RNS-E coding rejected

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Hello experts! First time posting here, not sure if I am in the right area. I have a 2007 Audi A3 (8P) with the RNS-E navigation unit. I am trying to add a bluetooth aux input unit and need to code the radio to turn on the aux input. The current code is 0209117 which matches the car (CD changer, no phone, no sat radio, etc). As I understand it, to enable the aux input, I am supposed to change the second to last digit to a 5. This new code 0209157 is rejected by the system. I have tried multiple codes like removing the CD changer option, adding the phone option among other things and I still can not get the Aux option to appear. Any thoughts?
 
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Ah, i believe this is short coding.

In this case, options 'add' a certain value to the current coding, which results in the new value. Therefore you can not just change one number of a valid coding string. If you are trying to code, in de input field you normally get a popup with the values to add to the current coding to get the desired result.
 
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Thanks Tommy for the prompt reply. Yes so regarding the second to last digit which is equipment I coding...
  • 0xxxx?x: Equipment I
    • +1 = Standard/Basic Value - Add to the Sum of Options below
    • +1 = Audi Music Interface (AMI/PR-UF7) installed
    • +2 = Satellite Radio (SIRIUS/XM) installed
    • +4 = Analog Input (AUX/PR-UF0/UF1/UF2) installed
I am adding 4 to the existing code of 1 to get 5. From other forums and youtube the value of 5 is what enables the Aux input.

The original code is 0209117 and I am adding a value of 4 to that second to last digit but the new code, 0209157 is rejected.

By the way the part number of the RNS-E is 8P0 035 192 G with component RNS-E US3 H72 0150
 
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By the way the part number of the RNS-E is 8P0 035 192 G with component RNS-E US3 H72 0150
A few years ago I used to do a lot of RNS-E retrofitting but I'm a bit rusty now.

Having said that I'm fairly sure you need a 193 version of the RNS-E to enable the Aux input.

See audiforum.us for suitable part numbers, since you're in the US that means an 8P0 035 193 with suffix A, D or F
 
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Thanks Dave,

Adam on YouTube was able to code his 8P0 035 192 X with the Aux input. At 2:05 he shows you the serial tag of his unit and you can see the part number. I will see if he can share his short coding.

 
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Having said that I'm fairly sure you need a 193 version of the RNS-E to enable the Aux input.

Adam on YouTube was able to code his 8P0 035 192 X with the Aux input. At 2:05 he shows you the serial tag of his unit and you can see the part number. I will see if he can share his short coding.
The other possibly important variable is the firmware version, since you haven't posted an Auto-Scan we don't know what firmware version your RNS-E has.

So two things:
1) post an Auto-Scan so we have all the information about your A3
2) also ask Adam what firmware version his RNS-E has
 
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Thanks again Dave. Here is the autoscan results taken this morning:

Code:
Saturday,24,September,2022,07:50:03:15414


Chassis Type: 8P (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 37 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WAUKD78P67A082633   Mileage: 132230km-82163miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 022-906-032-BDB.lbl
   Part No SW: 022 906 032 JF    HW: 022 906 032 GP
   Component: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1G   9407 
   Revision: --H02---    Serial number: AUX7Z0F8FNF0KO
   Coding: 0000178
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 58B5FDD3EB2F5D4D5B-800C
   VINID: 9D195B5072201874402021830C8DF21AAD

4 Faults Found:
049153 - Powertrain Databus
               U0001 - 008 - Unspecified Malfunction - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 39.0°C
                    Temperature: 40.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 960.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 11.430 V

049441 - No Communication with ABS Brake Control Module
               U0121 - 008 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 131610 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 38.0°C
                    Temperature: 39.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 960.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 10.795 V

005668 - MIL Request Signal Active (Check TCM for errors too!)
               P1624 - 008 -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 131610 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 698 /min
                    Load: 25.1 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 67.0°C
                    Temperature: 43.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 960.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.589 V

001281 - Vehicle Speed Sensor
               P0501 - 002 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 131610 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1851 /min
                    Load: 14.1 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 66.0°C
                    Temperature: 46.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 960.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.335 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 047 F    HW: 02E 927 770 AE
   Component: GSG DSG         070 1171 
   Revision: 04507000    Serial number: 00000608300479
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 1B3FA2DFDA99F655B6-804E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels:. 1K0-614-517-MK60AT.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 614 517 AD    HW: 1K0 614 517 AD
   Component: ESP 4MOTION MK60-AT 0102 
   Revision: 00H13001   
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 69D3C8174045D4C5F4-803C

1 Fault Found:
01279 - Longitudinal Acceleration Sensor (G251)
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 P    HW: 8P0 820 043 P
   Component: KlimavollautomatH18 0300 
   Revision: 059662      Serial number: 8P0820043P   
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 397358577065A44544-806C

1 Fault Found:
01273 - Fresh Air Blower (V2)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101010
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 216
                    Mileage: 131610 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2022.06.13
                    Time: 00:30:04

             Freeze Frame:
                    Temperature: -50.0°C
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    (no units): 207.0
                    (no units): 145.0


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 8P0-907-279-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 F    HW: 8P0 907 279 F
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H43 1201 
   Revision: 00H43000    Serial number: 00000006236967
   Coding: E18C5F81C014100000181800180000000028FE175C1100
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 08192
   VCID: 408535B313BFF58D03-8014

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AU350   H01 0130 
   Coding: 00062736
   Shop #: WSC 06314 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557 A  Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH13 0090 
   Coding: 00150573
   Shop #: WSC 06314 

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8P0-959-655-94.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 A    HW: 8P0 959 655 A
   Component:    Airbag 9.41  H12 3890 
   Revision: 91H12389    Serial number: 0035W0G01W03 
   Coding: 0432605
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 408535B313BFF58D03-8014

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P0 910 339
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 001 0020

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 3B7W0        

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0001.01.000000100000000000ÿ†63

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 000000ÿ†6332DRB403E4529CWÿ†63

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 4529CWÿ†6342DRB403E2C99A0ÿ†63

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 2C99A0ÿ†63528RB401AFCFB78ÿ†63

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: FCFB78ÿ†63628RB401B016347ÿ†63

   Subsystem 8 - Serial number: 016347ÿ†63729RB401A14854Gÿ†63

   Subsystem 9 - Serial number: 14854Gÿ†63829RB401A0ABE3Xÿ

   Subsystem 10 - Serial number: 0ABE3Xÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8P0-953-549-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 F    HW: 8P0 953 549 F
   Component: J0527           H36 0070 
   Coding: 0012142
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 418330B718B5FC850C-8014

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: E0221           H07 0090

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY7.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 H    HW: 8P0 920 981 H
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H19 0570 
   Revision: D0H19003    Serial number: 2248F003002701
   Coding: 0001268
   Shop #: WSC 20129 067 57207
   VCID: 3D7B4C47644D986568-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 J    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533__Gateway   H12 0160 
   Revision:   H12       Serial number: 320010690682A8
   Coding: BF3F034807002102
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 2E597B0BB92B73FDE1-807A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 22: AWD        Labels: None
   VCID: 55ABF4E7BC3D602540-8000

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 981 H    HW: 8P0 920 981 H
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H19 0570 
   Revision: D0H19003    Serial number: AUX7Z0F8FNF0KO
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3D7B4C47644D986568-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 035 192 G    HW: 8P0 035 192 G
   Component: RNS-E US3       H72 0150 
   Revision:      03S    Serial number: AUZBZ7F2377626
   Coding: 0209117
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 336F6A7F52095E158E-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 8P0-959-801-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 959 801 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         020 0090 
   Coding: 0001177
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 408535B313BFF58D03-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.079 H07 1806 
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 346D69635707592D97-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 959 433 D
   Component: 02 KSG          H04 0050 
   Coding: 9AC003382D08850FC88F047300
   Shop #: WSC 00137 211 56823
   VCID: 3D7B4C47644D986568-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted    

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted    

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
            000 - -

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 8P0-959-802-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 959 802 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         020 0090 
   Coding: 0001177
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 418330B718B5FC850C-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 035 192 G    HW: 8P0 035 192 G
   Component: RNS-E US3       H72 0150 
   Revision:      03S    Serial number: AUZBZ7F2377626
   Coding: 0209117
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 336F6A7F52095E158E-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 8P4-959-801.lbl
   Part No: 8P4 959 801 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         020 0070 
   Coding: 0001176
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 408535B313BFF58D03-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 8P4-959-802.lbl
   Part No: 8P4 959 802 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         020 0070 
   Coding: 0001176
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 418330B718B5FC850C-8014

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:03)--------------------------
 
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Thanks again Dave. Here is the autoscan results taken this morning:

Code:
Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 035 192 G    HW: 8P0 035 192 G
   Component: RNS-E US3       H72 0150
   Revision:      03S    Serial number: AUZBZ7F2377626
   Coding: 0209117
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 336F6A7F52095E158E-8066

No fault code found.
OK that shows you have firmware version 0150 so I guess you're still using maps from 2007 as the later US maps will update the firmware to 0260, see Audi Navigation DVD part numbers

My suggestion is that you get hold of one of the newer map DVDs (the newest listed is from 2016 8P0 060 884 CF) as this will update the firmware and then try enabling the Aux input again.
 
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Thanks! I just ordered the 8P0 060 884 CF DVD disks. I will post an update once I install.
 
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Update! YES, upgrading to 0260 allowed me to change the coding to enable the Aux input. I now have Bluetooth audio. Thank you Dave!
 
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