1998 galaxy/sharan 1.9tdi egr config

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Hi all my first post.

I have a mk1 galaxy and i bought a kkl 409.1 dumb K connector and installed VCDS lite just to test and all good but is really limited, i can´t do what I wanted.


I saw a guy on the tube that did a config that is basically an EGR delete. So he does:

01-engine
login-11
enter code 12233
adaptation-10
select the EGR option
new value 33768


He is using the HEX-V2 cable and vcds 20.4.0
I wonder if i buy the same HEX-V2 and the newest VCDS version i can apply this config to my mk1 Galaxy?

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I saw a guy on the tube that did a config that is basically an EGR delete. So he does:

01-engine
login-11
enter code 12233
adaptation-10
select the EGR option
new value 33768
That is not a delete. That only reduces the EGR flow some.

I wonder if i buy the same HEX-V2 and the newest VCDS version i can apply this config to my mk1 Galaxy?
Yes, you can do that with a HEX-V2 and the full version of VCDS, but on your vehicle, you should also be able to do it with the registered / licensed version of VCDS-Lite.

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That is not a delete. That only reduces the EGR flow some.


Yes, you can do that with a HEX-V2 and the full version of VCDS, but on your vehicle, you should also be able to do it with the registered / licensed version of VCDS-Lite.

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thank you so much for the reply.

Is there a number for the full delete? I physically removed it already.

registered VCDS-Lite and the K 409.1 or do I need the HEX-V2?

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Is there a number for the full delete? I physically removed it already.
No, the software in the ECU has limits on what values that channel will accept and IIRC, the default value in that channel is 32768 and 33768 is right the limit. If you have physically removed it and don't have any kind of warning lights (feasible on some European ECUs of that vintage), then you don't need to do anything more.

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No, the software in the ECU has limits on what values that channel will accept and IIRC, the default value in that channel is 32768 and 33768 is right the limit. If you have physically removed it and don't have any kind of warning lights (feasible on some European ECUs of that vintage), then you don't need to do anything more.

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Thank you for the reply.

I do not have warning lights, I did have disconected the vacuum line for the turbo actuator just for the sake of testing the EGR removal and I get a limp over 100kms/h. I read that at those speeds the ECU comands the MAF to 40% open and the 60% would be gases from the EGR, thus the limp. My objective is to let the MAF open all the time, if this is possible.

I will register my VCDS-Lite, but just to confirm, do I need the HEX-V2 to perform these changes?

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I will register my VCDS-Lite, but just to confirm, do I need the HEX-V2 to perform these changes?
I don't think so, but post data from your engine, please. Use Auto-Scan in Shareware mode. It won't do all the modules in your car, but will show the first two or three.

Also, I need to repeat myself: I do not think the proposed change will fix your problem. If you have issues with no EGR, you will need to talk to a tuner.

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I don't think so, but post data from your engine, please. Use Auto-Scan in Shareware mode. It won't do all the modules in your car, but will show the first two or three.

Also, I need to repeat myself: I do not think the proposed change will fix your problem. If you have issues with no EGR, you will need to talk to a tuner.

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Hi,

As requested, here is the data from Auto-Scan:

Code:
VCDS-Lite Version: Release 1.2
Thursday, 25 July 2024, 22:58:11.




Chassis Type: FG - Ford Galaxy
Scan: 25,01,02,03,08,09,15,16,17,18,19,22,29,35,36,37,39,45,55,56,76
 
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Address 25: Immobilizer       Labels: 7M0-953-257.LBL
   Controller: 7M0 953 257 K
   Component: V31 VA1 98V BA 3 3     
   Coding: 09600
   Shop #: WSC 00000
   VCID: 3E0FBDFB296F
1 Fault Found:
01176 -  Key
            65-10 -  Unauthorized - Intermittent


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Address 01: Engine       Labels: 028-906-021-AHU.LBL
   Controller: 028 906 021 HB
   Component: 1,9l R4 EDC   00AG  1907
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 00020
   VCID: 56DF055BA11F
5 Faults Found:
17978 -  Engine Start Blocked by Immobilizer
            P1570 - 35-10 -   - - Intermittent
00542 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
            27-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent
00575 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
            17-10 - Please Register/Activate - Intermittent
00553 -  Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70)
            31-10 -  Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
01237 - Shareware Version. To Decode all DTCs
            04-00 - Please Register/Activate
Readiness: N/A


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC       Labels: 7M0-907-040.LBL
   Controller: 7M0 907 040 AH
   Component: CLIMATRONIC MPV    V108
   Coding: 00013
   Shop #: WSC 00020
   VCID: 719556C728B1
No fault code found.
 
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Hi,

As requested, here is the data from Auto-Scan:


That is an edited Manipulated hence a dishonest scan from a dishonest poster !!

Can I see the Invoice for the device you are using to post please Phone - Tablet - PC or is that stolen too ??


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My objective is to let the MAF open all the time, if this is possible.

MAf is a sensor not your prayer mates wife. The Rosstech forum ? Which is open all the time !!
 
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That is an edited Manipulated hence a dishonest scan from a dishonest poster !!

Can I see the Invoice for the device you are using to post please Phone - Tablet - PC or is that stolen too ??


The Irony ,
Why would you write that? Who hurt you?
 
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I wish it was open all the time, but is not the case. I have limp over 3000rpm or 100kms/h WITHOUT turbo, by choice.

You talking about you car or your mates wife there ?

I like a turbo tear a55 :banghead: :banghead: :facepalm::facepalm::banghead::banghead:
 
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That is an edited Manipulated hence a dishonest scan from a dishonest poster !!
Nah, he's stated he's currently using the free shareware version of VCDS-Lite and the car is old enough (1998) to qualify for "Classic" plates in most US states.

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As requested, here is the data from Auto-Scan:
Wow, it's been a while since I've seen a scan from a 1Z/AHU type engine.

IIRC, those only have 8-bit adaptation channels, not 16-bits. But in any case, the fault codes indicate you have other problems to solve than just EGR.

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Wow, it's been a while since I've seen a scan from a 1Z/AHU type engine.

IIRC, those only have 8-bit adaptation channels, not 16-bits. But in any case, the fault codes indicate you have other problems to solve than just EGR.

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Those were built here in AutoEuropa the galaxys/sharans/alha

This one might be the MAF twist i've done but no impact, I can revert it.
Code:
00553 -  Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70)
            31-10 -  Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
 
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I got it ok? I just want to reduce the EGR impact on the engine
Easiest fix?. Just get a blanking plate :). That way the EGR gunk won't enter your engine and the engine thinks the EGR is working as it should.
 
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Easiest fix?. Just get a blanking plate :). That way the EGR gunk won't enter your engine and the engine thinks the EGR is working as it should.
As i posted before, I have physically removed the EGR out of the equation, blanking plate and everything.

It looks like the engine thinks the EGR is working as it should, but is just a feeling.

When I disconected the vacuum line for the turbo control vacuum actuator the engine is now atmosferic. Testing on highway you get a limp over 3.000 rpm or 100km/h because, the ECU is telling the MAF to open just 40% and the 60% would be EGR gases. But there is no EGR anymore!

So we end with an limp engine geting only 40% air from the air intake. Ofc with turbo you don't notice this, the turbo makes it for the 60% but the engine will not be at top performance. This will be true to all TDI VAG engines.
 
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