01119 - Gear Recognition Signal
35-10 - - - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 4B0-820-043-MY2.lbl
Part No: 4B0 820 043 AR
Component: A6-Klimavollautomat 0208
Coding: 00010
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 6ADB9DB416DAA3C67D-2580
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 4B0-959-655-AI84.lbl
Part No: 4B0 959 655 Q
Component: Airbag 8.4EP 3001
Coding: 0000607
Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
VCID: 3E7361E46AD2FF66F1-5140
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4B0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No: 4B0 920 981 Q
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. VDO D12
Coding: 03283
Shop #: WSC 62859
VCID: 346743CC049E253617-5140
WAUXU64B43N116243 AUZ7Z0C2391716
1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 35: Centr. Locks Labels:. 4B0-962-258.clb
Part No: 4B0 962 258 M
Component: Central Lock/Alarm D38
Coding: 15977
Shop #: WSC 02334
VCID: 336540D00190220E0E-4F06
3 Faults Found:
01559 - Drivers Door
59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent
01561 - Rear left door
59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent
01562 - Rear right door
59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: None
Part No: 4B0 959 760 B
Component: Sitzmemory R1 F 0204
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 2C575BACDCAE7DF64F-4B00
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation Labels: 4B0-919-887-BNS4.lbl
Part No: 4B0 919 887 E
Component: BNS 4.2 H05 BNO 0050
VCID: 35617EC80FE43C3E20-4AE8
1 Fault Found:
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error
00-00 - -
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
Part No: 4Z7 907 357
Component: dynamische LWR D09
Coding: 00050
Shop #: WSC 02334
VCID: 0407D30C14BE55B6E7-4B4C
No fault code found.
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 05:27)--------------------------
n Virginia, we can pass emissions with only one monitor set to Not Ready... I can't pass with three. I tried
1 Fault Found: 16543 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B2 S2 P0159 - 35-00 - Response too Slow