2017 VW Tiguan BATTERY NOT CHARGING - STOP CAR IMMEDIATELY

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Hi,

Need some help. My mums VW Tiguan she was driving along today and the car came up with a RED warning saying STOP CAR IMMEDIATELY! BATTERY NOT CHARGING.

I have run a scan and it has come up with several fault codes, relating to the generator.

I Have also checked the voltage at the battery 12.5V with engine off, 11.7V with engine running, so it is not charging.

Any help much appreciated.


Code:
Friday,14,October,2022,20:35:06:41168
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
VCDS Version: 22.3.1.4 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4615.4
Data version: 20220407 DS337.0
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VIN: WVGZZZ5NZHW403044   License Plate:


Chassis Type: 5N-VW37 (3Q0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 19 22 42 44 52 5F A5

VIN: WVGZZZ5NZHW403044   Mileage: 90540km-56258miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-DFGA)       Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04L 906 026 JC    HW: 04L 907 309 P
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H24 3023 
   Revision: B4H24---    CVN: DBFBCE1D4C6C0C4B
   Coding: 0119001203271D082000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906026JC 004002
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906026GQ_004.rod
   VCID: 74B1DFB81E3122ABDB7-8020
   VINID: 9E65EAAAA15EA989C400300410DA7B269F

3 Faults Found:
7144 - Please Check DTC Memory in CAN Gateway (J533)
          U1008 00 [044] - -
          [Diagnostic interface for data busRead out DTC]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 90535 km
                    Date: 2022.10.13
                    Time: 15:35:30

                    Engine RPM: 1028.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 10.6 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 87 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 68 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 11.880 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Drivetrain coordinator: ACC fault status-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake fault status-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake function status-Bits 0-7: 0
                    Drivetrain coordinator: brake function status-Bits 0-7: 1
                    Acceleration: 0.000 m/s²

9582 - NOx Sensor 1 Bank 1
          P2200 00 [096] - Electrical Malfunction
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

28991 - No Communications with NOX Sensor 1
          U029D 00 [032] - -
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 614 517 CE    HW: 5Q0 614 517 AC
   Component: ESC           H25 0413 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 60277000000516
   Coding: 0AEE929A34200B6F4777070462C74950492CD0E2E046927D30605078C02A4200002F641A1B13111435351919323200
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 036010
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_036_VW37.rod
   VCID: 76B5E5B0084D30BBE53-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (E87)       Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5NA 907 044 M    HW: 5NA 907 044 M
   Component: AC Automat    H35 4301 
   Revision: 20K08000    Serial number: 00000B00387115
   Coding: 0012010420211001110510000010102A
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaPrehVW37X 002023
   ROD: EV_ACClimaPrehVW37X_002_VW37.rod
   VCID: 49CF5E4C29330F43581-801C

   Humidity sensor: exterior:

   Rear A/C control head:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3G0 907 049 D    HW: 3G0 907 049 D
   Component: E265KlimaHeck  H02 0201
   Serial number:       04031501850571
   Coding: 000000

2 Faults Found:
263425 - Air Quality Sensor
          B10AF 04 [009] - Internal System Fault
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 216
                    Reset counter: 65
                    Mileage: 89118 km
                    Date: 2022.09.11
                    Time: 14:39:34

                    Outside temperature: 22.5 °C
                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.2 V
                    System run time-Engine running time: 186 s
                    System run time-Terminal 15 on: 188 s
                    Air quality status: Malfunction
                    System run time-Engine running time: 186 s
                    System run time-Terminal 15 on: 188 s

329479 - Position Sensor for Fresh/Recirculated Flap Motor
          B109B 15 [008] - Open or Short to Plus
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 101
                    Mileage: 89855 km
                    Date: 2022.09.23
                    Time: 10:15:19

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.1 V
                    Inside temperature: 24.2 °C
                    Outside temperature: 14.5 °C
                    Fresh air/recirculating air/back pressure door specified value: 636
                    Actual value for fresh air/recirculation air flow flap: 822
                    Actual value for fresh air/recirculation air flow flap: 94.5 %


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 5Q0-937-08X-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 CE    HW: 5Q0 937 084 CE
   Component: BCM MQBAB M   H34 0236 
   Serial number: 02001703200110
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMMQB 017001
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_017.rod
   VCID: 7DA7FA9C2D7B63E3A49-8028

   Wiper motor control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5NC 955 119     HW: 5NC 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: 326 RL 161214  033 0372
   Serial number: 00000001612120463584
   Coding: 0E4DDD

   Rain/Light Recognition Sensor:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 B    HW: 5Q0 955 547 B  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLHS  042 0105
   Serial number: S7Y17M02D07H02M24S24
   Coding: 00A8DD

   Anti-theft alarm system sensor:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172     HW: 5Q0 951 172
   Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0316
   Serial number: 000000000ZY170042NPK

   Alarm horn:
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605 A    HW: 5Q0 951 605 A
   Component: Sirene, DWA  005 0314
   Serial number: 00000000000068320510

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 919 294 A    HW: 3Q0 919 294
   Component: PDC 8 Kanal   H07 0020 
   Serial number: 001201177478011
   Coding: 0071451001
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHBO18VW3260000 007015
   ROD: EV_EPHBO18VW3260000_SK37.rod
   VCID: 372B28B44FC789B33E5-8062

1 Fault Found:
10494464 - Function Limitation due to Environmental Factors
          B2022 00 [008] - -
          [Geber für Einparkhilfe - Schmutz bzw. Eisbildung]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 97
                    Mileage: 90425 km
                    Date: 2022.10.11
                    Time: 16:34:16


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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 2Q0-907-572.clb
   Part No SW: 2Q0 907 572 M    HW: 2Q0 907 572 B
   Component: ACCCONTIMQB   H01 0233 
   Coding: 2A0060C150FF8728749C8145004087
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCMRRCONTIVW376 002012
   ROD: EV_ACCMRRCONTIVW376_002.rod
   VCID: 3E253D9060FDB8FBFD3-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 AR    HW: 5Q0 959 655 AR
   Component: AirbagVW21    003 0317 
   Serial number: 003TDR2HXP3N
   Coding: 98CCC0C00C0000005C5400CF008800000065
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002154
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
   VCID: 1079B3280AE97E8B5FF-8044

   Left seat belt tensioner:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 980 945 A    HW: 4M0 980 945 A
   Component: BeltPretRevFL  106 1032
   Serial number: 5NC857705C0025R00385
   Coding: 80000D

   Right seat belt tensioner:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4M0 980 946 A    HW: 4M0 980 946 A
   Component: BeltPretRevFR  106 1032
   Serial number: 5NC857706C0025R01070
   Coding: 80000D

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 602 17
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887
   Serial number: 35700000000AB99D412V
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 602 17
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887
   Serial number: 35800000000B6854012A
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 602 17
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  000 6149
   Serial number: 3510001B3247FF95C1DL
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 602 17
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  000 6149
   Serial number: 3520001B3247FF96A33D
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 202 17
   Component: FrontSensor_D  000 6149
   Serial number: 3550001A5244A734D7DA
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Driver's side crash data pedestrian protection:
   Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 202 17
   Component: PedP_Sensor_D  000 6149
   Serial number: 2280001AB244A735F48A
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Passenger's side crash data pedestrian protection:
   Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 202 17
   Component: PedP_Sensor_P  000 6149
   Serial number: 2290001AB244A735831$
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Center pedestrian protection crash sensor:
   Subsystem 10 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 202 17
   Component: PedP_Sensor_C  000 6149
   Serial number: 2300001AB244A734A42Y
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Driver's side crash data pedestrian protection 2:
   Subsystem 11 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 102 17
   Component: PedPSensor_D2  001 0887
   Serial number: I0M0000000023DA4112X
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Passenger's side crash data pedestrian protection 2:
   Subsystem 12 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 000 102 17
   Component: PedPSensor_P2  001 0887
   Serial number: I0N00000000E85A4A028
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J524)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 953 569 A    HW: 5Q0 953 569 A
   Component: Lenks.Modul   075 0235 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 20210623400073
   Coding: 0C00
   Shop #: WSC 25168 004 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001016
   ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB.rod
   VCID: 3C21379876E1AAEBD37-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 5NA 920 951 A    HW: 5NA 920 951 A
   Component: KOMBI         309 8311 
   Coding: 27A400006380060001886B031401000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009051
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
   VCID: 3FDB409467F7B1F3F65-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 3Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 530 C    HW: 3Q0 907 530 C
   Component: GW MQB High   418 4286 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0005888040
   Coding: 030500045F087300FB07224C0A0F00010001050000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   GVL: 01D43C0000000000408C80000000480000000000000000000000000000000000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewNF 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewNF_VW37.rod
   VCID: 2F3B10D4B7974173665-807A

   Generator:

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5TA 959 442 A    HW: 5TA 959 442 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H06 0023
   Serial number: 0371704185000444AO2B
   Coding: 280000

   Battery Monitoring Control Module:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5QA 915 181 D    HW: 5QA 915 181 D
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H10 9070
   Serial number: 9059452904         

3 Faults Found:
9175296 - Function Restriction due to Driver Fatigue Recognition
          B130E 00 [008] - -
          [Funktionseinschränkung Pausenempfehlung - Ausfall CAN-MSG Prio2]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 90168 km
                    Date: 2022.10.04
                    Time: 10:42:33

                    Terminal 30 power supply: 13.1 V
                    Terminal 15: On

8526353 - Generator
          P1B00 00 [009] - Mechanical Malfunction
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 65
                    Mileage: 90535 km
                    Date: 2022.10.13
                    Time: 15:34:30

                    Terminal 30 power supply: 11.6 V
                    Terminal 15: On

8526354 - Generator
          P1B01 00 [008] - Electrical Malfunction
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 105
                    Mileage: 90536 km
                    Date: 2022.10.13
                    Time: 15:39:47

                    Terminal 30 power supply: 11.6 V
                    Terminal 15: On


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Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels:* 0CQ-907-554.clb
   Part No SW: 0CQ 907 554 H    HW: 0CQ 525 130
   Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7083 
   Serial number: HA1-00010.01.17
   Coding: 0101
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 004013
   ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X_004.rod
   VCID: 4ACD61402C35045B51B-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 E    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
   Component: TSG FS        020 0041 
   Serial number: 211016EJL21975
   Coding: 00310220D001048000001000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 43D34C640B1FD51392D-8016

   Rear Driver Side Door Control Module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 812 A    HW: 5Q0 959 812 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: FOND_FHSG_DRV  005 0005
   Serial number: 00000000000013227000
   Coding: 0D0000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 T    HW: 5Q0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  128 1072 
   Coding: 9107
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 013144
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_013.rod
   VCID: 45D7527C052BEB23BC9-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0041 
   Serial number: 060117EA518352
   Coding: 00310020DE01048000001000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 42DD49601405DC1B99B-8016

   Rear Passenger Door Control Module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811 A    HW: 5Q0 959 811 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG  005 0005
   Serial number: 00000000000013045639
   Coding: 050000

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 035 874 B    HW: 3Q0 035 874 B
   Component: MU-S-ND-ER    840 0751 
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 02730601FF00000051110101008808001F0100C601200100CF
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CDELP 001001
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CDELP_VW26.rod
   VCID: 313F16ACA1A35783701-8064

   Display and control head 1 for information electronics:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 606     HW: 5G0 919 606
   Component: ABT_High  H63 0032
   Serial number: VWZ8Z9SKL072UT     

   Data carrier:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5NA 919 866 AG    HW: -----------
   Component: ECE AS 2020  --- 1310
   Serial number: --------------------

No fault code found.

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Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242)       Labels:| 3Q0-980-65X-A5.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 980 654 G    HW: 3Q0 980 654
   Component: MQB_B_MFK     H06 0231 
   Serial number: 06021712K10174
   Coding: 0003070600000401000213448050A90084000E000020
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschMQBB 001001
   ROD: EV_MFKBoschMQBB_001_VW36.rod
   VCID: 3B23348473EFADD3DAD-806E

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:32, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.9V. VIgn 11.8V)-----
 
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Based on the scan, I'd say the alternator (aka "generator") is Not Functioning Good.

Have you visually confirmed that the thing is spinning as it should?

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Based on the scan, I'd say the alternator (aka "generator") is Not Functioning Good.

Have you visually confirmed that the thing is spinning as it should?

-Uwe-
Hi Uwe,
Yes, the belt looks fine and it is all spinning as it should.
Strange that it should happen as she was driving, my first thought was maybe the belt had come off / snapped.
 
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Based on the scan, I'd say the alternator (aka "generator") is Not Functioning Good.

Have you visually confirmed that the thing is spinning as it should?

-Uwe-
This couldn't be the main Alternator fuse or something simple like that?
 
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This couldn't be the main Alternator fuse or something simple like that?
Try measuring the voltage on both sides of the alternator main fuse with a multimeter - no need to have the engine running.
 
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Try measuring the voltage on both sides of the alternator main fuse with a multimeter - no need to have the engine running.
Do you know where the main alternator fuse is located?
 
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I've managed to find the location of the fuse, incase anyone reading the forum needs to know. It's to the right of the battery in main fuse box, number SA2.
 
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UPDATE:

I tested fuses etc and all ok. Have now removed the alternator, not too bad a job, but you do have to remove the undertray, wheel arch liner, A/C pump and fan belt tensioner to get access to the alternator bolts.

Once the alternator was out I realised the freewheel clutch pulley on the alternator span freely both directions, a quick google says it should only spin free in one direction so I believe I have found the problem!

A new clutch pulley is around £30 from TPS, alot better than the new alternator at £309+vat!
Hopefully this will solve the problem. I'll update here so anyone else discovering the same fault can read.
 
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the freewheel clutch pulley on the alternator span freely both directions,
Well, that would certainly explain the "Generator -- Mechanical Malfunction" fault. :cool:

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