2.0TDI Tiguan 2017- running rough

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Fitted engine to a 2017 Tiguan, drive about 30 miles no problems now it’s jerking badly under acceleration especially in higher gears. Scanned with VCDS and no fault codes. Looked at live data but don’t see anything obvious. Anyone know what live data would be best to check. Starts and idles grand but if u put the foot down and lift straight off it seems to hunt up and down a bit before settling back to nice idle. Thanks
 
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Is the ECM giving any codes? This would be a situation where deleting codes and seeing what comes back is not a good idea, instead observe sporadic codes that only appear every once in a while.

Whats the odometer reading?

Autoscan?

Reset adaptations after fitting engine?
 
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here’s link to video of it idleing.
 
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Thanks for the quick reply Tommy

69000 but engine is out of a 2019 that had delivery miles. Was dropped in complete except the dpf.

I reset adaptions after fitting and before test drive.

No codes showing since I put it in. Even when it’s running rough and it will barley drive in 5th and 6th gear it’s that bad it still doesn’t throw a code.

Il get an auto scan tomorrow and post it. Hi
 
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Mileage would be relevant for the gearbox mostly.

Adaptations: Did you also reset the gearbox adaptations?

What was the cause of death of the old engine? Same engine code or different?
 
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Gearbox is manual 6speed so didn’t reset anything to do with gearbox.
Old engine injector went and flushed engine with diesel. When replaced there was rattle from bearings. Engine fitted was same engine code DFG.
 
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Seems to do it even if boost pipe to inlet is removed. Car drove perfect for bout 30 miles then this just came into it all of a sudden.
 
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Code:
Monday,19,September,2022,11:56:09:48937
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 22.9.0.0 (x64)
Data version: 20220830 DS341.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVGZZZ5NZJW314792 License Plate: TIGUAN 19/09
Mileage: 112134km-69676mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type 5N-VW37 (3Q0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 19 22 42 44 4B 52 5F A5 BB BC CA


VIN: WVGZZZ5NZJW314792 Mileage: 112134km-69676miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
4B-Multifunc. Module -- Status: INTERFACE NOT COMPATIBLE
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: OK 0000
BB-Door Rear Drv -- Status: OK 0000
BC-Door Rear Pass -- Status: OK 0000
CA-Sunroof -- Status: INTERFACE NOT COMPATIBLE

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Address 01: Engine (J623-DFGA) Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
Part No SW: 04L 906 026 JC HW: 04L 907 309 P
Component: R4 2.0l TDI X25 3023
Revision: B4X25--- CVN: DBFBCE1D37C5C2A2
Coding: 0119001203471D082000
Shop #: WSC 26214 051 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906026JC 004002
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906026GQ_004.rod
VCID: 74ECC9FCDF04062D57-8020
VINID: 9E65EAAAA15EA9A9C30441C908C2A18519

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 614 517 CE HW: 5Q0 614 517 AC
Component: ESC H25 0413
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 51657000000321
Coding: 0AEE929A34210B70477E070962C54950492CD0E2E046927D34605078C02A4200002F641A1B13111435351919323200
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 036010
ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_036_VW37.rod
VCID: 76E8F3F4C978143D69-8022

1 Fault Found:
16401 - Tire Pressure Warning
C102D 00 [008] - -
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 140
Mileage: 112012 km
Date: 2022.09.16
Time: 10:57:03


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (E87) Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 5NA 907 044 N HW: 5NA 907 044 N
Component: AC Automat H35 4301
Revision: 20K08000 Serial number: 00000E00566733
Coding: 0012012420211001110510000010102A
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaPrehVW37X 002023
ROD: EV_ACClimaPrehVW37X_002_VW37.rod
VCID: 4A907704ED0020DDDD-801E

Humidity sensor: exterior:

Rear air conditioning block 1:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3G0 907 049 D HW: 3G0 907 049 D
Component: E265KlimaHeck H02 0201
Serial number: 04031501850571
Coding: 000000

1 Fault Found:
262914 - Refrigerant Pressure
B10AB F0 [009] - Too Low
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 10
Reset counter: 103
Mileage: 111990 km
Date: 2022.09.14
Time: 19:57:31

Outside temperature: 14.0 °C
Engine RPM: 0 /min
Compressor current: actual value: 0.000 A
Temperature downstream of evaporator: 24.7 °C
Refrigerant pressure: 1.0 bar
System run time-Engine running time: 0 s
System run time-Terminal 15 on: 253 s


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 5Q0-937-08X-V2.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 CQ HW: 5Q0 937 084 CG
Component: BCM MQBAB H H36 0253
Serial number: 01001719301130
Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMMQB 018001
ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_018.rod
VCID: 09128808A8866BC514-805C

Wiper motor control module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5NC 955 119 HW: 5NC 955 119 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: 326 RL 170601 033 0372
Serial number: 00000001705300302501
Coding: 0E4DDD

Rain/Light Recognition Sensor:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 B HW: 5Q0 955 547 B Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
Component: RLHS 042 0105
Serial number: S5Y17M06D29H04M14S45
Coding: 00A8DD

Alarm horn:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605 A HW: 5Q0 951 605 A
Component: Sirene, DWA 005 0314
Serial number: 00000000000038690131

2 Faults Found:
204546 - Remote key 2
B147A 18 [009] - Current Too Low
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 96
Mileage: 111990 km
Date: 2022.09.14
Time: 20:10:12

Terminal 15 status: OFF
Terminal 50 status: OFF
CAN-Bus_aktiv: OFF
Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): OFF
Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): OFF
OFF: Not operated
Position lamps: Not operated
Automatic high beam assist: operated
Low beam: Not operated
Parking light left: Not operated
Parking light right: Not operated
last_wakeup: no cause for fault protection
Voltage: 12.1 V
Outside temperature: 14.0 °C

264452 - No Communications with Anti-Theft Sensor
U10F4 00 [009] - -
[New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 96
Mileage: 111990 km
Date: 2022.09.14
Time: 19:57:30

Terminal 15 status: On
Terminal 50 status: OFF
CAN-Bus_aktiv: On
Status Bremslichtschalter (HW): OFF
Status Bremslichtschalter (CAN): OFF
OFF: Not operated
Position lamps: Not operated
Automatic high beam assist: operated
Low beam: Not operated
Parking light left: Not operated
Parking light right: Not operated
last_wakeup: no cause for fault protection
Voltage: 12.0 V
Outside temperature: 14.0 °C


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446) Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 919 294 B HW: 3Q0 919 294
Component: PDC 8 Kanal H07 0029
Serial number: 001306177478031
Coding: 0071451801
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHBO18VW3260000 007018
ROD: EV_EPHBO18VW3260000_SK37.rod
VCID: 38743DCC83ECA24DBB-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428) Labels:| 2Q0-907-572.clb
Part No SW: 2Q0 907 572 M HW: 2Q0 907 572 B
Component: ACCCONTIMQB H02 0233
Coding: 2A0067C158FF8728749C8145604087
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCMRRCONTIVW376 002012
ROD: EV_ACCMRRCONTIVW376_002.rod
VCID: 3E782BD4A1C89C7D71-806A

1 Fault Found:
2068 - Databus
U1123 00 [008] - Received Error Message
[New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 14
Reset counter: 143
Mileage: 111990 km
Date: 2022.09.15
Time: 18:04:07

Voltage terminal 15: 14.6 V
Control Module temperature: 25 °C
Velocity_vehicle_reference: 17.19 m/s
Longitudinal_acceleration_vehicle_reference: 1.69 m/s²
Status_ACC_System: ACC_StandBy


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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 BJ HW: 5Q0 959 655 BJ
Component: AirbagVW21 005 0336
Serial number: 003VWR34CHDD
Coding: 98CCC0C00C0000005C5400CF008800000065
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002158
ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X_VW37.rod
VCID: 09128808A8866BC514-805C

Left seat belt tensioner:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4M0 980 945 A HW: 4M0 980 945 A
Component: BeltPretRevFL 106 1032
Serial number: 5NC857705C0011R01661
Coding: 80000D

Right seat belt tensioner:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4M0 980 946 A HW: 4M0 980 946 A
Component: BeltPretRevFR 106 1032
Serial number: 5NC857706C0006R00042
Coding: 80000D

Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 001 407 17
Component: SideSensor_Df 001 0887
Serial number: 3570000000059990952K
Coding: 2D2D2D

Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 001 407 17
Component: SideSensor_Pf 001 0887
Serial number: 358000000003A180952B
Coding: 2D2D2D

Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 402 806 17
Component: SideSensor_Dr 000 6149
Serial number: 3510001C924A431252F-
Coding: 2D2D2D

Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 402 806 17
Component: SideSensor_Pr 000 6149
Serial number: 3520001C52527AF5C235
Coding: 2D2D2D

Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 402 806 17
Component: FrontSensor_D 000 6149
Serial number: 3550001AF25B1D15230$
Coding: 2D2D2D

Driver's side crash data pedestrian protection:
Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 401 910 17
Component: PedP_Sensor_D 000 6149
Serial number: 2280001A5275C8A66312
Coding: 2D2D2D

Passenger's side crash data pedestrian protection:
Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 401 910 17
Component: PedP_Sensor_P 000 6149
Serial number: 2290001C12645284219R
Coding: 2D2D2D

Center pedestrian protection crash sensor:
Subsystem 10 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 401 910 17
Component: PedP_Sensor_C 000 6149
Serial number: 2300001C12645284C80R
Coding: 2D2D2D

Driver's side crash data pedestrian protection 2:
Subsystem 11 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 000 911 17
Component: PedPSensor_D2 001 0887
Serial number: I0M0000000010354B82V
Coding: 2D2D2D

Passenger's side crash data pedestrian protection 2:
Subsystem 12 - Part No SW: ----------- HW: 480 000 911 17
Component: PedPSensor_P2 001 0887
Serial number: I0N0000000018C24B823
Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J524) Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 953 521 CS HW: 5Q0 953 569 A
Component: Lenks.Modul 075 0235
Revision: FF035035 Serial number: 20170117500308
Coding: 0010
Shop #: WSC 00002 790 00051
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB 001015
ROD: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB.rod
VCID: 030E9A208AAA31955E-8056

1 Fault Found:
617752 - Selector Lever Park Position Lock Switch
B1162 29 [009] - Signal Implausible
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 96
Mileage: 111990 km
Date: 2022.09.15
Time: 18:03:23

Ubat 30 Voltage: 14.20 V
Ignition State: On
Terminal 15: 13.40 V
A/D #1: 0.39 %
A/D #2: 0.00 %
A/D #3: 0.00 %


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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
Part No SW: 5NA 920 791 B HW: 5NA 920 791 B
Component: KOMBI 407 3193
Coding: 27AD00006F8C060001887F031401000000000000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009058
ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
VCID: 42805F24D530F89D15-8016

1 Fault Found:
16776982 - Databus
U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
[New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 96
Mileage: 111990 km
Date: 2022.09.14
Time: 20:06:32


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:| 3Q0-907-530-V1.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 907 530 G HW: 3Q0 907 530 C
Component: GW MQB High 518 5304
Serial number: 16061710802510
Coding: 030500045F087300FB07225E0A0F00010001070000000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
GVL: 01D63C0000000000408C80000000480010000000000200000000000000000000
ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewNF 013023
ROD: EV_GatewNF_VW37.rod
VCID: 336E0AE09A8A41158E-8066

Generator:

Multifunction steering wheel control module:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 N HW: 5G0 959 442 N Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
Component: E221__MFL-DC1 H11 0040
Serial number: 39170001672310097246
Coding: 2CFFFF

Battery Monitoring Control Module:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5QA 915 181 D HW: 5QA 915 181 D
Component: J367-BDMHella H10 9070
Serial number: 1481374304

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD (J492) Labels:* 0CQ-907-554.clb
Part No SW: 0CQ 907 554 H HW: 0CQ 525 130
Component: Haldex4Motion H52 7083
Serial number: HA1-00019.05.17
Coding: 0101
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X 004013
ROD: EV_AllWheelContrHA1VW37X_004.rod
VCID: 4A907704ED0020DDDD-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 E HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
Component: TSG FS 020 0041
Serial number: 090417ED90843A
Coding: 003F0220D001048000001000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
VCID: 438E5A20CA2AF1951E-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 T HW: 5Q0 909 144 R
Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS 128 1072
Coding: 9107
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 013144
ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_013.rod
VCID: 458A4438C41ECFA530-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 4B: Multifunc. Module
Interface not compatible.
Please upgrade to a current Ross-Tech interface.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
Component: TSG BFS 020 0041
Serial number: 100617EFA19362
Coding: 003F0020DE01048000001000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
VCID: 42805F24D530F89D15-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 035 874 C HW: 3Q0 035 874 C
Component: MU-S-ND-ER H41 0469
Serial number: VWZAZ2T1424066
Coding: 02730601FF00000051110101008808001F0506E6012000008F
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW37.rod
VCID: 32600FE46590481D85-8066

Display and control head 1 for information electronics:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G6 919 605 B HW: 5G6 919 605 B
Component: ABT_Std-2_Nav H50 8130
Serial number: VWZ6ZHT1911844

Data carrier:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3G0 919 866 BC HW: -----------
Component: ECE1 2017/18 --- 0820
Serial number: --------------------

1 Fault Found:
1637 - Interface for External Media
U11B8 00 [008] - No Communications
[New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 143
Mileage: 112117 km
Date: 2022.09.16
Time: 15:23:37

Voltage terminal 30: 13.3 V
Interface for external media: status-Status: Open circuit


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Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242) Labels:| 3Q0-980-65X-A5.clb
Part No SW: 3Q0 980 654 H HW: 3Q0 980 654 A
Component: MQB_B_MFK H07 0272
Serial number: 11071711P10866
Coding: 0003070600000401000213448150A90094000E200040
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschMQBB 001001
ROD: EV_MFKBoschMQBB_001_VW36.rod
VCID: 3C7C21DCB7D48E6D5F-8068

No fault code found.

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Address BB: Door Rear Drv (J388) Labels:* None
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 595 E HW: 5Q0 959 595 B
Component: TSG HFS 020 0041
Serial number: 020717EG13818B
Coding: 002A00200100048000001000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCURearDriveMAXKLO 006003
ROD: EV_DCURearDriveMAXCONT.rod
VCID: 458A4438C41ECFA530-8010

No fault code found.

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Address BC: Door Rear Pass (J389) Labels:* None
Part No SW: 5Q0 959 595 E HW: 5Q0 959 595 B
Component: TSG HBFS 020 0041
Serial number: 060617EF606124
Coding: 002A00200100048000001000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_DCURearPasseMAXKLO 006003
ROD: EV_DCURearPasseMAXCONT.rod
VCID: 458A4438C41ECFA530-8010

No fault code found.

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Address CA: Sunroof
Interface not compatible.
Please upgrade to a current Ross-Tech interface.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 05:02)--------------------------
 
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If I flock turbo actuator vaccine pipe and give it Rev it doesn’t do it but it goes into limp mode so not sure if it’s just a red hearing or not.
 
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sounds like it's running on 3 pistons...?
 
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Done a compression test and alls good that way. Even swapped over set of injectors to rule them out and no difference. Engine runs perfect until I give it a hard Rev and let off quick when sitting and when driving if I drive up the road accelerating steady it drives ok till I get too 3rd gear then u start to feel it starting to shake. 5th and 6th are near impossible if u try accelerating it really shakes bad but if u keep steady speed not as bad. Anyone know could it be a balance shaft? Or would it be doing it all the time.
 
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Anyone know could egr be causing this? EGR was turned off and stage one map on last engine. When this engine was fitted and all adaptions carried out except EGR as it was turned off. So could driving the car after adaptions have somehow cause EGR to start to function incorrectly or even set slightly open hence the problem and no codes?
 
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