Funny IDE reading in one controller vs another

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I was logging tranny temps yesterday, and noticed my rpm was about 1/4 of actual... found this really weird, as I'm sure I've logged this value in this controller previously (on prior VCDS builds) and it was correct.
I'll try to dig up a prior scan with said correct value if useful.....
Is it possible that there's a bug in the current version which would report the same IDE differently across various controllers?

Very weird

Engine controller = correct
Code:
Wednesday,12,June,2024,18:20:46:38535
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 24.5.0.0
Data version: 20240429 DS355.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

VIN: WVGEP9BPXED013866   License Plate: ENGINE

                Address 01: Engine  (7P0 907 401 K)
18:20:38
  IDE00021   Engine RPM 759 /min
  IDE00025   Coolant temperature 90 °C
  IDE00192   Coolant temperature at radiator outlet: actual value 43.2 °C
  IDE00196   Engine oil temperature 94.3 °C
  IDE03582   Temperature sensor for engine temperature management 102.7 °C

Tranny controller = 1/4 value
Code:
Wednesday,12,June,2024,18:22:24:38535
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 24.5.0.0
Data version: 20240429 DS355.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

VIN: WVGEP9BPXED013866   License Plate: TRANS

                Address 02: Auto Trans  (0C8 927 750 CF)
18:22:19
  IDE00021   Engine RPM 190 /min
  IDE00024   ATF temperature 88 °C
  IDE00025-ENG104170   Coolant temperature-Coolant Temperature VW526 88.50 °C

Autoscan
Code:
Wednesday,12,June,2024,12:29:27:38535
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 24.5.0.0
Data version: 20240429 DS355.0
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VIN: WVGEP9BPXED013866   License Plate: TOUAREG
Mileage: 207107km-128690mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: BP-VW52 (7P6)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 36 42 46 47 52 53 55 56 5F
          62 65 69 6C 6D 72

VIN: WVGEP9BPXED013866   Mileage: 207107km-128690miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CNRB)       Labels:. 059-907-401-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7P0 907 401 K    HW: 7P0 907 401 K
   Component: 3.0TDI FSA    H21 0011  
   Revision: 56H21---    CVN: E7FCBDE438D3FF82755A21130E1FC39E
   Coding: 292A4012233600050000
   Shop #: WSC 93288 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TDI0117P0907401K 001012
   ROD: EV_ECM30TDI0117P0907401K.rod
   VCID: B777000D0EDB832E32-80E2
   VINID: 9E65D58094A0A1550004320618BB2177C4

2 Faults Found:
22838 - Particulate Filter (Bank 1) 
          P226D 00 [01100101] - Damaged or Substrate Missing
          Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 207097 km
                    Date: 2024.06.12
                    Time: 05:50:20

                    Engine RPM: 1408.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 67.1 %
                    Vehicle speed: 86 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 92 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 16 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 960 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.580 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Engine status: COENG_RUNNING
                    Engine status-Test_Program_Co Eng st COMPU VERB UBYTE: 3

29012 - Particulate Filter (Bank 1) 
          P226D 00 [11101101] - Damaged or Substrate Missing
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 207075 km
                    Date: 2024.06.11
                    Time: 17:12:50

                    Engine RPM: 1419.00 /min
                    Normed load value: 70.2 %
                    Vehicle speed: 9 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 89 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 30 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 970 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.540 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Particle filter: soot mass measured: 20.04 g
                    Particle filter: soot mass calculated: 22.26 g
                    Particle sensor: soot volume in exhaust: 0.47 mg/m³
                    Particle sensor: exhaust temperature: 240.0 °C
                    Particle sensor: cleaning deviation reaction time: 0.374

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0 

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0C8-927-7XX-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 0C8 927 750 CF    HW: 0C8 927 750 CF
   Component: AL1000 AISIN  002 3376  
   Serial number:                CVN: 187C4FCF
   Coding: 00B168
   Shop #: WSC 47391 001 104857
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL991031 002115
   ROD: EV_TCMAL991031_002_VW52.rod
   VCID: F2E1F11925392606C5-80A6

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:* 7P0-907-379.clb
   Part No SW: 7P0 907 379 P    HW: 7P0 907 379 A
   Component: MK25A         H36 0446  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 408840010EC818 Dataset Number: 7P0012v____ 0001
   Coding: 5B7613C349252556DAFCC89992D8A4407300
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MK25AXT 008001
   ROD: EV_ESPMK25A00800.rod
   VCID: CA9149F96D290EC65D-809E

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 FK    HW: 4H0 907 064 EK
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H36 0551  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 0D860000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 63086 001 1048576
   VCID: F7F7C00D465B432EF2-80A2

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4H0 905 852 B    HW: 4H0 905 852 B
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H40 0046 
   Serial number: 0213000390009010    

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 7P6-907-040.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 040 BR    HW: 7P6 907 040 BR
   Component: Klima 2 Zonen H21 1306  
   Coding: B686000A80
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiFront 004001
   ROD: EV_AirCondiFront_VW52.rod
   VCID: 850BBAC504B721BEF0-80D0

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 4H0-907-063-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 063 CD    HW: 4H0 907 063 D
   Component: BCM1 2.0      H12 0130  
   Revision: 15012002    Serial number: 00000001883690
   Coding: 26001012D63C5D010020180780005D0C431C660882010261800000020000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: ECDDEF610F1DF0F60F-80B8

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P0 955 119     HW: 7P0 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS    140423  033 0021 
   Serial number: 90243400140508230309
   Coding: 004DBD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7P0 955 559 E    HW: 7P0 955 559 E  Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLFS  H10 0020 
   Serial number: 20317072            
   Coding: 025223

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7P6 941 431 E    HW: 7P6 941 431 E
   Component: E1 - LDS  H04 0031 
   Serial number: 00000000002005140341

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4G0 907 410 A    HW: 4H0 907 410 A
   Component: USHL4.2  H30 0030 
   Serial number: 0000002274555RB6ZK03

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 705 K    HW: 4H0 907 705 C
   Component: EVLS-SG  H08 0300 
   Serial number: WA108664000005784112
   Coding: 010300

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 7P6-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 919 475 C    HW: 7N0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H05 0026  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 28231413800002
   Coding: 318501
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_VW526ParkiAssis2 001012
   ROD: EV_VW526ParkiAssis2.rod
   VCID: C38F64DD4A03DF8E9E-8096

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 7P0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 7P0 959 655 E    HW: 7P0 959 655 E
   Component: VW10Airbag02B H10 0043  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003NK00015FO Dataset Number: 7P6003V____ 1547
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003242
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW526 002001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW526_002_VW52.rod
   VCID: C38F64DD4A03DF8E9E-8096

   Seat occupied recognition: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P6 959 339     HW: 7P6 959 339 
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  003 0005 
   Serial number: 5850000R143040JLC8

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3575LRB40572B5M689OA

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor: 
   Serial number: 3585LRB401C50OF8B941

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side): 
   Serial number: 3517ARB40652KQAOP8G 

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor: 
   Serial number: 3527ARB40652KQAOOPLH

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3557BRB401C50QDH8SAL

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 3567BRB401C50QLON3L 

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 4H0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 953 568 H    HW: 7P6 953 507 M
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H04 0005  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 01335NEE000P2 
   Coding: 000C15
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: B87503310BC58C563B-80EC

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P6 959 542 A    HW: 7P6 959 542 A
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H04 0028 
   Serial number: 0047512 TRW 20140421

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 7P6-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 7P6 920 882 M    HW: 7P6 920 882 M
   Component: Kombi         H13 0419  
   Revision: 13240270    Serial number: 658210514592010
   Coding: 0B3733012B000008020004
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSRBVW526 001020
   ROD: EV_KombiUDSRBVW526_VW52.rod
   VCID: C79770CD7E3BF3AE42-8092

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 530 J    HW: 7P6 907 530 F
   Component: GW-CAN-L-MOST H13 6032  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000001394142 Dataset Number: 7P6067v____ 0040
   Coding: 000103AD00
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   GVL: FB4F40455D7F000000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewVW526UDS 001007
   ROD: EV_GatewUDS_VW52.rod
   VCID: BF87682D26EBBB6EFA-80EA

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P0 915 181 B    HW: 7P0 915 181 
   Component: Batt_Sensor  H07 0190 
   Serial number: 41128155225701197223

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 760 D    HW: 4H0 959 760 D
   Component: MEM-FS        H08 0156  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000099669702
   Coding: 00581B0000004001000001010101202020202121202020
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: B46D370117AD683617-80E0

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 4H0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 793 AC    HW: 4H0 959 793 P
   Component: TSG FA        H02 0306  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000102810077 
   Coding: 011D17205E00453005080000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: FAF1D93975495E468D-80AE

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 4H0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 FK    HW: 4H0 907 064 EK
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H36 0551  
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0335488971    
   Coding: 0186163A68B9509580A00620210A08000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: F7F7C00D465B432EF2-80A2

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P6 959 719     HW: 7P6 959 719 
   Component: GTO BT  H19 0059 
   Serial number: 1361424141          

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7P0 959 591 B    HW: 7P0 959 591 B
   Component: J245 PS30.055  H01 0008 
   Serial number:     WOO29327928     
   Coding: 191100

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 7P0 959 591 C    HW: 7P0 959 591 C
   Component: J394 PS30.055  H01 0008 
   Serial number:     WOO29447628     
   Coding: 191100

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 3AA 962 243 D    HW: 3AA 962 243 D
   Component: GEB.F.Heckoef  H16 0811 
   Serial number: 93222408            

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:. 8T0-035-223-BOM.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 466     HW: 7P6 035 466 
   Component: DSP Prem      H01 0090  
   Revision: 00001001    Serial number: 10811003178507
   VCID: F5EBCA055C57313EE0-80A0

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 4H0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 792 S    HW: 4H0 959 792 M
   Component: TSG BF        H02 0306  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000102860422 
   Coding: 011D17205E00453005080000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: C89573F17B25FCD64B-809C

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (J540-)       Labels:| 7P0-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 7P0 907 801 F    HW: 7P0 907 801 F
   Component: EPB           H51 1201  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: C1451300316    Dataset Number:             A001
   Coding: 01040200
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkbA7 000006
   ROD: EV_ParkbA7.rod
   VCID: B6690D0909D17A2629-80E2

   Slave 3: 

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:. 7P6-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 357     HW: 7L6 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-ECU       H04 0110  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: -------------- Dataset Number: 7P0036v____ 0010
   Coding: 010A00010F000400
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFS 005006
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFS_VW52.rod
   VCID: FCFDDF21777D60769F-80A8

   Left_headlamp_power_output_stage: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8U0 941 329     HW: 8U0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo links  H01 0003 
   Coding: 130000

   Right_headlamp_power_output_stage: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 941 329     HW: 8U0 941 329   Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo rechts  H01 0003 
   Coding: 130000

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels:. 4F0-035-0xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 4G0 035 082 G    HW: 4G0 035 082 
   Component: Radio U SIRIU H60 0133  
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 156E.0E8010399
   Coding: 020007010000000001
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: A44DC741A74DF8B687-80F0

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 035 664 F    HW: 7P6 035 664 A
   Component: H-BN-NA       H40 0821  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 273ET0EB001901
   Coding: 020200050040E1EF41022B0E00000003F00001030000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: BB7F1C3D3AF3A74ED6-80EE

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7P6 060 884 J
   Component: NAR 2017/2018  1602 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7P6 919 603 C    HW: 7P6 919 603 C
   Component: DU8 SV Touch  H27 0045 
   Serial number: VWZ8Z9PA3007YZ      

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7P6 919 603 C    HW: 7P6 919 603 C
   Component: DU8 SV Touch  H27 0045 
   Serial number: VWZ8Z9PA3007YZ      

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 G
   Component: CD-Database  5950 

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 4H0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 795 P    HW: 4H0 959 795 J
   Component: TSG HL        H03 0306  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000103045387 
   Coding: 011817200000253005080000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: C89573F17B25FCD64B-809C

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3Y0-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 273 K    HW: 7P6 907 273 K
   Component: RDKBERU25     H09 0009  
   Serial number: 10000000130690 Dataset Number: 7P6096v____ 0022
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU25 003006
   ROD: EV_RDKBERU25_VW52.rod
   VCID: C48D67C14F0DD8B6A7-8090

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 7P0 907 383 F    HW: 7P0 907 383 B
   Component: Anhaenger     H11 0110  
   Revision: 5A001001    Serial number: 00008200376188
   Coding: 020D000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: BB7F1C3D3AF3A74ED6-80EE

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 441 A    HW: 4H0 907 441 
   Component: SG Rueckfahrkamera  0020  
   Revision: 00H08000    Serial number: 525 PA8J442396
   Coding: 0130001
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: B777000DC6DB832E32-80E2

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (----)       Labels:| 7N0-959-107.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 959 107 C    HW: 7P6 959 107 
   Component: HDSG-Modul    H10 0043  
   Revision: 22010001    Serial number: 131400152 Dataset Number: 7P6959107C  D045
   Coding: 0533314003
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeckkTouar 202142
   ROD: EV_HeckkTouar.rod
   VCID: BF87682D26EBBB6EFA-80EA

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 4H0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 4H0 959 795 P    HW: 4H0 959 795 J
   Component: TSG HR        H03 0306  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000102895888 
   Coding: 011817200000253005080000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: C89573F17B25FCD64B-809C

No fault code found.

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I'm sure I've logged this value in this controller previously (on prior VCDS builds) and it was correct.
Apparently, I'm a liar....
I just checked prior logs, and RPM was never a thing in 02.... so I'm guessing this is because of the incorrect reading which must've always been this way.
I'll need to do more lots to get better info before I make any more incorrect claims. :cry:
 
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I have a fuzzy recollection that I've seen this before, but I really don't remember when/where. I'm also just over 1000 miles away from our 2015 T'reg TDI so I can't go an check if this is "normal" on them. Ours also has a somewhat different TCM --755- part number rather than your -750- with a much longer coding sting and ASAM data version 003 rather than your 002, so...?

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No worries.... I'm fairly confident now, that since my prior logs are missing RPM, this was always a "thing".... I'm sure someone will confirm it at some point in the future...
 
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