ECM software update from HELL!

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TSB from aftermarket repair info ProDemand

Group 01, No 04-04 Engine, Hot Restart Software Update. Pub. Date 2004-03-10

TSB states software coding update too: 0006 for ECM part# 022 906 032 CS


This is my ECM part # 022 906 032 CS
Dealer tells me TSB does not exist?
Dealer tells me they can update to the most currant level.

I tell them to do it.
My original software level was 0004 before sending to dealer.
(If anyone wants the auto scans before dealer ask I will post it.)

Dealer tries to do update and fried the ECM wants almost a $1,000.00 to replace it.

I go over and talk to them. They actually bring the tech out to speak to me. The tech tells me he doesn’t know what happened?
But he makes the mistake of telling me while updating a screen popped up saying
“Fault Message” with two options “Repeat” or “Cancel”
He hit “Cancel”

I show him the TSB and it clearly states:

“Note: If, during the “Update-Programming”, a fault message is displayed:”

(There is a fig 7 that shows the fault message screen with two options Repeat or Cancel)

“Confirm that VAS 5051 or VAS 5052 diagnostic tool power supply is adequate and that ALL appliances with high electromagnetic radiation (i.e. mobile phones) are switched OFF.
“The Update-Programming” (flashing) process must then be started from the beginning using the “Repeat” button. DO NOT use the “Cancel” button”

Just below is an “!” Note.

“! IMPORTANT: On NO occasion should the “Cancel” button be selected.”


So the reason the tech fried the ECM is in this own words “I hit the cancel option”

So after pointing this all out to the service adviser and the tech they are speechless to say the least. The look on their faces was priceless!

They tell me they will have to look into this and get back to me. So I left, car is still there.

Next day I get a call cars is done come get it. I go.

I then get introduced to a gentleman in a suit with some authority. Who takes me into his office and tells me they replaced the ECM and it is updated to the latest Ver. The cost is $100.00 for the update, no charge for the ECM.

I ask was it a new ECM or used ECM? His answer is “I don’t know?”
Then the fight starts!!!! You can’t tell me what was done. You fried my original ECM don’t say your sorry or anything. But you want me to pay you. I insist they let me scan the car and check that it is all good. After scanning car I find the update is not 006 I calmly freak out.

Well after the fight I got the car at no charge but still have no idea if it’s the original ECM, new ECM or a used ECM.

Car now runs but software update is 0005
Original was 0004
TSB for the warm stall say’s it should me 0006
And Yes the car still has the warm stall it did not fix the original problem!


The car runs great! No Codes, Fuel trims are good, all Readiness set.
Get the car hot let it sit for 20 Min. ant start up it stumbles, low RPM’s and wants to stall but doesn’t actually stall. No misfires at time you restart. Just feels like it needs a higher RPM. and feels like it will stall.

So sorry for the LONG POST! But it’s a hell of a story…

But my questions are:

Is this the latest and greatest software level 0005? Or is the dealer lying to me?

Why does the TSB say it should be 0006 if it’s not?

Will the currant update at 0006 actually fix the warm stall if I get it?

What is the latest and greatest update level?

If updated to the latest ver. Does it have all older past updates included?


Car is:
2003 Jetta GLI
VR6 24 valve 2.8 liter. BDF engine code.
Std. trans.

I can see by shop# code change and the VCID:# change that the ECM was changed.
Used or New. I don’t know?

Without question I should have sent the ECM to Jack as I have in the past. It has just become a personal fight with me and the local dealer for a few years now to get updates.


In the end I believe Jack will end up doing the update.
But for the entire fellow member out there…
Jack is by far the easiest way to get these updates.
And if you think he’s over priced, read this again!
Pay jack and save your self a lot of pain and aggravation.

I just want to make them do it! It's personal to me!


Thank for your time.
Stan



Code:
Saturday,26,April,2014,10:49:23:46081
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0
Data version: 20140212


VIN: 3VWVH69M93M063197   License Plate: 
Mileage: 126240km-78441mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 9M (9M - VW Jetta IV (1998 > 2014))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57
          75 76
 
VIN: 3VWVH69M93M063197   Mileage: 126240km/78441miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 022-906-032-BDF.lbl
   Part No: 022 906 032 CS
   Component: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1G   0005  
   Coding: 00032
   Shop #: WSC 44626  
   VCID: 5EB81236DA8394EEC9B-5102
   3VWVH69M93M063197     VWZ7Z0B5645619

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0001

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 M
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102  
   Coding: 0019970
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 346C909E548F6EBE4FF-5102

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
   Component: 04 AIRBAG VW61 0202 0001  
   Coding: 12340
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 275677D2C5591526FAD-50C8

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 920 906 J
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V11  
   Coding: 07234
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 2F669FF2EDA94D6632D-50E6
   3VWVH69M93M063197     VWZ7Z0B5645619

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: F0E4DC8EB017929EEB7-5102

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
   Component: 1H Komfortgerát HLO 0003  
   Coding: 00258
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 3776A79215F985A66AD-4ACE

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0004  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0004  

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0004  

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0004  

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 3B7 035 180 
   Component: RADIO 3CP          D002  
   Coding: 00031
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: DDBA953A57850FF6501-50C8

No fault code found.

End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
 
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I can help and most likely recover the prior ecu "Stan Lee Marvel Comics" ......and do the update.

I would love to know at what address it failed?

In the future be advised............ try this first via VCDS, for the old VR6 BDF with early update.

0x01-10-001 change value to 00134 from 00128 and raise idle manually.

Cars with update may have the hole closed for ADP.

WILD CARD!
Also be aware of AUX vacuum pump/lines on these engines for idle discrepancies caused.
Best to isolate and make sure the ADP is within spec in VCDS Basic setting 04 before engine is operated and that the booster isn't leaking into the car at seal of pedal area!



Interesting: Attempt to extort for ones follies @ 1000 USD.......Pay fine of 100 USD, go directly to jail........ do not pass go, do not collect 200 USD......... still get no update and a pile to shovel still!

Boy something stinks!:p
 
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TSB from aftermarket repair info ProDemand

Group 01, No 04-04 Engine, Hot Restart Software Update. Pub. Date 2004-03-10

TSB states software coding update too: 0006 for ECM part# 022 906 032 CS


This is my ECM part # 022 906 032 CS
Dealer tells me TSB does not exist?
Dealer tells me they can update to the most currant level.

But my questions are:

Is this the latest and greatest software level 0005? Or is the dealer lying to me?

Why does the TSB say it should be 0006 if it’s not?

Will the currant update at 0006 actually fix the warm stall if I get it?

What is the latest and greatest update level?

If updated to the latest ver. Does it have all older past updates included?
Code:
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 022-906-032-BDF.lbl
   Part No: 022 906 032 CS
   Component: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1G   0005  
   Coding: 00032
   Shop #: WSC 44626  
   VCID: 5EB81236DA8394EEC9B-5102
   3VWVH69M93M063197     VWZ7Z0B5645619
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0001
Hi Stan :)

I located 2 TSBs:
  1. TSB# 01-08-14 | TPI# 2017553/1
    Update Programming, MIL ON, DTCs P0420 and/or P0300 - P0306 Stored in ECM Fault Memory | Date Mar 27, 2008
  2. TSB# 01-08-22 | TPI# 2018669/3
    Update Programming, MIL ON, DTCs P0420 and or P0300-P0306 Stored in ECM Fault Memory | Date Dec 2, 2009
.. but i couldn't locate the one you posted. If you have the TPI format xxxxxx/revision number please post it and I'll search that.

According to the newest version of the Cat fault bulletin 022-906-032-CS stays at 022-906-032-CS with SWL 1482 using SVM code 3001. If Jack agrees he may be able to do that for you but I wonder if the dealer used online SVM online or a old flash update CD they had hiding somewhere?
-Dana
 
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P.S. I located a Jetta specific TSB (BDF is BDF in my book - but the ones above listed "Golf"?). The SW # and SWLs were identical with the exception of SVM code 3000 instead of 3001.

TSB# 01-08-14 | TPI# 2017553/1
01-08-14 - Update Programming, MIL ON, DTCs P0420 and/or P0300 - P0306 Stored in ECM Fault Memory | Date Mar 27, 2008
 
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Thanks for the help so far!
I need some more time to digest what Dana asked.
Things have changed sense I posted, I will update tonight.
I do have to work and pay bills. LOL

Thanks
Good Luck
 
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Okay guys and girls. This just keeps getting better….

Got a chance to look the car over sense the dealer and my last post.

They installed an aftermarket ECM spray painted black in color. Not a used one. Not a new one. An aftermarket refurbished one from God knows where?

I wouldn’t install this crap for a customer ever! Unbelievable!

I didn’t get a chance to go over the car for a few days.
But what made me look today was the suit from the dealer called this morning. To apologize and inform me he ordered a new ECU and as soon as it arrives he will call to set up an appointment to have it installed and updated to the most currant level.

I was actually really shocked and could not figure out why the sudden change of heart!

Now I see they had no idea they were dealing with someone they couldn’t bulshit.
Proving in there own words they fried the ECM by hitting cancel, must of made them realize they “F” up big time. So they are trying to make it right before I sue or something.

This is NUTS! Could you imagine they’d try to pull this shit on a normal customer?



Jack,
What is the latest software ver. I should expect to see in an auto scan after they are done?
What # should I see?

Looking more closely at the car and raising the RPM as you suggested didn’t really make a difference. Car will only do it when it feels like it. About once out of every three hot restarts. So it’s hard to nail down.

This all came about with the customer searching the net and reading about this update.
Then when I actually saw one in ProDemand he decided this is the direction he wanted to go. So I tried to help and it all blew up big time.

But once today trying to raise RPM and get it hot and letting it sit 15 to 20 min. then restart. I actually had a miss fire on 2 & 4 when it stumbled for about 5 seconds with a total of 3 misfires per cyl. Then done, it runs great. Didn’t and never has stored a misfire code for me.

I can’t get the old ECU because they sent it out as a core.



Dana,
You are giving me way too much credit if you think I follow you.
I am not a VW or Audi dealer trained tech. I am a stupid coal cracker from PA.
Everything I know is self taught and learned the hard way. On my own and basically learning by breaking shit. I did take the Ross Tech introduction class you guy did in Lansdale a few years back if that counts. I could spend a week picking your brain! Can’t spell or type for shit either!

On demand Pro where I got the TSB is aftermarket repair info for all cars. Same as Mitchell OnDemand and Snap-on ShopKey. Similar to All Data.

I re-read the TSB and don’t see anything about “TPI format xxxxxx/revision number”
I don’t even know what TPI is? Sorry wish I did!

I can print the TSB but can’t copy or download it to post for you to read. OnDemand Pro doesn’t allow that or they’d be all over the net. Smart move on their part.



I think I figured out the TPI format #?


TSB# 01-08-14 | TPI# 2017553/1
01-08-14 - Update Programming, MIL ON, DTCs P0420 and/or P0300 - P0306 Stored in ECM Fault Memory | Date Mar 27, 2008

This info helped because I read this TSB. Again off ProDemand on my end.
And there is a # matching your “TPI# 2017553/1” it’s in “(2017553)” no “/1” at the end though.


There is no TPI # for the original TSB I opened the post with. Most likely totally out dated TSB is the reason. All I got is “Goup 01, NO 04-04 Date of issue: March 10, 2004”
Sorry there is no TPI#.


All of this is all a mute point now as things changed so much in the past few days

I just have to let dealer change this piece shit aftermarket ECM. With a new OE one and have them update to the latest software ver. As of today!!!!!!

So my big question for now is what currant level software should I see when they are done?
If I actually knew this level I would tell them what level I want exactly. I damn sure can’t trust them to do it right.

Thanks a lot!
Stan
 
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Nice OE dealer installed.

Tried to insert picture but didn't work.

I quess I can't use computer that well either!
 
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Thanks Jack! And Thanks Dana!

The TSB Dana posted agrees with Jack.

TSB# 01-08-14 | TPI# 2017553/1
01-08-14 - Update Programming, MIL ON, DTCs P0420 and/or P0300 - P0306 Stored in ECM Fault Memory | Date Mar 27, 2008

This seem to be the latest one Dated 3/27/08
It is also in ProDemand and I read it. Thanks again Dana!

It states:

Model, Year, Engine Code, Trans Code, Vin range from, Vin range to,
Jetta, 2002-2004, BDF (2.8L), All, All, All,


Model, Engine, Old software part#, Old software ver., New software part#, New software Ver. (or higher), SVM unit code,

Jetta, 2.8L, 022906032CS, All, 022906032CS, 1482, 3000,

So the answer is update ver. 1482 (In 1482 Columbus Sailed the Ocean Blue)

Dana teach me something: What does TPI# and SVM stand for?

I will post the end result after the Suit from the Dealer calls me and the OE ECM comes in and they update it.

Thanks A Lot!
Stan
 
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(In 1482 Columbus Sailed the Ocean Blue)
In fourteen hundred ninety-two
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He had three ships and left from Spain;
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He sailed by night; he sailed by day;
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So I can't spell, can't type, can't insert pic's, and I am off a decade in my history...

Thanks Uwe.
 
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TSB# 01-08-14 | TPI# 2017553/1
01-08-14 - Update Programming, MIL ON, DTCs P0420 and/or P0300 - P0306 Stored in ECM Fault Memory | Date Mar 27, 2008
Dana teach me something: What does TPI# and SVM stand for?
Hi Stan :)

I don't know if I have the spelling correct but TPI should be Technische Produkt Information (Technical Product Information).

VW revises bulletins with great regularity so one of the main advantages of using the TPI # is that the base number stays the same and they add a /for each time they need to revise it. 201755/1 for example is the 1st time they revised it (plain 201755 would be the first instance) but some get crazy like xxxxxxx/12!

SVM is Software Version Management, a system used by VW/Audi to flash update control modules, and in certain cases, to change their Coding, Adaptation and unlock Component Protection. TSB/TPIs list the 'SVM Unit Code' or 'SVM Code' so the dealer level tech knows what to type in when he/she is attempting to flash a controller or complete a recall update with the dealer tool connected to the database to phone home.

-Dana

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Okay ladies and gentleman,
I opened this post with an out dated 2004 TSB for a warm stall issue. TSB stated software updated to 0006

Dana & Dealer couldn’t locate the TSB and there is no TPI #

I sent to deal they fried the ECM doing the update by hitting cancel and not repeat.
They is stalled a cheap refurbished ECM but never updated it. After fighting it was given back at no charge.

My original software Ver. was 0004. After the dealer and cheap ECM the software Ver. was 0005.

I go to the dealer myself and talk to a suit. He runs the service and parts department at this dealership. He actually listens to me and I prove to him is his Tech’s own words he fried the ECM and it is still not updated to 0006.

Suit calls me 3 day’s later. Him and his Master Tech on a conference call. They tell me they will order a new OE ECM and update it while talking to V.W. tech support. He did give me 4 digit Ver. #.

However like the idiot I am I didn’t write it down and can’t remember the exact #.
(I can’t spell, I can’t type, I am off by a decade in my history, and I am getting to old remember shit! OLD AGE SUCKS!)

After the phone call it strikes me strange that it’s a 4 digit # and in the thousands?

I then post this asking what the latest and greatest software Ver. should be.
I, Jack and Dana all agree there is a TSB dated in 2008 with a Ver. 1482 this should be the latest one for the car.

Friday the car goes back to dealer but has to be dropped off by the customer not me. Their rules not mine. I did remove the plenum cover, wiper arms and put a note in a zip lock bag and taped it to the ECM. I didn’t trust them to remove plenum cover without breaking something and I didn’t want them to sneak it in without removing plenum cover.
Inside the zip lock bog was a note and a copy of the 2008 TSB stating the latest software Ver. 1482 or higher… And if there was a problem call me. If need be ask the suit for permission to call me.

No phone call all day and the customer picked up the car at the end of the day. There was no charge for anything! So far that’s all they have done right!

Saturday morning I get the car and scan the ECM and here is what I got…..


Code:
Friday,09,May,2014,17:09:00:46081
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0
Data version: 20140212


VIN: 3VWVH69M93M063197   License Plate: 
Mileage: 126490km-78597mi   Repair Order: 



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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chassis Type: 9M (9M - VW Jetta IV (1998 > 2014))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57
          75 76
 
VIN: 3VWVH69M93M063197   Mileage: 126490km/78597miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 022-906-032-BDF.lbl
   Part No: 022 906 032 CS
   Component: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1    0006  
   Coding: 00032
   Shop #: WSC 44626  
   VCID: 5EB81236DA8394EEC9B-5102
   3VWVH69M93M063197     VWZ7Z0B5645619

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0010 1001

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 M
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102  
   Coding: 0019970
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 346C909E548F6EBE4FF-50E6

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
   Component: 04 AIRBAG VW61 0202 0001  
   Coding: 12340
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 275677D2C5591526FAD-50E6

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 920 906 J
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V11  
   Coding: 07234
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 2F669FF2EDA94D6632D-50E6
   3VWVH69M93M063197     VWZ7Z0B5645619

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: F0E4DC8EB017929EEB7-50E6

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
   Component: 1H Komfortgerát HLO 0003  
   Coding: 00258
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 3776A79215F985A66AD-4ACE

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0004  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0004  

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0004  

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
   Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0004  

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 3B7 035 180 
   Component: RADIO 3CP          D002  
   Coding: 00031
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: DDBA953A57850FF6501-50E6

No fault code found.

End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
So the original TSB I opened this post with that Dana and the dealer couldn’t find seems to be what I got. Coding 006
Not the latest one dated 2008 with a coding of 1484

Group 01, No 04-04 Engine, Hot Restart Software Update. Pub. Date 2004-03-10
TSB states software coding update too: 0006 for ECM part# 022 906 032 CS

I would like everyone’s opinion on this…. Is it me?
What the hell am I doing wrong?

Uwe you jump right in and correct me for being a decade off in my history. So feel free to jump right in and tell me… If I am wrong! Please!

What I actually think happened was I sent for update and they fried the ECM.
They replaced the ECM with cheap local shit.
Realized they screwed up when I proved they fried the ECM.

They ordered one from V.W. and had it pre-programmed to 0006 before shipping it.

How else could they get this old update? First they couldn’t find it, Dana even said maybe if they had it in a drawer connecting dust for years.

I think they ordered it at 0006 and just installed it.
They wouldn’t update to 1884 because they are scared to fry another ECM.

This is absolutely NUTS! And I hope everyone realizes why this is personal to me.
I can not get the dealer to updates for years and when I actually do force them they can’t do it without screwing it up. Most of the time they tell me there are no updates available. Then when I prove it’s available this is what I get.

Dana Thanks for answering the questions!

Thanks everybody!
Good Luck
 
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I can do the update to 1482 if you like.......?

They just installed a new or used ecu with version 0006 already on it or updated the old one with an old flash disk.

What's advanced measuring blocks say if it is present to click on in KWP 2000?
 
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Finally convinced the customer to let me send the ECM to Jack.
Customer doesn't understand why I have to sent it to Jack for updates when the V.W. dealer should be able to do it.
I totally agree but that's how it is! I give up and I am not fighting with them anymore. Too much time and bulshit involved!
Customers biggest complaint is not having the car for a few days waiting for UPS turn around.

After removing the the brand new ECM the dealer replaced. The sticker on the ECM tells the story and truth.
The sticker has the date it was programed 07/08/14 and the software version 0006 printed right on it.
So they ordered it pre-programed and ignored my request to update to 1482. Because they are afraid to burn up another ECM
Here is a link to a picture as Dana suggested hope it works. http://imgur.com/jPImflO

Jack the advanced ID info is not present for me to click. But the ECM sticker tells the truth they never updated it.

ECM is sent off to Jack.

Thanks everyone!

Good Luck
 
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Weird date. European dates are usually day/month/year but, here that makes no sense without a time machine. Is the year listed first? Was it made August 14, 2007?
 
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I agree but this dealer may have a time machine. Because they act like they came from the stone age!!!

That's a question for Uwe he's the history buff.:p

I believe it's August 14, 2007 car is a 2003

Good Luck
 
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Yes a lot of Germans like to use YY-MM-DD. They find it practical because it allows for easy sorting of the data. However, I can't conclusively say that's what's going on there.

-Uwe-
 
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Unit came late today UPS......
Unit is at version 0006 and has never been programmed since the delivery of the unit.
Unit has been updated to version 1482 with success and will ship in morning ASAP with a coffee cup....:p
 
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