Resolved VW T5 Steering Angle Sensor problems

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Hi all

I have a VW T5 caravelle 2.5l auto that has was a mobility vehicle and has had all the adaptations stripped out and allegedly replaced to standard.

I’m getting two particular error codes of note but at the moment I’m trying to sort out the steering angle sensor, as I’m getting 00778 No Signal Communication. ESR light is on the dash too.

I’ve been into the measuring blocks and I’m getting no change in reading when I move the steering wheel. Thought I’d try the basic setting before pulling the wheel and replacing the clock spring, but can’t seem to find a guide in the wiki. Anyone got any suggestions on how I access Basic settings?

Before anyone asks, the mileage is correct, it’s not done 6k miles yet.

Report below:

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Saturday,25,February,2023,12:25:53:61947
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 22.10.0.1 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4630.4
Data version: 20221026 DS344.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ9H127961   License Plate:
Mileage: 9580km-5952mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 7H (7H - VW Transporter/Multivan (2003 > 2010))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0B 0D 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 2D 37 45 46 47 56
          57 6E 76 77 78 7D
 
VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ9H127961   Mileage: 9580km-5952miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 070-906-016-BPC.clb
   Part No SW: 070 906 016 EC    HW: 070 906 016 EC
   Component: R5 2,5L EDC  000AG  3758 
   Revision: --H08---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0I0864519
   Coding: 0000075
   Shop #: WSC 00271 210 85584
   VCID: 55F78D6CB91E4913E84-513C
   VINID: 9E60AAAAA1D8A8960108724604BE935F34

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No SW: 09K 927 750 P    HW: 09K 927 750 P
   Component: AQ 250 6F           1395 
   Revision: 00H83000    Serial number:              
   Coding: 0000328
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 42DD46305890CEABBD6-5118

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 7H0-907-37x-ESP.lbl
   Part No SW: 7H0 907 379 R    HW: 7H0 907 379 R
   Component: ESP MK25E1          0104 
   Revision: 00H31001   
   Coding: 0002603
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 44D140284284C09B8FA-5118

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 15
                    Mileage: 9585 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 128
                    Count: 4353
                    Count: 8214
                    Count: 2303


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 7H0-937-049.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 937 049 AE
   Component: BORDNETZ SGVER 1.0  2101 
   Coding: 0000357
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 75B7EDEC59DE2913C84-5118

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
   Component: 3C AIRBAG VW51      0011 
   Coding: 13123
   Shop #: WSC 02756 
   VCID: 221DE6B0BDD0EEABDD6-5118

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 7Hx-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 920 953
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V04 
   Coding: 00413
   Shop #: WSC 00222 
   VCID: 6B83CB940A9AEFE32E0-5118
   WV2ZZZ7HZ9H127961     VWZ7Z0I0864519

1 Fault Found:
01179 - Incorrect Key Programming
            35-00 - -

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Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 7H0-819-008.clb
   Part No: 7H0 815 071 F
   Component: Standheizung        0209 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B030B94CF1A2FE36E0-5118

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.clb
   Part No: 6N0 909 901
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001 
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 02756 
   VCID: 70B9DCF823BC0C3B1B2-5118

No fault code found.

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Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 7Hx-951-171.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 951 171 B
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    2920 
   Coding: 0000022
   Shop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
   VCID: 290FF19CC5E63DF39CC-5160

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7H5 951 178
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    1607

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 7H0-959-433.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 959 433 B
   Component: C1W Komfortgerát     0004 
   Coding: 00030
   Shop #: WSC 02756 
   VCID: 323D16F0ED307E2B2D6-4AE0

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 7E0-919-283.lbl
   Part No: 7E0 919 283
   Component: Parkingsyst. T5 T5M 801 
   Coding: 01127
   Shop #: WSC 02756 
   VCID: 6C81C8880F94E8DB27A-513C

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 06:06, VBatt start/end: 11.3V/11.3V. VIgn 11.3V)-----
Wednesday,05,April,2023,20:00:47:61947
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 23.3.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4630.4
Data version: 20230228 DS346.1
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ9H127961   License Plate:
Mileage: 9580km-5952mi   Repair Order:



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chassis Type: 7H (7H - VW Transporter/Multivan (2003 > 2010))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0B 0D 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 2D 37 45 46 47 56
          57 6E 76 77 78 7D
 
VIN: WV2ZZZ7HZ9H127961   Mileage: 9580km-5952miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 070-906-016-BPC.clb
   Part No SW: 070 906 016 EC    HW: 070 906 016 EC
   Component: R5 2,5L EDC  000AG  3758 
   Revision: --H08---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0I0864519
   Coding: 0000075
   Shop #: WSC 00271 210 85584
   VCID: 55F78D6CB91E49120C5-513C
   VINID: 9E60AAAAA1D8A8960108724604BE935F34

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No SW: 09K 927 750 P    HW: 09K 927 750 P
   Component: AQ 250 6F           1395 
   Revision: 00H83000    Serial number:              
   Coding: 0000328
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 42DD46305890CEAA597-513C

1 Fault Found:
01045 - Tiptronic Switch (F189)
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 6
                    Reset counter: 201
                    Mileage: 297 km
                    Time Indication: 0


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 7H0-907-37x-ESP.lbl
   Part No SW: 7H0 907 379 R    HW: 7H0 907 379 R
   Component: ESP MK25E1          0104 
   Revision: 00H31001   
   Coding: 0002603
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 44D140284284C09A6BB-5118

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 15
                    Mileage: 9585 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 128
                    Count: 13057
                    Count: 8214
                    Count: 2303


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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 7Hx-820-045.clb
   Part No: 7H0 820 045 AL
   Component: CLIMA/AC            0303 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6FBBDF843B8213C2E69-5118

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 7H0-937-049.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 937 049 AE
   Component: BORDNETZ SGVER 1.0  2101 
   Coding: 0000357
   Shop #: WSC 02756 790 00000
   VCID: 75B7EDEC59DE29122C5-5118

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 909 605 A
   Component: 3C AIRBAG VW51      0011 
   Coding: 13123
   Shop #: WSC 02756 
   VCID: 221DE6B0BDD0EEAA397-5118

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 7Hx-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 920 953
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V04 
   Coding: 00413
   Shop #: WSC 00222 
   VCID: 6B83CB940A9AEFE2CA1-5118
   WV2ZZZ7HZ9H127961     VWZ7Z0I0864519

1 Fault Found:
01179 - Incorrect Key Programming
            35-00 - -

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 7H0-819-008.clb
   Part No: 7H0 815 071 F
   Component: Standheizung        0209 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B030B94CF1A2FE28A1-5118

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.clb
   Part No: 6N0 909 901
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001 
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 02756 
   VCID: 70B9DCF823BC0C3AFF3-5118

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 7Hx-951-171.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 951 171 B
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    2920 
   Coding: 0000022
   Shop #: WSC 02757 790 00000
   VCID: 290FF19CC5E63DF278D-5160

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7H5 951 178
   Component: Innenraumueberw.    1607

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 7H0-959-433.lbl
   Part No: 7H0 959 433 B
   Component: C1W Komfortgerát     0004 
   Coding: 00030
   Shop #: WSC 02756 
   VCID: 323D16F0ED307E2AC97-4AE0

2 Faults Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
            77-00 - Internal Supply Voltage
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 7E0-919-283.lbl
   Part No: 7E0 919 283
   Component: Parkingsyst. T5 T5M 801 
   Coding: 01127
   Shop #: WSC 02756 
   VCID: 6C81C8880F94E8DAC3B-513C

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 05:41, VBatt start/end: 14.1V/14.3V)-----------
 
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Thought I’d try the basic setting before pulling the wheel and replacing the clock spring, but can’t seem to find a guide in the wiki. Anyone got any suggestions on how I access Basic settings?
Basic Settings, Group 060 in the ABS. But if the readings in MVB 004.1 don't change when you turn the steering wheel, Basic Settings won't succeed. The ABS will need to see a certain range of motion before it will calibrate the sensor's zero position.

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Basic Settings, Group 060 in the ABS. But if the readings in MVB 004.1 don't change when you turn the steering wheel, Basic Settings won't succeed. The ABS will need to see a certain range of motion before it will calibrate the sensor's zero position.

-Uwe-
Thanks Uwe.

Apologies for asking a stupid question, but is the lack of a signal the reason why the Basic Setting button is greyed out?

So sounds like either the clock spring is an issue or the wiring to it.

Best get the wheel off and take a look.

Appreciate the feedback.
 
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is the lack of a signal the reason why the Basic Setting button is greyed out?
No, I wouldn't think so. In fact, I can't think of a reason why the Basic Settings button would be grayed out on that ABS.

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Just to update anyone interested, turns out the wrong sensor had been installed (sensor was for a non-ESR model).

New sensor fitted and basic settings completed as per the RossTech wiki, now all sorted.
 
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