8P A3 ABS showing G251 faults but not a quattro? (MK60EC)

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Jphowden

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Hi, have an a3 with 3 faults in abs and i think it may be coding related. G251 is only on 4wd (or hill hold version) as far as i am aware, i have no real info on what has happened to the car previously as its a new vehicle to the owner.

Can anyone confirm that the coding is incorrect or that my theory is correct?

Thanks in advance for any help
Mark

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Wednesday,23,November,2022,19:26:48:21450
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 22.9.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4623.4
Data version: 20220830 DS341.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ8PXAA035401   License Plate: LX59RJO-1
Mileage: 200850km-124802mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 8P-AU35 (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WAUZZZ8PXAA035401   Mileage: 200850km-124802miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (BSE)       Labels: 06A-906-033-BGU.lbl
   Part No SW: 06A 906 033 JL    HW: 06A 906 033 JL
   Component:  BSE S71 1.6 2V     3460  
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number: AUX7Z0I6FNF0EV
   Coding: 0044071
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 72BD26A8C8AA1D3BE17-8026
   VINID: 9D196AAAA220A114400C510004AAC99552

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AN    HW: 1K0 907 379 AN
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H45 0107  
   Revision: 00H45001    
   Coding: 13422012092500FFC80F04E4901A00813900
   Shop #: WSC 06314 123 12345
   VCID: 7EA5029880F2495B95F-802A

3 Faults Found:
01279 - Longitudinal Acceleration Sensor (G251) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100101
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 49
                    Mileage: 200856 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2022.11.23
                    Time: 00:18:05

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 7
                    Count: 2
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 212
                    Count: 43776
                    Count: 1024
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0

01279 - Longitudinal Acceleration Sensor (G251) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 49
                    Mileage: 200856 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2022.11.23
                    Time: 00:18:05

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 7
                    Count: 2
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 211
                    Count: 43776
                    Count: 1024
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0

02085 - Incorrect Control Module Installed 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 49
                    Mileage: 200856 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2022.11.23
                    Time: 00:18:05

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 7
                    Count: 2
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 204
                    Count: 43776
                    Count: 1024
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0


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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8P0-820-047.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 820 047 D    HW: 8P0 820 047 D
   Component: J255  Klima Man H08 0050  
   Revision: 00H08004    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 313FE9A40D2C662358D-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8P0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 907 063 A    HW: 8P0 907 063 A
   Component: BCM PQ35  M   104 0541  
   Revision: 00104 AH    
   Coding: 0E000A2CB033F0C0207041E00000837C437A29AE304DC921E40000800040
   Shop #: WSC 06314 123 12345
   VCID: 323DE6A8042A5D3B217-8066

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8P2 955 119 F    HW: 8P2 955 119 F  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AU350  H10 0040 
   Coding: 00DD13

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8P0 951 177 
   Component: Innenraumuebe  H04 0020 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H03 1301 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
   Component: Neigungssenso  005 0003 

1 Fault Found:
00924 - Relay for Headlamp Cleaning System (J39) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 49
                    Mileage: 200856 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2022.11.23
                    Time: 00:18:04

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 12.25 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 8P0-959-655-10.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 P    HW: 8P0 959 655 P
   Component: Airbag AU1042 H06 0140  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003FB00292VU
   Coding: 30314238303830303037554A305238503053
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001
   ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod
   VCID: 4FFB8F5C775810D32E9-801A

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 3572DRB4000094D0593T

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor: 
   Serial number: 3582DRB40000949CA0E2

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side): 
   Serial number: 35128RB400004EE96FC6

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor: 
   Serial number: 35228RB400004F351B4J

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 35547RB400004EFB5C53

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 35647RB400004EFB5D99

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8P0-953-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 K    HW: 8P0 953 549 K
   Component: J0527           H37 0070  
   Coding: 0002012
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 46D5AA7894A2D19B9DF-8012

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           H02 0030

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY8.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 982 M    HW: 8P0 920 982 M
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H02 0980  
   Revision: D0H02002    Serial number: 2246I002001516
   Coding: 0004418
   Shop #: WSC 00099 067 57207
   VCID: 43D3B36CA790E4B3BA1-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AA    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H16 0222  
   Revision:   H16       Serial number: 4020K097150C28
   Coding: E9807F06000202002103
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 66954AF8F462F19B7DF-8032

1 Fault Found:
00470 - Company Comfort Databus in Single Wire 
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 49
                    Mileage: 200856 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 982 M    HW: 8P0 920 982 M
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H02 0980  
   Revision: D0H02002    Serial number: AUX7Z0I6FNF0EV
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 43D3B36CA790E4B3BA1-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 N    HW: 8P0 959 801 N
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0100  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 46D5AA7894A2D19B9DF-8012

1 Fault Found:
00943 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Driver Side (Z4) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 H
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 232    2901  
   Revision: 00H15000    
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 2F3BEFDC1B1870D34E9-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 802 N    HW: 8P0 959 802 N
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0100  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 47CBA77C93A8C893669-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8J0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 035 186 S    HW: 8P0 035 186 S
   Component: R Concert2+     H02 0280  
   Revision: 00H02000    Serial number: AUZ1Z3I5133289
   Coding: 0310001
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 42DDB668B88AEDBBB17-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P4 959 801 F    HW: 8P4 959 801 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0050  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
   VCID: 42DDB668B88AEDBBB17-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 8P4-959-802.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P4 959 802 F    HW: 8P4 959 802 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0050  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 1012544
   VCID: 43D3B36CA790E4B3BA1-8016

No fault code found.

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Seems to me the ABS itself knows what's wrong:

02085 - Incorrect Control Module Installed

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You may be correct 1k0907379an installed partslink lists 1k0907375an, the abs unit looks like it's as old as the car and definitely hasn't been replaced in the last year or so by the look of it.

If I get a new unit I will still have a coding issue tho so if anyone has that info I'd appreciate it

Mark
 
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try this coding:
11424012092500FF880F02E4901A00403800
 
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Thanks, I'll try in the am
 

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module doesnt like that coding - incorrectly coded fault comes up but that may be due to wrong module fitted
 

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got there in the end with topdon's suggested coding, thought i would post the solution. it might help someone else

thanks for the replies

Code:
Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AN    HW: 1K0 907 379 AN
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H45 0107  
   Revision: 00H45001    
   Coding: 13424012092500FFC80F02E4901A00823800
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 7EA5029880F2495B95F-802A

No fault code found.
 

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got there in the end with topdon's suggested coding, thought i would post the solution. it might help someone else

thanks for the replies

Code:
Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AN    HW: 1K0 907 379 AN
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H45 0107  
   Revision: 00H45001    
   Coding: 13424012092500FFC80F02E4901A00823800
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 7EA5029880F2495B95F-802A

No fault code found.

The only problem of the old coding was that someone activated the bit(16/0) for HHC, but the -AN have no G251 which result in "Incorrect Control Module Installed".
The actual coding you use is wrong for this car, even if there is no dtc because not every setting is checked by the ABS, because Continental don't know that everyone play in the setting, but have no clue!
Please use the old coding and disable HHC (byte16/bit0) (39h-> 38h) and all will be fine.
 
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