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Hi All.
Using vcds on a 56 plate sdi engine caddy, when viewing in mbv i could not find the group for the egr valve, or Glow plugs, Normally i have seen glow plug information such as voltage etc on other Vw caddy vans maybe later model year,, i could see a few groups showing duty cycle but
no name for the group shown just duty cycle, So you cant see how or where is Egr info to view, also any field box's i looked at to see if any balloon no image of a balloon was shown, is this all down to label files, No advanced mvb this was greyed out.

Also i logged injectors here is the log,, why are two showing -readings. and what does that represent, in mg/str are two of them struggling to get fuel.

Tuesday,15,September,2015,13:24:12:46146
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.0.2 (x64)
Data version: 20150820
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN:



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Address 01: Engine (03G 906 016 HN)

13:23:46 Group 013
0.28 mg/str Inj. Quantity
-0.49 mg/str Inj. Quantity
-0.12 mg/str Inj. Quantity
0.35 mg/str Inj. Quantity
 
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It would be much easier to try to answer this if we complete ID data from the ECU rather than just its part number and values from a measuring block. ;)

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I've posted plenty of full autoscans if you check my posts. just did not think i would need to post this time, anyway just ask and i will supply, here is a auto scan for this vehicle
I know you need autoscans with vehicle of no label files to add to your list help,

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Tuesday,15,September,2015,12:11:06:46146
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VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZ7X132646   License Plate: HG56 ZCV
Mileage: 163200km-101407mi   Repair Order: 


Chassis Type: 2K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 46 52 56

VIN: WV1ZZZ2KZ7X132646   Mileage: 163200km-101407miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 03G 906 016 HN    HW: 028 101 227 2
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC 0000SG  7361  
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: VWZ7Z0G7089476
   Coding: 0003031
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00157
   VCID: 76E3CAE201737F8E7F-8022

2 Faults Found:
18062 - Please check DTC Memory of Instrument Cluster 
            P1654 - 000 - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Torque: 104.9 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 12.31 V
                    Temperature: 29.7°C
                    Temperature: 31.5°C
                    Temperature: 25.2°C

16787 - EGR Valve (N18) 
            P0403 - 000 - Malfunction
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 840 /min
                    Torque: 48.8 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Duty Cycle: 18.7 %
                    Duty Cycle: 94.8 %
                    Absolute Pres.: 907.8 mbar
                    Temperature: 31.5°C

Readiness: 0 1 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK70.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 P
   Component: ASR FRONT MK70      0105  
   Coding: 0017106
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00157
   VCID: 3F8D6FC66EC9FEC66C-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AD    HW: 3C0 937 049 AD
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H52 2002  
   Revision: 00H52000    Serial number: 00000007059886
   Coding: 00884F030004100047000000000000000008FB075C0001
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 6BD5EB964A31B26690-803E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 2K2 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 020507 021  0501  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 35110  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW52.lbl
   Part No SW: 6Q0 909 605 AH    HW: 6Q0 909 605 AH
   Component: 09 AIRBAG VW52  023 2400  
   Revision: 04023000    Serial number: 0037TD0E55C2  
   Coding: 0012345
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00157
   VCID: 7DF1D5CE24452CD63E-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BB    HW: 1K0 953 549 BB
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 636 0070  
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 73E5F3F612016AA658-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 2K0 920 943 C    HW: 2K0 920 943 C
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1612  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0G7089476
   Coding: 0016401
   Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
   VCID: 2B552B968AB17266D0-807E

1 Fault Found:
00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 153342 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:21:13


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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 K    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H04 0021  
   Revision:   H04 02    Serial number: 080507F1001794
   Coding: 1D0F014007007401
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00157
   VCID: 2F6D3F86BEA90E46FC-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 2K0 920 943 C    HW: 2K0 920 943 C
   Component: IMMO            VDD 1612  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0G7089476
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B552B968AB17266D0-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 D    HW: 1T0 959 701 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0930  
   Coding: 0000560
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 387F04DA4BE7C9FEAD-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 CP
   Component:    KSG              0401  
   Coding: 808A0C087F2D8405485A030010C0
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00157
   VCID: 000FAC3A53B7413E55-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 D    HW: 1T0 959 702 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         005 0930  
   Coding: 0000560
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 397901DE70EDD0F652-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 035 186 J
   Component: Radio BNO           0016  
   Coding: 0020200
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 2D51258EB4A57C56CE-8078

No fault code found.

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I've posted plenty of full autoscans if you check my posts.
OK, but do you really think I should have to go digging for them? If you have one here somewhere, and you start a new thread to which it applies, management here would sincerely appreciate it if you would link to the post that contains the old Auto-Scan.

Anyway, as far as I can telll, no one has ever made a label file for that specific engine except our Danish distributor, and his is obviously in Danish, which I don't read very well at all.

Still extrapolating what's happening in Group 13 based on other, somewhat similar engines, is the ECU increasing or decreasing fuel on a cylinder-by-cylinder basis to smooth the idle. On cylinders 1 and 4 where the numbers are positive, it's adding a bit. On cylinders 2 and 3, it's taking away a bit.

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Anyway, as far as I can telll, no one has ever made a label file for that specific engine except our Danish distributor...

Probably won't happen before the weekend but it's on the todo-list as 2nd in line and should be ready early next week latest.
 
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OK, but do you really think I should have to go digging for them? If you have one here somewhere, and you start a new thread to which it applies, management here would sincerely appreciate it if you would link to the post that contains the old Auto-Scan.

Anyway, as far as I can telll, no one has ever made a label file for that specific engine except our Danish distributor, and his is obviously in Danish, which I don't read very well at all.

Still extrapolating what's happening in Group 13 based on other, somewhat similar engines, is the ECU increasing or decreasing fuel on a cylinder-by-cylinder basis to smooth the idle. On cylinders 1 and 4 where the numbers are positive, it's adding a bit. On cylinders 2 and 3, it's taking away a bit.

-Uwe-

Yes Uwe that is what i thought as neg on two of the 4, the reason i scanned the vehicle was in the mornings first start of the engine, i'm told it is a bit lumpy like the glow plugs are not all working, Then when scanned, although no mill light on, i had dtc for Egr N18, i changed the valve with another vehicle same pt numbers j0 etc except for the last 4 digits, no change in staring problem but as up to now no dtc for N18,, i checked the injectors, and you know the rest, not much else i could do without field box's info, only had a quick look at the vehicle will check it out when not so busy, any info mean while would be appreciated, also tested the glow plugs in the head all seem good, and took them out, visually look good, also regarding the injectors while at tick over rpm they look like 2 are getting less fuel as neg, also still happens as you hold the rpm higher, i could understand some engine when you lift off the throttle they switch off the injectors.
 
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Probably won't happen before the weekend but it's on the todo-list as 2nd in line and should be ready early next week latest.

i assume it will be in English. as you write english. for the ross tech guys.
 
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Hi Seb.
How you getting on regarding the label file,
 
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when the label file is done, do i have a update for vcds.
 
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I'll get back to you via email by the end of the day. :)
 
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Hi Seb
I installed the file, and have emailed you.
 
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Hi all
Here is a scan of the Egr Valve etc information after the update by sebastian, The vcds info i have, there are two lots of Egr duty cycle info, Exhaust Gas Recirc. Duty Cycle group 041. of 95.6 % and group 003 of 5.6 % Exhaust Gas Recirc. Duty Cycle why is this, plus i have 19.1 % Position (Spec.) Intake Flap,, Is this the run on valve anti shudder, or the Egr valve itself opening Level.

Tuesday,29,September,2015,13:37:53:46146
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 15.7.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20150904
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: License Plate:



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Address 01: Engine (03G 906 016 HN)

13:37:09
185.0 mg/str Exhaust Gas Recirculat. (spec.)
185.0 mg/str Exhaust Gas Recirculat. (actual)
5.6 % Exhaust Gas Recirc. Duty Cycle
861 /min Engine Speed (G28)
78.3°C Coolant Temperature (G62)
0.0 % Accel. Pedal Pos. Sensor 1 (G79)
195.0 mg/str Mass Air Flow (actual)
19.1 % Position (Spec.) Intake Flap
95.6 % Exhaust Gas Recirc. Duty Cycle
 
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