MQB ACC retrofit

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Just wondering is VCDS able to help with adding used radar (5Q0907572A - ACC) to Seat Leon 5F (MQB platform)?

Official workshop removed Component Protection from ACC and now VIN is assigned to my car but module needs to be activated (they don't know how without additional codes).
Without activation ACC reports:

(message from old ODIS-E / module 13 / Active Cruise Control):

B203200 (1807) keine Freischalt-Identifikation aktiv
DTC text: FAULT_SWAP_NO_FSID_ACTIVE

As far i know workshops need activation codes + pin to enable above module via ODIS (SVM Activation), usually codes are together with new parts (bought via official channels - from VW). But if i get part from second hand, there is no codes.
So is there a chance to enable ACC module through VCDS or in any case i need support from VW/Seat (as i mentioned - suitable codes to allow workshop to activate module with ODIS-S)?

PS. Module 13 (ACC) basically works OK with CAN network, it is connected do CAN (1 pair) + Front Assist Camera (another pair of cables - according to electrical schematics from erwin).
AutoScan:
ECU: 13 - Adaptive Cruise Control
15.07.2015 15:11:13

LL_AdaptCruisContrUDS (EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372_001)

Master - Identification
15.07.2015 15:11:13 Top^


VW/Audi part number 5Q0907572A
Software version 0150
Hardware part number 5Q0907572 A
Hardware version H04
ASAM/ODX file identification EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372
ASAM/ODX file version 001013
[SO]_Param_VWTesteCodinInfor
Coding 00 00 12 00 FE 03 09
System abbreviation J428
Vehicle equipment code 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 6C 76
Parameter set part number 6c0114v____
Parameter set version 0007
System description ACC Bosch MQB
Program memory status programmable Program available
Programmability programmable
Program consistency Program present
Parameterizability Parameterizable
Data consistency valid EEPROM data
Error during last data record download no error
Data record modification Data record not changed

Regards,
R.
 
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First of all please post full auto-scan. That's the rules here :)
 
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Pre-Sales... how does one post an Autoscan?

To the original poster, you are asking very specific questions, questions which can be better answered once we know what the installed modules in the car support.

But the real question is, can VCDS help? The answer is most likely but one cannot give assurances on such a modification without knowing what modules are in the car. And you cannot provide that information without a diagnostic tool that could tell us what is in the car.

So, best bet here is to find someone near you with a VCDS system who could run a scan for you. Take that scan and post it in this thread so that we might better help you determine if VCDS will help you install the new components in your car.
 
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Either way. VCDS is a good investment, if you already are planning such modifications, VCDS will help you with smaller ones.
 
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Thx. for feedback ;)

It's hard to do VCDS' autoscan without VCDS ;)
There is an autoscan made by Vag Can Pro (VCP), little less informations but there are crucial like modules, errors, coding and so on. All 3 errors are _active_.
Crucial module is 13 (ACC - 2 errors), error at 5F is related to not fully functioning radar (ACC).

ACC is added by me and it is adopted/coded in gateway (19), dashboard (17), Information Control Unit 1(5F) and camera (a5)

Code:
VCP+K v4.0.1 11.07.2015 SmartCard Autoscan protocol2015-07-18 17:09:24.004
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Adressword  : 01
VAG no.     :8V0906264B 
Name        :Engine Control Module 1
Description :J623 1.8l R4 TFSI 

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_ECM18TFS0218V0906264B 001002
SW version  :0002
Coding      :0B2500322424010B0000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 02
VAG no.     :0CW300045E 
Name        :Transmission Control Module
Description :J743  GSG DQ200-MQB

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_TCMDQ200021 001001
SW version  :3902
Coding      :0014

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 03
VAG no.     :5Q0907379A 
Name        :Brakes 1
Description :J104  ESC          

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 008020
SW version  :0333
Coding      :20EE6A9230242A71007E060101CA2904560C5400608094F4004D0020C0

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 08
VAG no.     :5F0907044  
Name        :Air Conditioning
Description :J255  Climatronic  

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 002017
SW version  :0503
Coding      :00000014200100011105004000101000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 09
VAG no.     :5Q0937084Q 
Name        :Central Electrics
Description :J519  BCM MQBAB H  

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_BCMCONTI 010001
SW version  :0106
Coding      :08101942C2C102FB0BA44000B11C0728002A000000000000000000000000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 13
VAG no.     :5Q0907572A 
Name        :Adaptive Cruise Control
Description :J428  ACC Bosch MQB

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372 001013
SW version  :0150
Coding      :00001200FE0309

Errors found

000422 (U112300) Databus error value received

00070F (B203200) no enable identification active

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 15
VAG no.     :3Q0959655AC
Name        :Airbag
Description :J234  Airbag VW20  

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X 001116
SW version  :0188
Coding      :98CCC000000000005C0000CC000800000065

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 16
VAG no.     :5Q0953507AN
Name        :Steering Column Electronics
Description :J527  Lenks. Modul 

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
SW version  :0070
Coding      :AC00

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 17
VAG no.     :5F0920870F 
Name        :Dash Board
Description :J285  KOMBI        

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008026
SW version  :0556
Coding      :07AD0A086D84000801897A03010000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 19
VAG no.     :5Q0907530F 
Name        :Gateway
Description :J533  GW MQB High  

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_GatewLear 006010
SW version  :1109
Coding      :030100F42B085800CF0006E81C0F00010001000000000000000000000000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 42
VAG no.     :5Q4959593  
Name        :Door Electronics Driver Side
Description :J386  TSG FS       

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
SW version  :0006
Coding      :00100220DC00020000001000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 44
VAG no.     :5Q0909144L 
Name        :Steering Assistance
Description :J500  EPS_MQB_ZFLS 

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_SteerAssisMQB 008022
SW version  :1021
Coding      :91

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 52
VAG no.     :5Q4959592  
Name        :Door Electronics Passenger Side
Description :J387  TSG BFS      

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
SW version  :0006
Coding      :00100220DC00020000001000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 55
VAG no.     :5Q0907357  
Name        :Headlight Regulation
Description :J431  LWR-ECU      

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB 001110
SW version  :0070
Coding      :049A000009000000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 5F
VAG no.     :5F0035846  
Name        :Information Control Unit 1
Description :J794  MU-S-N-ER    

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_MUStd6C1PASE 002030
SW version  :0171
Coding      :04730001D70A000021110001000800002F01010401000100C6

Errors found

001C05 (U111100) Function limitation due to missing message

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 76
VAG no.     :5Q0919294B 
Name        :Parking Assistance
Description :J791  PARKHILFE 8K 

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002016
SW version  :0026
Coding      :0031251051

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : A5
VAG no.     :5Q0980653E 
Name        :Front Sensors Driver Assistance System
Description :R242  MQB_MFK      

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_MFKBoschAU370 001001
SW version  :0050
Coding      :0101010101040304020501000100000000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : A9
VAG no.     :5F0907159A 
Name        :Actuator For Structure-Borne Sound
Description :J869  SAS-GEN 2    

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
SW version  :0001
Coding      :

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************
And the question:
Is there a chance to enable/activate ACC module through VCDS or in any case i need support from VW/Seat (as i mentioned - suitable codes to allow workshop to activate module with ODIS-S)?
 
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Summary of all modules added:

Code:
Control unit						CU name		P/N.            S/W		H/W	DTC
01 - Engine Control Module 1 				1.8l R4 TFSI 	8V0906264B 	2		H09	0
02 - Transmission Control Module 			GSG DQ200-MQB	0CW300045E 	3902	        H43	0
03 - Brakes 1 						ESC 		5Q0907379A 	333		H75	0
08 - Air Conditioning 					Climatronic	5F0907044	503		H02	0
09 - Central Electrics 					BCM MQBAB H     5Q0937084Q 	106		H14	0
13 - Adaptive Cruise Control 				ACC Bosch MQB	5Q0907572A 	150		H04	2*
15 - Airbag 						Airbag VW20 	3Q0959655AC	188		11	0
16 - Steering Column Electronics 			Lenks. Modul 	5Q0953507AN	70		7	0
17 - Dash Board 					KOMBI 		5F0920870F 	556		336	0
19 - Gateway 						GW MQB High 	5Q0907530F 	1109	        125	0
42 - Door Electronics Driver Side 			TSG FS 		5Q4959593    	6		7	0
44 - Steering Assistance 				EPS_MQB_ZFLS 	5Q0909144L 	1021	        119	0
52 - Door Electronics Passenger Side 			TSG BFS 	5Q4959592        6		7	0
55 - Headlight Regulation 				LWR-ECU 	5Q0907357        70		5	0
5F - Information Control Unit 1 			MU-S-N-ER 	5F0035846        171		39	1*
76 - Parking Assistance					PARKHILFE 8K 	5Q0919294B 	26		2	0
A5 - Front Sensors Driver Assistance System 		MQB_MFK 	5Q0980653E 	50		H05	0
A9 - Actuator For Structure-Borne Sound 		SAS-GEN 2 	5F0907159A 	1		H06	0


VCP+K v4.0.1 11.07.2015 SmartCard Autoscan protocol2015-07-18 17:09:24.004
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Adressword  : 01
VAG no.     :8V0906264B 
Name        :Engine Control Module 1
Description :J623 1.8l R4 TFSI 

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_ECM18TFS0218V0906264B 001002
SW version  :0002
Coding      :0B2500322424010B0000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 02
VAG no.     :0CW300045E 
Name        :Transmission Control Module
Description :J743  GSG DQ200-MQB

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_TCMDQ200021 001001
SW version  :3902
Coding      :0014

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 03
VAG no.     :5Q0907379A 
Name        :Brakes 1
Description :J104  ESC          

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100ESP 008020
SW version  :0333
Coding      :20EE6A9230242A71007E060101CA2904560C5400608094F4004D0020C0

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 08
VAG no.     :5F0907044  
Name        :Air Conditioning
Description :J255  Climatronic  

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 002017
SW version  :0503
Coding      :00000014200100011105004000101000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 09
VAG no.     :5Q0937084Q 
Name        :Central Electrics
Description :J519  BCM MQBAB H  

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_BCMCONTI 010001
SW version  :0106
Coding      :08101942C2C102FB0BA44000B11C0728002A000000000000000000000000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 13
VAG no.     :5Q0907572A 
Name        :Adaptive Cruise Control
Description :J428  ACC Bosch MQB

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372 001013
SW version  :0150
Coding      :00001200FE0309

Errors found

000422 (U112300) Databus error value received

00070F (B203200) no enable identification active

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 15
VAG no.     :3Q0959655AC
Name        :Airbag
Description :J234  Airbag VW20  

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_AirbaVW20TS6VW48X 001116
SW version  :0188
Coding      :98CCC000000000005C0000CC000800000065

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 16
VAG no.     :5Q0953507AN
Name        :Steering Column Electronics
Description :J527  Lenks. Modul 

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_SMLSKLOMQB 009001
SW version  :0070
Coding      :AC00

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 17
VAG no.     :5F0920870F 
Name        :Dash Board
Description :J285  KOMBI        

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008026
SW version  :0556
Coding      :07AD0A086D84000801897A03010000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 19
VAG no.     :5Q0907530F 
Name        :Gateway
Description :J533  GW MQB High  

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_GatewLear 006010
SW version  :1109
Coding      :030100F42B085800CF0006E81C0F00010001000000000000000000000000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 42
VAG no.     :5Q4959593  
Name        :Door Electronics Driver Side
Description :J386  TSG FS       

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
SW version  :0006
Coding      :00100220DC00020000001000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 44
VAG no.     :5Q0909144L 
Name        :Steering Assistance
Description :J500  EPS_MQB_ZFLS 

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_SteerAssisMQB 008022
SW version  :1021
Coding      :91

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 52
VAG no.     :5Q4959592  
Name        :Door Electronics Passenger Side
Description :J387  TSG BFS      

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
SW version  :0006
Coding      :00100220DC00020000001000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 55
VAG no.     :5Q0907357  
Name        :Headlight Regulation
Description :J431  LWR-ECU      

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_HeadlRegulVWLWRMQB 001110
SW version  :0070
Coding      :049A000009000000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 5F
VAG no.     :5F0035846  
Name        :Information Control Unit 1
Description :J794  MU-S-N-ER    

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_MUStd6C1PASE 002030
SW version  :0171
Coding      :04730001D70A000021110001000800002F01010401000100C6

Errors found

001C05 (U111100) Function limitation due to missing message

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : 76
VAG no.     :5Q0919294B 
Name        :Parking Assistance
Description :J791  PARKHILFE 8K 

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002016
SW version  :0026
Coding      :0031251051

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : A5
VAG no.     :5Q0980653E 
Name        :Front Sensors Driver Assistance System
Description :R242  MQB_MFK      

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_MFKBoschAU370 001001
SW version  :0050
Coding      :0101010101040304020501000100000000

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************

Adressword  : A9
VAG no.     :5F0907159A 
Name        :Actuator For Structure-Borne Sound
Description :J869  SAS-GEN 2    

Comm.mode   :UDS, EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
SW version  :0001
Coding      :

No erros found

ECU scanning finished
****************************************************
 
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Pre-Sales... how does one post an Autoscan?

To the original poster, you are asking very specific questions, questions which can be better answered once we know what the installed modules in the car support.

But the real question is, can VCDS help? The answer is most likely but one cannot give assurances on such a modification without knowing what modules are in the car. And you cannot provide that information without a diagnostic tool that could tell us what is in the car.

So, best bet here is to find someone near you with a VCDS system who could run a scan for you. Take that scan and post it in this thread so that we might better help you determine if VCDS will help you install the new components in your car.
What do you think? Can VCDS solve this issue or i need online support from VW?
 
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I think you're going to need on-line support from VW.

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i suspected VW is only solution, it means i need to get activation codes for specific module(s) and it could be hard or completely impossible (according to VW policy, it is better to sell new car with richer equipment than allowing users to retrofit older cars).
Thx. anyway.
 
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