Brake light switch touran golf mk5

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Hello there this is my first time posting so do excuse me if i make some mistakes, for the last 3 years i have been trying to build a 2.0tdi dsg caddy starting from an 07 2k caddy introducing meny parts from an 06 touran and a further 07 touran, so far i have managed to get 80% of my vision compleate but am now finding some more dificult parts to figure out.

this specif falt that im tring to rectify is brake light fault the loom is from a 2007 touran where the B/S is located on the brake booster however the engin ecu cluster and BCM are all from a 2006 model where the brake switch is fitted to the brake pedal , my question is are both wired to the same location i have found relevent documentaion from erwin-VW but cant seem to find any deviation.

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Saturday,06,August,2022,20:20:18:08740
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VCDS Version: 22.3.1.4 (x64)
Data version: 20220407 DS337.0
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VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ8P008353   License Plate: CADDY 060822
Mileage: 131070km-81443mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 56 76 7D

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ8P008353   Mileage: 131070km-81443miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: Not registered 0011
37-Navigation -- Status: Not registered 0011
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
76-Park Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.clb
   Part No SW: 03G 906 016 HK    HW: 028 101 225 1
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000AG  7000
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
   Coding: 0000078
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 73E5C1AA12970C17C2-8026
   VINID: 9E69EAAAA05BA888000080C50C0763C5C1

1 Fault Found:
18049 - Please check DTC Memory of A/C Controller
            P1641 - 000 -
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Torque: 12.0 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 11.86 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00001110
                    Temperature: 59.4°C
                    (no units): 144.0

Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 042 G    HW: 02E 927 770 AE
   Component: GSG DSG         070 0918
   Revision: 04507000    Serial number: 00000508010704
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 173DD53A26AF80371E-8042

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AA    HW: 1K0 907 379 AA
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102
   Revision: 00H13001  
   Coding: 0023238
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 71E9CBA2688B3E0730-8024

2 Faults Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            008 - Implausible Signal
01486 - System Function Test Activated
            000 - -

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 044 AG
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 066 0505
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6CD7DAD64FA9D3EF03-8038

5 Faults Found:
00402 - Auxiliary Air Heater Element (Z35)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
00757 - Right Vent Temp Sensor (G151)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
00797 - Sunlight Photo Sensor (G107)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
00709 - Sunlight Photosensor 2 (G134)
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
00819 - High Pressure Sensor (G65)
            009 - Open or Short to Ground

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 D    HW: 3C0 937 049 D
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000005092623
   Coding: 00890F214104100064120C000000000000087B075C
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 2A5B1CCE85DD0DDFB1-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Component: Fehler Lin-Slave 01

6 Faults Found:
02071 - Local Databus
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Mileage: 131074 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01117 - Generator Terminal DF Load Signal
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Mileage: 131074 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

02195 - Dimmer Switch Instrument Panel & Switch Lighting (E20)
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101001
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 131074 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00483 - Control Module for Auxiliary Air Heater
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Mileage: 131074 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01207 - Control Module for Auxiliary Heater (J364)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Mileage: 131074 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00153 - Windshield Wiper Motor;  Driver Side (V216)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Mileage: 131074 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW52.lbl
   Part No SW: 6Q0 909 605 AH    HW: 6Q0 909 605 AH
   Component: 09 AIRBAG VW52  023 2400
   Revision: 04023000    Serial number: 0037TD0EP0PU
   Coding: 0012345
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00158
   VCID: 7DF1E79224D34A67A4-8028

1 Fault Found:
00591 - Seat Belt Switch; Driver (E24)
            007 - Short to Ground - MIL ON

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AQ    HW: 1K0 953 549 AQ
   Component: J0527           036 0070
   Coding: 0003141
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 01099B62582B2E87C0-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: E0221           007 0050

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 974 B    HW: 1K0 920 974 B
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1216
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0G53NB8MJ
   Coding: 0000403
   Shop #: WSC 00671 210 95609
   VCID: 2D5117D2B4331AE754-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: Gateway         H10 0120
   Revision:   H10       Serial number: 28001061200A8C
   Coding: 3F0F0F40057401
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 2A5B1CCE85DD0DDFB1-807E

2 Faults Found:
00483 - Control Module for Auxiliary Air Heater
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Mileage: 131074 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 22:57:30

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Mileage: 131074 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 22:57:34


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 974 B    HW: 1K0 920 974 B
   Component: IMMO            VDD 1216
   Revision: V0002000    Serial number: VWX7Z0G53NB8MJ
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D5117D2B4331AE754-8078

2 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module
            014 - Defective
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101110
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 45782 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:15:55

01176 - Key
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 131074 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 22:57:28


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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 1T0-919-887.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 919 887 DX
   Component:      Navigation     0421
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 00445 210 83427
   VCID: 1B35C90ADA87E4573A-804E

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 D    HW: 1T0 959 701 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1206
   Coding: 0000564
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 387F36864B71AF4F37-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5   D04 1606
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 336501AA52174C1702-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 CP
   Component:    KSG              0401
   Coding: 808E0C087F2D0F0FC8DA031010C0
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 00158
   VCID: 000F9E665321278FCF-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted   

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted   

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted   

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 D    HW: 1T0 959 702 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         006 1206
   Coding: 0000564
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 39793382707BB647C8-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1T0-035-095.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 035 095 X
   Component:        Radio        0421
   Coding: 0004402
   Shop #: WSC 00445 210 83427
   VCID: 4385516A02B7FC9792-8016

7 Faults Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00879 - Connection to Speaker Front Right
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
00880 - Connection to Speaker Rear Left
            011 - Open Circuit
00881 - Connection to Speaker Rear Right
            011 - Open Circuit
00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
00858 - Connection; Radio Intermediate Frequency (IF) Output to Antenna Amplifier
            007 - Short to Ground

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 1K0-919-283.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 919 283 A
   Component: 02 Einparkhilfe     0101
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D5117D2B4331AE754-8078

4 Faults Found:
01547 - Sensor for Parking Aid; Rear Mid-Right (G205)
            014 - Defective
00437 - Rear Right Inner Parking Aid Sensor (G335)
            014 - Defective
00436 - Rear Left Inner Parking Aid Sensor (G334)
            014 - Defective
01546 - Sensor for Parking Aid; Rear Mid-Left (G204)
            014 - Defective

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat
Cannot be reached

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:15)--------------------------
 
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There isn't a brake light switch fault showing? What is the actual problem you're having?


Have you changed ABS types? The ABS in the scan is a "ESP FRONT MK60" version, which Is more likely to have come from a Touran, than Caddy? The Caddy often had no ESP.

I would suggest coding it all correctly, before bothering with other faults - the fact it says "implausible signal" could be triggering other problems, or could be the cause of the brake lights not working as intended. Each of the systems has to have the correct parts and config. If the ABS is looking for different wheel speed sensors, or other modules with correct coding, but can't find them - it won't be happy!

The ABS is unhappy, as is the Cent. Elecs (local databus fault) and the CAN gateway (coding).

Some modules may need coding for what ABS is fitted (they may have coding independent of the ABS, for the ABS type) (possibly central elecs and cluster???).
Have you also made all the relevant wiring changes (like from the J519 for the difference between auto and manual?) then coded the module to suit?

Have you verified the real year of the donor cars (by VIN, not that irrelvant UK "plate" bullcrap). The scan VIN says 2008, but also appears to be from a Golf (Engine ECU?). The Cluster seems to be an IMMO4C type, which is generally 2007 onwards for MK5 based VW models.

I've never seen a Touran with a pedal mounted brake switch, but I've never seen a Touran that didn't have ESP either (I'm in NZ). I have a very early 2004 model, an early 2006 and a late 2006 (still prefacelift, but with "normal" wipers and later plastic inside etc) All have no pedal switch, but are ESP, obviously.
 
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