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Group 01, No 04-04 Engine, Hot Restart Software Update. Pub. Date 2004-03-10
TSB states software coding update too: 0006 for ECM part# 022 906 032 CS
This is my ECM part # 022 906 032 CS
Dealer tells me TSB does not exist?
Dealer tells me they can update to the most currant level.
I tell them to do it.
My original software level was 0004 before sending to dealer.
(If anyone wants the auto scans before dealer ask I will post it.)
Dealer tries to do update and fried the ECM wants almost a $1,000.00 to replace it.
I go over and talk to them. They actually bring the tech out to speak to me. The tech tells me he doesn’t know what happened?
But he makes the mistake of telling me while updating a screen popped up saying
“Fault Message” with two options “Repeat” or “Cancel”
He hit “Cancel”
I show him the TSB and it clearly states:
“Note: If, during the “Update-Programming”, a fault message is displayed:”
(There is a fig 7 that shows the fault message screen with two options Repeat or Cancel)
“Confirm that VAS 5051 or VAS 5052 diagnostic tool power supply is adequate and that ALL appliances with high electromagnetic radiation (i.e. mobile phones) are switched OFF.
“The Update-Programming” (flashing) process must then be started from the beginning using the “Repeat” button. DO NOT use the “Cancel” button”
Just below is an “!” Note.
“! IMPORTANT: On NO occasion should the “Cancel” button be selected.”
So the reason the tech fried the ECM is in this own words “I hit the cancel option”
So after pointing this all out to the service adviser and the tech they are speechless to say the least. The look on their faces was priceless!
They tell me they will have to look into this and get back to me. So I left, car is still there.
Next day I get a call cars is done come get it. I go.
I then get introduced to a gentleman in a suit with some authority. Who takes me into his office and tells me they replaced the ECM and it is updated to the latest Ver. The cost is $100.00 for the update, no charge for the ECM.
I ask was it a new ECM or used ECM? His answer is “I don’t know?”
Then the fight starts!!!! You can’t tell me what was done. You fried my original ECM don’t say your sorry or anything. But you want me to pay you. I insist they let me scan the car and check that it is all good. After scanning car I find the update is not 006 I calmly freak out.
Well after the fight I got the car at no charge but still have no idea if it’s the original ECM, new ECM or a used ECM.
Car now runs but software update is 0005
Original was 0004
TSB for the warm stall say’s it should me 0006
And Yes the car still has the warm stall it did not fix the original problem!
The car runs great! No Codes, Fuel trims are good, all Readiness set.
Get the car hot let it sit for 20 Min. ant start up it stumbles, low RPM’s and wants to stall but doesn’t actually stall. No misfires at time you restart. Just feels like it needs a higher RPM. and feels like it will stall.
So sorry for the LONG POST! But it’s a hell of a story…
But my questions are:
Is this the latest and greatest software level 0005? Or is the dealer lying to me?
Why does the TSB say it should be 0006 if it’s not?
Will the currant update at 0006 actually fix the warm stall if I get it?
What is the latest and greatest update level?
If updated to the latest ver. Does it have all older past updates included?
Car is:
2003 Jetta GLI
VR6 24 valve 2.8 liter. BDF engine code.
Std. trans.
I can see by shop# code change and the VCID:# change that the ECM was changed.
Used or New. I don’t know?
Without question I should have sent the ECM to Jack as I have in the past. It has just become a personal fight with me and the local dealer for a few years now to get updates.
In the end I believe Jack will end up doing the update.
But for the entire fellow member out there…
Jack is by far the easiest way to get these updates.
And if you think he’s over priced, read this again!
Pay jack and save your self a lot of pain and aggravation.
I just want to make them do it! It's personal to me!
Thank for your time.
Stan
Group 01, No 04-04 Engine, Hot Restart Software Update. Pub. Date 2004-03-10
TSB states software coding update too: 0006 for ECM part# 022 906 032 CS
This is my ECM part # 022 906 032 CS
Dealer tells me TSB does not exist?
Dealer tells me they can update to the most currant level.
I tell them to do it.
My original software level was 0004 before sending to dealer.
(If anyone wants the auto scans before dealer ask I will post it.)
Dealer tries to do update and fried the ECM wants almost a $1,000.00 to replace it.
I go over and talk to them. They actually bring the tech out to speak to me. The tech tells me he doesn’t know what happened?
But he makes the mistake of telling me while updating a screen popped up saying
“Fault Message” with two options “Repeat” or “Cancel”
He hit “Cancel”
I show him the TSB and it clearly states:
“Note: If, during the “Update-Programming”, a fault message is displayed:”
(There is a fig 7 that shows the fault message screen with two options Repeat or Cancel)
“Confirm that VAS 5051 or VAS 5052 diagnostic tool power supply is adequate and that ALL appliances with high electromagnetic radiation (i.e. mobile phones) are switched OFF.
“The Update-Programming” (flashing) process must then be started from the beginning using the “Repeat” button. DO NOT use the “Cancel” button”
Just below is an “!” Note.
“! IMPORTANT: On NO occasion should the “Cancel” button be selected.”
So the reason the tech fried the ECM is in this own words “I hit the cancel option”
So after pointing this all out to the service adviser and the tech they are speechless to say the least. The look on their faces was priceless!
They tell me they will have to look into this and get back to me. So I left, car is still there.
Next day I get a call cars is done come get it. I go.
I then get introduced to a gentleman in a suit with some authority. Who takes me into his office and tells me they replaced the ECM and it is updated to the latest Ver. The cost is $100.00 for the update, no charge for the ECM.
I ask was it a new ECM or used ECM? His answer is “I don’t know?”
Then the fight starts!!!! You can’t tell me what was done. You fried my original ECM don’t say your sorry or anything. But you want me to pay you. I insist they let me scan the car and check that it is all good. After scanning car I find the update is not 006 I calmly freak out.
Well after the fight I got the car at no charge but still have no idea if it’s the original ECM, new ECM or a used ECM.
Car now runs but software update is 0005
Original was 0004
TSB for the warm stall say’s it should me 0006
And Yes the car still has the warm stall it did not fix the original problem!
The car runs great! No Codes, Fuel trims are good, all Readiness set.
Get the car hot let it sit for 20 Min. ant start up it stumbles, low RPM’s and wants to stall but doesn’t actually stall. No misfires at time you restart. Just feels like it needs a higher RPM. and feels like it will stall.
So sorry for the LONG POST! But it’s a hell of a story…
But my questions are:
Is this the latest and greatest software level 0005? Or is the dealer lying to me?
Why does the TSB say it should be 0006 if it’s not?
Will the currant update at 0006 actually fix the warm stall if I get it?
What is the latest and greatest update level?
If updated to the latest ver. Does it have all older past updates included?
Car is:
2003 Jetta GLI
VR6 24 valve 2.8 liter. BDF engine code.
Std. trans.
I can see by shop# code change and the VCID:# change that the ECM was changed.
Used or New. I don’t know?
Without question I should have sent the ECM to Jack as I have in the past. It has just become a personal fight with me and the local dealer for a few years now to get updates.
In the end I believe Jack will end up doing the update.
But for the entire fellow member out there…
Jack is by far the easiest way to get these updates.
And if you think he’s over priced, read this again!
Pay jack and save your self a lot of pain and aggravation.
I just want to make them do it! It's personal to me!
Thank for your time.
Stan
Code:
Saturday,26,April,2014,10:49:23:46081
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 12.12.2.0
Data version: 20140212
VIN: 3VWVH69M93M063197 License Plate:
Mileage: 126240km-78441mi Repair Order:
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Chassis Type: 9M (9M - VW Jetta IV (1998 > 2014))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57
75 76
VIN: 3VWVH69M93M063197 Mileage: 126240km/78441miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 022-906-032-BDF.lbl
Part No: 022 906 032 CS
Component: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1G 0005
Coding: 00032
Shop #: WSC 44626
VCID: 5EB81236DA8394EEC9B-5102
3VWVH69M93M063197 VWZ7Z0B5645619
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0001
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
Part No: 1C0 907 379 M
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0102
Coding: 0019970
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
VCID: 346C909E548F6EBE4FF-5102
No fault code found.
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 1C0 909 605 F
Component: 04 AIRBAG VW61 0202 0001
Coding: 12340
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: 275677D2C5591526FAD-50C8
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
Part No: 1J0 920 906 J
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V11
Coding: 07234
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 2F669FF2EDA94D6632D-50E6
3VWVH69M93M063197 VWZ7Z0B5645619
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: F0E4DC8EB017929EEB7-5102
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
Component: 1H Komfortgerát HLO 0003
Coding: 00258
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: 3776A79215F985A66AD-4ACE
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0004
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0004
Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0004
Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
Component: 1H Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0004
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 3B7 035 180
Component: RADIO 3CP D002
Coding: 00031
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: DDBA953A57850FF6501-50C8
No fault code found.
End ---------------------------------------------------------------------
