OBD2 Modes 5 and 6 greyed out

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I have had my VCDS for a few months now and I am learning a lot! One question I have is why in OBD2 are modes 5 and 6 unavailable? I know the mode 6 data is in there because I can see it with my other scan tool, a Blue Driver. Any ideas?


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 Saturday,15,October,2022,14:12:24:23389
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 22.9.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4623.4
Data version: 20220830 DS341.0
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VIN: WVWFV71K28W252233   License Plate: 
Mileage: 143400km-89104mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 65 77
         

VIN: WVWFV71K28W252233   Mileage: 143400km-89104miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
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Address 01: Engine        Labels:. 06F-907-115-AXX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 S    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0020  
   Revision: 5BH16---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H13N58PC
   Coding: 0403010A1C070160
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 36352BF1C442C86B0DF-8062
   VINID: 9E69D698705B0889C21420830CD597509F

1 Fault Found:
000256 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70) 
               P0100 - 004 - Supply Voltage - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 143407 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:58:18

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 772 /min
                    Load: 22.3 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 82.0°C
                    Temperature: 33.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.097 V

Readiness: 0110 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 050 J    HW: 02E 927 770 AD
   Component: GSG DSG         082 1409  
   Revision: 05108020    Serial number: 00001008182108
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 04940 001 00001
   VCID: 196FC04D559C071300D-804C

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Revision: 00H11001    
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 73B3D2E597B09D43EA1-8026

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 HR    HW: 1K0 820 047 HR
   Component: Climatic PQ35   142 1111  
   Revision: 00142031    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 7BA3FAC5BFE0D503B21-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ    HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000008017839
   Coding: 178D0F214004150047140000001400000028770B5C000100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 71BFD8EDEDACAF5318D-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 300108 021  0501  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 M    HW: 8E0 035 593 M
   Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H07 0150  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7H0255340
   Coding: 0000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 333312E5D730DD432A1-8066

2 Faults Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 215
                    Mileage: 142267 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 01:22:22

01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 20
                    Mileage: 143390 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:41:16


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
   Component: 6K AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000  
   Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6D0AGNXT  
   Coding: 0013899
   Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
   VCID: 6C81C999CA8E42BB2BB-8038

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 G
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0007

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME367553729

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME367503556

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6352QSME50064C45D

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6362QSME507214478

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME13352667-

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME13306F3B3

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BG    HW: 1K0 953 549 BG
   Component: J0527           051 0100  
   Coding: 0012122
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 78A9E5C98ED6FE1BDF3-802C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           002 0010

5 Faults Found:
00576 - Terminal 15 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00883 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal S 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00884 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal X 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
01744 - Ignition Switch Terminal P (D) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00885 - Ignition Switch (D) Terminal 50 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K6 920 974 A    HW: 1K6 920 974 A
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1216  
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H13N58PC
   Coding: 0007203
   Shop #: WSC 00000 067 57207
   VCID: 323D17E1282AD44B217-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0052  
   Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 020208F2001104
   Coding: ED811F070017020000
   Shop #: WSC 26084 444 57895
   VCID: 30391DE92626E65B573-8064

2 Faults Found:
01304 - Radio 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 7
                    Mileage: 143023 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:21:56

01303 - Telephone Transceiver (R36) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 7
                    Mileage: 143023 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:21:56


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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K6 919 879     HW: 1K6 919 879 
   Component: Kompass         001 0003  
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 1225223T2MZL03
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 7DA7F4DDA1F4DB338C5-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K6 920 974 A    HW: 1K6 920 974 A
   Component: IMMO            VDD 1216  
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0H13N58PC
   Shop #: WSC 61266 000 1048576
   VCID: 323D17E1282AD44B217-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M    HW: 1K0 959 701 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1207  
   Coding: 0001077
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 382925C9CE563E1B1F3-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 M
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.074 H08 1901  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
   VCID: 35372CFDD944C373045-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 052 0221  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 139006885103281B0904058FB0080A04889C00
   Shop #: WSC 61266 000 1048576
   VCID: 04518139C21EAAFBC3B-8050

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M    HW: 1K0 959 702 M
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1207  
   Coding: 0001076
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 392F20CDF55C2713E0D-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 907 357 
   Component: Dynamische LWR      0003  
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 74B1D1F992BE9A7BF3B-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CT
   Component:    RDK              0450  
   Revision: 00052000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0100101
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 04518139C21EAAFBC3B-8050

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone
Cannot be reached

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Not sure why that would be. Let's see if @Eric has any ideas.

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Mode 5 has been deprecated over CAN (ISO 15765). It was for O2 sensor test results and I'm guessing CAN ECUs are now supposed to have that in Mode 6. It is expected that it's greyed out and will remain this way on CAN cars.
Mode 6 on K-Line cars (ISO 9141, ISO 14230) was more or less self-contained, ie the ECU would give you a Test ID, and the results that went with it. The user was supposed to correlate the Test ID with a table made available by the manufacturer (hah!) for that specific vehicle. The scan tool only needs to display the test ID and the results, which is why it's implemented by VCDS on K-Line cars. Mode 6 on CAN cars takes the opposite approach: each test ID has its name and values with units and formulas. On the plus side it is great for the user who can now see human readable data, on the downside that means the scan tool needs to implement a whole data library to interpret this, not that different in size to Mode 1 measuring values (but of course completely different with regards to the actual contents). Looks like about 100 monitor IDs (MIDs), 100+ various formulas, and the associated logic (some of which probably still applies from the old mode 6) to process the test value, min, max allowed and further optional extensions (!). Given VCDS' primary function as a VAG scan tool, this hasn't so far percolated to the top of our priority list, since AFAIK there has yet to be a car that wasn't fixable on the VAG side where something in Mode 6 was the answer. Mode 6 over CAN is something we may visit in the future if time permits, though.
 
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