Cruise Control not working, 2006 Jetta TDI Manual

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I have been trying to diagnose the cruise control on a 2006 Jetta TDI.

All of the switches work in VCDS.
The brake and clutch switch also work.
The running lights are all working and so are the brake lights.

I checked the cruise in VCDS on our two other cars. The cruise does work on these cars.
2005 Passat TDI
2004 Jetta Wagon TDI

This is the only thing that I found was in Cruise Control Switch Monitoring.

With the car on (engine off) and the cruise switched on, this is what our two other cars were.

00000001

This is what the 2006 Jetta TDI was.

10000001

Here is what VCDS says
xxxxxxx1-Stuck ON
xxxxxx1x-Pressed OFF
xxxxx1xx-Decelerate (-)
xxxx1xxx-Accelerate (+)
xxx1xxxx-Set (SET)
xx1xxxxx-Resume (RESET)
1xxxxxxx-Stuck ON (Hardware)

The only codes are Airbag codes.

What does "Stuck ON (Hardware)" mean?

I read that someone fixed a similar problem by replacing the accelerator pedal.

Does that have anything to do with cruise control?

I can get an Auto Scan if you need it.
 
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Please post the auto-scan......even God knows to post an auto-scan in the Church of RT.

Have you verified that cruise is activated with VCDS?

Stuck on hardware of what?
 
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I posted the wrong auto scan. So I am deleting it and posting the right one.

Code:
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VIN: 3VWST71KX6M670389   License Plate: 
Mileage: 210130km-130568mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 7D

VIN: 3VWST71KX6M670389   Mileage: 210130km-130568miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
   Part No SW: 03G 906 016 AB    HW: 028 101 223 8
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000SG  7550  
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E2546716
   Coding: 0050071
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 63C5506BA269432620-8036

1 Fault Found:
005686 - Powertrain Data Bus 
               P1636 - 000 - Missing Message from Airbag Controller
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 22
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 210129 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 18:20:26

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 798 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 14.21 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00001000
                    Torque: 141.5 Nm
                    Torque: 0.0 Nm

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 Q    HW: 1K0 907 379 Q
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102  
   Revision: 00T12001    
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 408FBFE713BF383E1D-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 820 047 DL
   Component: Climatic PQ35   090 0505  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 71E92A236895E1B6A2-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 D    HW: 3C0 937 049 D
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002  
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000000146052
   Coding: 14018E234004180000140000001400000008730B5C
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 2A5BFD4F85C3D26E23-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW350  012  0402  
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 00066  

1 Fault Found:
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 117
                    Mileage: 210132 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 14.05 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-XM.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 E    HW: 8E0 035 593 E
   Component: SDAR XM         H03 0080  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7E2032900
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B55F84B8A39CB66D8-807E

2 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module 
            014 - Defective
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101110
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 51436 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 03:19:29

02788 - Internal Communications Error 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 25
                    Reset counter: 157
                    Mileage: 210130 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 19:50:59

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits: 00000010
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: None
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 55A17EB3FC3DAD965E-8000

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AH    HW: 1K0 953 549 AH
   Component: J0527           034 0070  
   Coding: 0000021
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 78FF17070BEFB0FE65-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 920 952 D
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1212  
   Coding: 0023203
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 2B55F84B8A39CB66D8-807E

1 Fault Found:
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Gateway         H10 0120  
   Revision:   H10       Serial number: 28001057068CE3
   Coding: 3D3F0B60071002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 2A5BFD4F85C3D26E23-807E

1 Fault Found:
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 157
                    Mileage: 210129 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 18:20:27


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K0 920 952 D
   Component: IMMO            3HL 1212  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B55F84B8A39CB66D8-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2377  
   Coding: 0001269
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3663D93F417B868EB7-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5   D04 1606  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 326BE52FAD139AAE9B-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 AF
   Component:    KSG              0401  
   Coding: 137803281B09050F880F048051A0
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 74E723371787D49E49-8020

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2377  
   Coding: 0001269
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 377DD43B46717F86AC-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 C    HW: 1K0 035 180 C
   Component: Radio DE2       011 0014  
   Revision: 00011000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7E2037916
   Coding: 0040402
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 204F1F67F3FF183E7D-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2434  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3169EA23A815A1B6E2-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2434  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 326BE52FAD139AAE9B-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
   Component: PTC-Element         0404  
   Revision: 00800000    Serial number:               
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D51F653B42DC556C6-8078

1 Fault Found:
00361 - Heater Element for Auxiliary Heater (Z35) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:56)--------------------------
 
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The cruise is activated.
I checked and activated it again just to make sure.
 
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What does "Stuck ON (Hardware)" mean?
 
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I would consider that CCS Switched On but those bits weren't standardized so I had to exclude ????XXXX in the charts on this page:

Checking Cruise Control using Measuring Values

This isn't from that label file but I have a German clip example:
006,4,Schalterstellung,,Siehe Labeldatei
; xxxxxxx? = Gerastet EIN
; xxxxxx?x = Getastet AUS
; xxxxx?xx = Verzögern (-)
; xxxx?xxx = Beschleunigen (+)
; xxx?xxxx = Setzen (SET)
; xx?xxxxx = Wiederaufnahme (RESET)
; ?xxxxxxx = Gerastet EIN (Hardware)

Gerastet EIN (Hardware) should mean locked on hardware in my opinion.
 
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P.S. Did you check MVB 006.2 for Clutch, brake and similar feedback in addition to checking the #16 controller for switch info yet? Clicking [Add to Log] will save that data to a log so you can paste it here.
 
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P.S. Did you check MVB 006.2 for Clutch, brake and similar feedback in addition to checking the #16 controller for switch info yet? Clicking [Add to Log] will save that data to a log so you can paste it here.

I did check mvb 006 and #16 steering, everything looked good.

Here is a log.

Monday,12,October,2015,17:54:23:15611
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Address 16: Steering wheel (1K0 953 549 AH)

17:54:22 Group 004: Cruise-Cntrol-System
ON Main Switch
Not Oper. CCS-Set
Not Oper.
N/A
Monday,12,October,2015,17:54:41:15611
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Address 16: Steering wheel (1K0 953 549 AH)

17:54:40 Group 004: Cruise-Cntrol-System
ON Main Switch
Not Oper. CCS-Set
Not Oper.
N/A
Monday,12,October,2015,17:55:13:15611
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Address 16: Steering wheel (1K0 953 549 AH)

17:55:12 Group 004: Cruise-Cntrol-System
ON Main Switch
Activated CCS-Set
Resume
N/A
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Address 01: Engine (03G 906 016 AB)

17:57:24 Group 006: Cruise Control System (CCS)
0.0 km/h Vehicle Speed (actual)
00101100 Cruise Control Pedal Monitoring
0.0 % Accel. Pedal Pos. Sensor 1 (G79)
10000001 Cruise Control Switch Monitoring
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Address 01: Engine (03G 906 016 AB)

17:57:38 Group 006: Cruise Control System (CCS)
0.0 km/h Vehicle Speed (actual)
00101000 Cruise Control Pedal Monitoring
0.0 % Accel. Pedal Pos. Sensor 1 (G79)
10000001 Cruise Control Switch Monitoring
 
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If the airbag light is on, will the ECU shut the cruise off?
 
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Is there anything else I can check?
 
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"If the airbag light is on, will the ECU shut the cruise off?"

As Jack answered
No, never heard about it. Don't think so. But :cool:

This entry shows an activated clutch pedal and that means CCS off
00101100 Cruise Control Pedal Monitoring
 
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Ja Ja .......Switch stuck broken/bad wire track ........or foot on pedal ..........:thumbs:
 
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I wondered the same with the Airbag issue but I don't know if that would cause inoperative CCS.

Either way, 15 isn't communicating and several modules in the car are complaining about No Signal/Communication so that should be diagnosed at some point.
 
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I did see that clutch pedal switch.
If you turn the car on without starting and don't touch the clutch it will read that way.
As soon as you push the clutch in once, it will read correctly. I am guessing that it reads that way because it is a hall effect sensor.
 
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The drivers door harness was replaced by the previous owner. The trunk and fuel door do not work. Can that have anything to do with cruise control?
 
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I did see that clutch pedal switch.

Ok. I think that sensor will be the issue. Ignition on, pedal not moved "0". Ever.
Than after pushing the pedal, may be half way; switching to "1".

That's the way it works.
 
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I did see that clutch pedal switch.

Ok. I think that sensor will be the issue. Ignition on, pedal not moved "0". Ever.
Than after pushing the pedal, may be half way; switching to "1".

That's the way it works.

As soon as you start the car it works perfect. How would I know for sure that that is the problem?
 
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Also the car starts perfect and there is only one sensor.
 
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