2008 Touareg V10 TDI R50, label file not displaying for control unit 31

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Chassis Type: 7L (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 08 09 11 31 15 16 17 19 22 28 34 36 37 46 47
          55 56 65 68 69 6C 76

VIN: WVGZZZ7LZ8D048759   Mileage: 232920km-144729miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
11-Engine II -- Status: Malfunction 0010
31-Engine other -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: Malfunction 0010
28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
68-Wiper Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 070-906-016-BLE1.clb
   Part No SW: 070 906 016 DP    HW: 070 906 016 DH
   Component: V10 5,0L EDCG000AGMª1250 
   Revision: --H05---    Serial number: VWX3Z0G3691813
   Coding: 0010575
   Shop #: WSC 40206 959 99343
   VCID: 619FAEED5D59A31260D-5184
   VINID: 9E65EAAAA1DCA885001081C524055F5A19

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09D-927-750.clb
   Part No SW: 09D 927 750 EL    HW: 09D 927 750 EL
   Component: AL 750 6A           0989 
   Revision: 00H61000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0012648
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 7CA1FF99DAFB6EFA53B-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 7L0-907-379-MK25E1.clb
   Part No SW: 7L0 907 379 L    HW: 7L0 907 379 L
   Component: ESP ALLRAD MK25E1   0303 
   Revision: 00H53001   
   Coding: 0012674
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 42DD4161F89FD80A597-5184

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: User\3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
   Part No SW: 3D0 909 137 D    HW: 5WK 485 05
   Component: 20 Kessy            6840 
   Revision: 68406620    Serial number: VWX3Z0G3691813
   Coding: 0147688
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 2809F3C97EB3125A673-807C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: ELV                 XXXX

No fault code found.

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass        Labels: None
   Part No: 7L0 959 760
   Component: Sitzverstellung     0701 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 77ABE0B5E38D4DA23E9-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 7L6-907-044.clb
   Part No: 7L6 907 044 AF
   Component: CLIMAtronic 2+2     4331 
   Coding: 0020030
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 78A9E389EE9342DA373-802C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 907 049 F
   Component: CLIMAtronic FOND    0503

1 Fault Found:
02599 - Rear Left Temperature Flap Motor (V313)
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 7Lx-937-049-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7L6 937 049 AG    HW: 7L6 937 049 AG
   Component: J519                2000 
   Revision: -1004---    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 600004002B2219000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 015F8E6DBD49031200D-8054

No fault code found.

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Address 11: Engine II        Labels: 070-906-016-BLE2.clb
   Part No SW: 070 906 016 DP    HW: 070 906 016 DH
   Component: V10 5,0L EDCG000AGSª1250 
   Revision: --H05---    Serial number: VWX3Z0G3691813
   Coding: 0010575
   Shop #: WSC 40206 959 99343
   VCID: 619FAEED5D59A31260D-5184

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 7L0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 7L0 959 655     HW: 7L0 959 655
   Component: J234  39 VW8T       0250 
   Revision: 92011025    Serial number: 0039P003K9G% 
   Coding: 0013113
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 7AADF981D0CF50CA417-5184

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 7L6-953-549.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 953 549 F
   Component: J527                3601 
   Coding: 0000012
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 42DD4161F8CFD80A597-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 7L6-920-xxx-7L6.lbl
   Part No SW: 7L6 920 890 A    HW: 7L6 920 890 A
   Component: J285 KOMBI-INST.    7520 
   Revision: KHH06V02   
   Coding: 0007111
   Shop #: WSC 41098 002 1048576
   VCID: 36352DB1A44774AAE5F-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 6N0-909-901-7L.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 7L6 920 890 A
   Component: J533  GW-K-CAN TP20 7520 
   Coding: 7FF2FFEF4A046003
   Shop #: WSC 41098 002 1048576
   VCID: 70B9DBA986A31A9AFF3-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AD-927-755.lbl
   Part No: 0AD 927 755 BG
   Component: TRANSFERCASE        0126 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 015F8E6DBD19031200D-5184

No fault code found.

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Address 28: HVAC, Rear
Cannot be reached

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Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 7Lx-907-553-34.clb
   Part No: 7L0 907 553 J
   Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC- 3C3P1 3125 
   Coding: 0015541
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3A2D3981901F90CA017-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
   Part No: 7L0 959 760
   Component: Sitzverstellung     0703 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 77ABE0B5E38D4DA23E9-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 7L6 035 680 A    HW: 7L6 035 680 A
   Component: RNS-MID       H04 1022 
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7G8342007
   Coding: 020500000100002200
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 30391BA94A235A9ABF3-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 7L0-959-933.clb
   Part No: 7L6 959 933 A
   Component: 19 HSG              0600 
   Coding: 0000081
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 40D94B69F693CA1A4F3-4B1E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L0 959 701 S
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet FS 6302

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L0 959 702 S
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet BF 6302

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 7L0 959 703 D
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HL 0201

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7L0 959 704 D
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HR 0201

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 7L0 907 719 A
   Component:    Neigungssensor   0020

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 7L6 951 171 B
   Component:    Innenraumsensor  0020

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
            000 - -

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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 7Lx-035-4xx-47.lbl
   Part No SW: 7L6 035 466 A    HW: 7L6 035 466 A
   Component: DSP 10 Kanal        0003 
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 00000000005894
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 323D11A1482F688AC97-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 7L6-907-357-A.lbl
   Part No SW: 7L6 907 357 A    HW: 7L6 907 357 A
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0001 
   Revision:   H02       Serial number:               
   Coding: 1288579
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 392F268D95199BD208D-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    X008 
   Coding: 00000019

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    X008 
   Coding: 00000019

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 7L6 035 680 A    HW: 7L6 035 680 A
   Component: RNS-MID       H04 1022 
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7G8342007
   Coding: 020500000100002200
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 30391BA94A235A9ABF3-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels:. 7L6-907-273.lbl
   Part No SW: 7L6 907 273 E    HW: 7L6 907 273 E
   Component: J0502 RDK           0006 
   Revision: 00004006    Serial number: 00000700009797
   Coding: 264900BBCF99BD000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3A2D3981901F90CA017-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 68: Wiper Electr.        Labels: 7L0-955-119-V2.clb
   Part No: 7L6 955 119 C
   Component: J400__ Front Wiper  5301 
   Coding: 0001399
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3A2D3981905F90CA017-806E

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AF  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RLS     061207 046  0204 
   Coding: 00208933
   Shop #: WSC 31414 

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer        Labels: 7L0-907-383-1D2.lbl
   Part No SW: 7L0 907 383 G    HW: 7L0 907 383 G
   Component: ANHAENGERELEKTRONIK 8854 
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 38292389AE1382DAF73-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 7L6 907 441 B    HW: 7L6 907 441 B
   Component: J772__Rearview      0033 
   Revision: 00H13000    Serial number:    PA8 J7Y0412
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 343117B9B23B66BADBB-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No: 7L0 919 283 F
   Component: 0D Einparkhilfe     1107 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 392F268D95199BD208D-806C

No fault code found.

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Dana Marie Smetanick said in an email -
"We do not receive very many 5.0l PD-TDI V10 T'reg inquiries but all 3 label files (070-906-016-BLE1, 2 and 3) exist in German. Those are encrypted CLBs and they can be obtained by running this updater:

https://ross-tech.de/downloads/upd

Make sure to tick the optional German box so they install."

I have successfully downloaded the 3 BLE .clb files and when I look at 01-Engine I and 11-Engine II MVB's, the .clb file is displayed correctly in the top left corner of the screen and the labels and balloons are displayed correctly in german for each group.....so far so good.

My problem is - when I look at 31 Engine Other, the Open Controller screen is not populated at all and "Coding II - 11" button is not enabled.


The Measuring Block Screen displays "Label File: NONE"


Can anyone tell me -
1. Is 070-906-016-BLE3.clb the label file for 31 Engine Other - If Yes, how do I fix it
2. Should the Coding II - 11 button be enabled or do I need the Security Access code
If the button should be enabled, how do I fix it
If I need the Security Access code - What is it

Also, does anyone know how to edit a clb file. I will convert the german files into english and share the results on the forum if I can edit these files
 
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What exactly are you trying to do at address 31? That's a not really a control module. That's VCDS talking to both ECUs at the same time.

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I recently had a DPF error but resolved it by performing the drive at 1800 - 2500 rpm in 4th or 5th gear for approx 15 mins.

Are you saying (for example) the values in 31 group 67 fields 1-4 are the same as address 01 group 67 fields 1-4 and the values in 31 group 67 fields 5-8 the same as address 11 group 67 fields 5-8.

Also, you didn't answer my question " Is 070-906-016-BLE3.clb the label file for 31 Engine Other - If Yes, how do I fix it"
 
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Sorry, cut and paste error

I meant - Are you saying (for example) the values in 31 group 67 fields 1-4 are the same as address 01 group 67 fields 1-4 and the values in 31 group 67 fields 5-8 the same as address 11 group 67 fields 1-4.

As you can see from the image above, the labels for address 31 are almost useless. Where a label says "Temperature", unless you know what it is the temperature of, it is meaingless.

I want the same level of label descriptions in 31 as there is in 01 and 11.
 
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Yes, when you read a measuring block group at address 31, the top line will be from that group in ECU 1 (address 01) and the second line is from the same group in ECU 2 (address 11).

I want the same level of label descriptions in 31 as there is in 01 and 11.
I'm not sure why that's not happening. It may be difficult for us to reproduce as we do not have a V10 TDI or even a set of ECUs from one.

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Thanks Uwe, I have created an english .lbl file for 01 and 11 using VAG Number 070-906-016-DP. I put the file in the User directory and this works ok.

VCDS uses the same label file for both 01 and 11.

If you can you tell me the VAG Number (file name) I need for a .lbl file for 31, I will create an english version.

Happy to share the results when finished.

Brad
 
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When Adresss 31 is being used, 070-906-016-DP re-directs to 070-906-016-BLE3.CLB.

So I think you'll need a custom re-direct file as well, named 07-31.LBL, in which case you can put something like this in there:

REDIRECT,070-906-016-BLE3.LBL,070-906-016-DP

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Not sure I agree with your reply above but happy to be corrected.

When VCDS creates a pre-label file for 01 and 11, the file name has the VAG Number embedded in it
For example -

01-070-906-016-DP_WVGZZZ7LZ8D048759-20230316-1145.PLB
11-070-906-016-DP_WVGZZZ7LZ8D048759-20230316-1146.PLB

When I create 070-906-016-DP.lbl and put it in the Ross-Tech/VCDS/Label/User directory, the following rule is applied
"VCDS will look for label files in the Label/User folder before looking in the main LABELS folder."

No redirection is performed if a file is found in the User directory - it just uses that file.

However, when VCDS creates a pre-label file for 31 the file name has NO VAG number
For example
31-_WVGZZZ7LZ8D048759-20230316-1114.PLB

Also, in the VCDS 31 Open Controller screenshot above, you can see there is no VAG Number.

So, I am making a couple of assumptions -
1. VCDS will use my 070-906-016-BLE3.lbl file if it is in the Label/User directory.

2. Since 01 and 11 MVB's have the following format

001,0,Group Title
001,1,Label 1
001,2,Label 2
001,3,Label 3
001,4,Label 4

011,0,Group Title
011,1,Label 1
011,2,Label 2
011,3,Label 3
011,4,Label 4

then 31 format will be

031,0,Group Title Bank 1 (Engine l - 01)
031,1,Label 1
031,2,Label 2
031,3,Label 3
031,4,Label 4
031,5,Group Title Bank 2 (Engine ll - 11)
031,6,Label 1
031,7,Label 2
031,8,Label 3
031,9,Label 4

Is this assumption correct - if not - what is the 31 label format?

To make the conversion to english an easier task, is there a way that I can edit the encrypted German clb file?


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Correction to the above label files info

2. Since 01 and 11 MVB's have the following format

001,0,Group Title
001,1,Label 1
001,2,Label 2
001,3,Label 3
001,4,Label 4

then 31 format will be

001,0,Group Title Bank 1 (Engine l - 01)
001,1,Label 1
001,2,Label 2
001,3,Label 3
001,4,Label 4
001,5,Group Title Bank 2 (Engine ll - 11)
001,6,Label 1
001,7,Label 2
001,8,Label 3
001,9,Label 4

Is this assumption correct - if not - what is the 31 label format?

To make the conversion to english an easier task, is there a way that I can edit the encrypted German clb file?
 
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Also, in the VCDS 31 Open Controller screenshot above, you can see there is no VAG Number.
Good point, I'm not sure why that is. @Eric ?

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I would need a debug 1024 to see what is happening. Normally you would have the first ECU part number/component in the usual place and the second ECU in the extra field:
CONTROLLER 07C 906 018 AJ, COMPONENT D1-6.0L-AT-LEV2 G ª8188
IMP 444, WSC 03738, Geraet 38140
Slave 100:CONTROLLER 07C 906 018 AJ, COMPONENT D1-6.0L-AT-LEV2 G ª8188, WSC:WSC 03738
 
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Ok, how do I do a debug 1024
[Options] -> Set Debug Level to 1024 -> [Apply]
Then (without exiting VCDS!) access address 31 in your vehicle. Getting to the Open Controller screen is probably enough, but it couldn't hurt to look at a Measuring Block for a second or three. Then close things down gracefully. Afterward, look in your Debug sub-folder. You should find a file there named DEBUG31.DLM. E-mail that file to Support@Ross-Tech.com

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Weird. The data is coming in from both ECMs, albeit a little delayed. I don't see why VCDS won't display it. I hope I can reproduce this at the office.
 
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So the dual-ECU W12-6L at the office worked fine, however once I simulated the delays seen in your debug, the problem appeared. We now have a fix in source and you should expect to see the part number(s) at address 31 in the next beta.
 
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Thanks Eric,
So, when VCDS populates the MVB screen,does it use the labels from 01 and 11 or does it have it's own 31 label file?

If it has it's own label file, what is the VAG Number and is the following label file format correct so I can continue to create an english version.
;
001,0,Group Title Bank 1 (Engine l - 01)
001,1,Label 1 Line 1,Label 1 Line 2,Balloon Line 1\nBalloon Line 2
001,2,Label 2 Line 1,Label 2 Line 2,Balloon Line 1\nBalloon Line 2
001,3,Label 3 Line 1,Label 3 Line 2,Balloon Line 1\nBalloon Line 2
001,4,Label 4 Line 1,Label 4 Line 2,Balloon Line 1\nBalloon Line 2
001,5,Group Title Bank 2 (Engine ll - 11)
001,6,Label 1 Line 1,Label 1 Line 2,Balloon Line 1\nBalloon Line 2
001,7,Label 2 Line 1,Label 2 Line 2,Balloon Line 1\nBalloon Line 2
001,8,Label 3 Line 1,Label 3 Line 2,Balloon Line 1\nBalloon Line 2
001,9,Label 4 Line 1,Label 4 Line 2,Balloon Line 1\nBalloon Line 2
;
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If you have not done so, make the redirect file as Uwe described above #8
Then as start make a copy of 070-906-016-BLE1.LBL and rename it 070-906-016-BLE3.LBL
 
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you can also test your label for address 31 with the current VCDS by calling it TEST-31.LBL .
 
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