Audi A4 ABS Coding

[Jef]

Steer Angle -2.5°

IMHO, that is a default value for a failed G85. I've not seen official documentation stating that, but I've seen a lot of failed G85s stuck on -2.5°. And ABS coding is locked in when a proper G85 relearn is performed... so a bad G85 means ABS coding doesn't get locked in.

 

[TrekyBob]

Thanks, it is a tough one when the scan on the steering module says NFF. Looks like I'll have to take it to the workshop for this one, probobably they'll want a grand to replace it, hmm might not be worth it....anyway I appreciate the support which is really great and I have to say the forum works well, again thanks.

 

[Jef]

8E0 953 541 E

That is the part number.... NIB it doesn't look to be a cheap part. Installing it isn't that bad of a job, remove driver's airbag, remove steering wheel, remote trim... swap out part.

 

[NEtech]

You should also enter some WSC numbers in VCDS:

First:
[Options]
[User Interface and Identification]
write numbers for wsc, importer, device no.
For example 02345 223 23456
[Save]
[Close VCDS]
Start VCDS

 

[TrekyBob]

I pulled the clock spring out, any way to test it? I have another and can swap them. Do you mean the steering or the ABS controller that I should try the WSC options?
The Audi shop ino...they seem to only want to do warranty work, I don't blame them as they for sure make more money.

 

[PetrolDave]

The Audi shop ino...they seem to only want to do warranty work, I don't blame them as they for sure make more money.

I always thought that warranty work was paid at a lower hourly rate than customer funded work (often at a fixed total cost meaning the job had to be rushed) - at least that's what my cousins who have been motor mechanics have always told me!

 

[TrekyBob]

swapped the clock springs, still stuck on -2.5°
any other ideas would be appreciated thanks to all so far.

 

[TrekyBob]

Changed clock spring , still get this as well the steelring angle remains locked at -2.5°
Fault codes
Thursday,11,July,2024,12:03:36:30198
VCDS Version: Release 24.5.0 (x64) Running on Windows 11 x64
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-517.LBL
Control Module Part Number: 8E0 614 517 A
Component and/or Version: ABS/ESP allrad 1726
Software Coding: 04495
Work Shop Code: WSC 63251
VCID: 2614F08451E0525A0DF-51F2
3 Faults Found:

18256 - Please check DTC Memory of Engine Controller
P1848 - 35-10 - - Intermittent
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
66-10 - Not Matched - Intermittent
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
35-00 - -

 

[TrekyBob]

Changed clock spring , still get this as well the steelring angle remains locked at -2.5°
Fault codes
Thursday,11,July,2024,12:03:36:30198
VCDS Version: Release 24.5.0 (x64) Running on Windows 11 x64
www.Ross-Tech.com

Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-517.LBL
Control Module Part Number: 8E0 614 517 A
Component and/or Version: ABS/ESP allrad 1726
Software Coding: 04495
Work Shop Code: WSC 63251
VCID: 2614F08451E0525A0DF-51F2
3 Faults Found:

18256 - Please check DTC Memory of Engine Controller
P1848 - 35-10 - - Intermittent
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
66-10 - Not Matched - Intermittent
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
35-00 - -

I changed the wsc code to try the engine code to see if it matched as the steering molue is also the same as the engine module...didn't work

 

[PetrolDave]

Rather than small edited sections, please post an Auto-Scan which you have NOT edited as there seem to be issues with multiple modules

 

[Boki Ar]

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
66-10 - Not Matched - Intermittent

This is great progress, proceed to the procedure from post #18.

Remeber:
Immediately after the message that the coding is accepted, without ignition off, start engine and go to basic setting G85.

 

[TrekyBob]

Thursday,11,July,2024,13:28:36:30198
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 11 x64
VCDS Version: 24.5.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4643.4
Data version: 20240429 DS355.0
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VIN: WAUZZZ8E54A106765   License Plate:


Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
          67 69 75 76 77
 
VIN: WAUZZZ8E54A106765   Mileage: 336940km-209364miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06C-909-559-ASN.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 909 559 M    HW: 8E0 909 059
   Component: 3.0L V6/5V          0010 
   Coding: 0011711
   Shop #: WSC 63251 000 00000
   VCID: 3FDA45E0AB6AE3926E9-5160
   VINID: 9D196AAAA2151444410061C614741F96F8

8 Faults Found:
16684 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
            P0300 - 001 -  - Intermittent
16688 - Cylinder 4
            P0304 - 001 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
16690 - Cylinder 6
            P0306 - 001 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
16689 - Cylinder 5
            P0305 - 001 - Misfire Detected - Intermittent
18405 - Friction too High; Exhaust Cam Adjustment Bank 1
            P1997 - 002 -
16398 - Bank 1: Camshaft B (Exhaust)
            P0014 - 001 - Retard Setpoint not Reached (Over-Advanced) - Intermittent
18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30
            P1602 - 002 - Voltage too Low - Intermittent
18057 - Powertrain Data Bus
            P1649 - 008 - Missing Message from ABS Controller - Intermittent
Readiness: 0000 0100

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 614 517 A
   Component: ABS/ESP allrad      1726 
   Coding: 00000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 
   VCID: 2614F08451F0525A0DF-51F2

3 Faults Found:
18256 - Please check DTC Memory of Engine Controller
            P1848 - 35-10 -  - Intermittent
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            66-10 - Not Matched - Intermittent
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            35-00 - -

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 820 043 AB
   Component:   A4 Klimaautomat   1319 
   Coding: 00000
   Shop #: WSC 63251 
   VCID: 619EA398785EF56238D-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 907 279 F
   Component: int. Lastmodul  RDW 0517 
   Coding: 00101
   Shop #: WSC 63251 
   VCID: 353627C89C5629C2B45-4B00

1 Fault Found:
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus
            79-10 - Please Check Fault Codes - Intermittent

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8E0-959-655-84.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 959 655 B
   Component: Airbag 8.4EP        3002 
   Coding: 0010602
   Shop #: WSC 63251 000 00000
   VCID: 363420C4845022DABDF-5184

1 Fault Found:
00588 - Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N95)
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 953 549 S
   Component: Lenksáulenmodul     0611 
   Coding: 01012
   Shop #: WSC 63251 
   VCID: 43D24910C28287720A1-4B00

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.clb
   Part No: 8E0 920 900 L
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D37 
   Coding: 01100
   Shop #: WSC 42621 
   VCID: 2D060FA874066102CC5-5160
   WAUZZZ8E54A106765     AUZ6Z0C0287727

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No: 8E0 959 433 AT
   Component: Komfortgerát T23    1210 
   Coding: 06976
   Shop #: WSC 63251 
   VCID: 03528910820247724A1-4B00

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801B
   Component: Tõrsteuer.FS BRM 0003 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802B
   Component: Tõrsteuer.BF BRM 0003 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801A
   Component: Tõrsteuer.HL BRM 0004 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802A
   Component: Tõrsteuer.HR BRM 0004 

2 Faults Found:
01561 - Rear left door
            61-10 - Won't De-Safe - Intermittent
01562 - Rear right door
            61-10 - Won't De-Safe - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 035 186 L
   Component: concert II  GRO    0001 
   Coding: 01000
   Shop #: WSC 63251 
   VCID: 303816DC63040CEAE73-4B1E

2 Faults Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
00852 - Loudspeaker(s); Front
            36-00 - Open Circuit

End----------(Elapsed Time: 05:35, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.1V)-----------

 

[TrekyBob]

SOLVED ABS PROBLEM!

For everyone who helped or read my ABS Bosch 5.7 problem, it is now solved. The solution was a combination of all the information provided here on the Forum but also some info from Audizine. FYI I changed the angle sensor and the clock spring, cleaned the plug on the yaw sensor, checked the power to the ABS on the two separate power in pins (with both voltmeter and test lamp). FYI I read that making all the WSC codes the same accross all the controllers worked for someone, so I did that, I also read that after the ABS login and WSC code stage, do not start the car, leave the ignition on and the VCDS connected (to observe the steering angle) and before entering the G85 Login - rotate the steering wheel exactly one turn left and right (difficult) and then go into the G85 calibration with the login 40168, at this stage the angle sensor is still stuck on -2.5° and calibration is locked, but complete this stage as describe in the ROSS TECH procedure and it unlocks itself and the steering angle sensor starts reporting again, I left everything connected and took the car for a slow drive to perform the functional steering test, as requested I applied the brake to no avail, there was never a change in the cluster lighting but I performed the procedure anyway and bingo, all the lighs went off execept the ABS (orange), once home I switched everything off and then restarted the car - BINGO no lights at all - wonderful...

If you have such a problem like I did with coding the Bosch 5.7, keep reading and be open to all the experiences that others have had, every situation is different here at ROSS TECH the forum works and the support from various people is amazing, THANKYOU.

 

[Boki Ar]

Excellent. Thanks in advance for posting the new, fresh Auto Scan, w/o DTCs, please do it.