Translation communication breakdown

[Saubazi]

Hallo Uwe

i think there is some wrong translation?

You as german must see it.

it's same in english or german active und inaktive only different written, sounds like same !!

and was is BACK-UP lights , Kontrollleuchte ?

 

[Saubazi]

https://imgur.com/a/8kEJuHn

 

[2kaa52]

Hallo Uwe

i think there is some wrong translation?

You as german must see it.

it's same in english or german active und inaktive only different written, sounds like same !!

and was is BACK-UP lights , Kontrollleuchte ?

What do you speak Here ? Denglish ?

 

[2kaa52]

What do you think about to Post a Autoscan of your Car ?

 

[alexnoe]

Hallo Uwe

i think there is some wrong translation?

You as german must see it.

it's same in english or german active und inaktive only different written, sounds like same !!

They don't sound like same. In German, stress usually moves to the negation prefix. In English, it doesn't. This even works for words which are written the same:

German/English
fair/fair
UNfair/unFAIR

Mispronouncing "unfair" in English is one of the top ten mistakes made by German speakers.

and was is BACK-UP lights , Kontrollleuchte ?

According to google:
A backup light is a lamp used to provide light behind a vehicle, particularly when reversing

Rückfahrleuchte is correct.

 

[SaVAGeSoot]

But wait.... now I'm all confused.... is Uwe German or not?

 

[2kaa52]

But wait.... now I'm all confused.... is Uwe German or not?

A very interesting question !!!

So, Uwe, now we want to know it.

Give us a answer to this important Question.

 

[Uwe]

is Uwe German or not?

American. Formerly German. Born there. Lived there until age 7-1/2, when I was transplanted here to the USA. Have lived here ever since, but spent a number of summers during my youth back in the Fatherland, and also had had professional reasons to interact with Germans during my career as an adult. Became an American citizen at age 25. Americans (especially my wife) think I'm "too German", and Germans think I'm "too American".

@Saubazi I do see a discrepancy in 6R0-937-08x-09; some of the bits in Byte 16 in English claim "active" while in German they are "deaktiviert" which clearly have the opposite meaning. I'm hereby asking @Dana and @Sebastian to check into this.

-Uwe-

 

[Eric]

Also quite a few bit descriptions missing in english. An autoscan of each version as 2kaa52 requested would let us see the two data versions in question; hopefully the english screenshot doesn't come from an outdated version

 

[Sebastian]

Fixed, updated files will be included in the next data version - as usual.

 

[Saubazi]

More of that jazz, DENGLISH?

https://imgur.com/a/8jjv0EH

 

[Saubazi]

oh BEI THE WAY (BTW) it's file 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb and another files of Steuergerät 09 XXX 973 090 x

 

[Saubazi]

They don't sound like same. In German, stress usually moves to the negation prefix. In English, it doesn't. This even works for words which are written the same:

German/English
fair/fair
UNfair/unFAIR

Mispronouncing "unfair" in English is one of the top ten mistakes made by German speakers.


According to google:
A backup light is a lamp used to provide light behind a vehicle, particularly when reversing

Rückfahrleuchte is correct.

does we now have british english or amarican english ? bonnet or hood , lift or elevator, sidewalk or pavment ?
did U as bavarian ever orderd " a Bier" in UK pub ?

 

[Saubazi]

Also quite a few bit descriptions missing in english. An autoscan of each version as 2kaa52 requested would let us see the two data versions in question; hopefully the english screenshot doesn't come from an outdated version

..and ERIC watch this ...

https://imgur.com/a/pYy2RPI

 

[alexnoe]

does we now have british english or amarican english ?

My comment about stress applies to both. There is just no way you can say UNfair, IMpatient or INactive, neither in british nor in american English.

bonnet or hood , lift or elevator, sidewalk or pavment ?

Interestingly, bonnet is a French word, but a hood/bonnet is "capot" in French

did U as bavarian ever orderd " a Bier" in UK pub ?

Nope, and I don't intend to. I neither drink beer, nor do I go to pubs.

 

[DneprDave]

I work on large marine engines. Many of the engines were designed in Germany and built in Japan and installed in American ships. The instruction manuals were translated from german to japanese to english. This made for some very interesting sentence structures, often with hilarious results.

 

[Sebastian]

Translations are generally a tricky thing. Even if you have good references, they do change occasionally and evolve, as languages also evolve and translators themselves become more experiences on all sides. With some languages like English (UK vs. US), Spanish (MX vs. ES) or Chinese (traditional vs. simplified), you add the complexity of regional or historical variants. Our translations are based on what VW us using in their documentation and similar to DneprDave, I also encounter translations like some which went German > English > Spanish > German (hey SEAT/CUPRA, yes that is you!) on a regular basis and get you beyond a head shaking moment.

One of the best examples from the past was "Blinker links EIN/AUS" > "Signal Lamp Left ON/OFF" > SOME SPANISH VERSION > "Lampe Fahrerseite 2-stufig". Now besides the obvious loss of the "Turn Signal" reference, "Fahrerseite" is different on LHD/RHD models, which will result in incorrect meanings of such a translation in different contexts.


As with all issues, they get addressed once we are aware (and get to it on our many todo lists) and while I am thankful for things being pointed out, one can do so gracefully or one doesn't.