2010 Audi a6 Quattro Brake change

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Hey, i was wondering if someone can help me out. I changed my front and rear brakes i followed ross tech instructions open and closed the rear caliper like i was told when i replace the brakes did basic settings after replacement. Basic settings was on and was green but now its red and saying off. I have no fault codes at all thats why i didnt post any. My pedal goes to the floor because no brake fluid is going through my system at all and when i put the car and reverse are drive my car dont move at all. Its like something is wrong with my system without seeing any fault codes. Ill post my scan if needed. Thanks!
 
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Post auto scan. Also what was changed exactly??
 
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Yes, please do.

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I change my brakes because the brakes was bad. It stop sending brake fluid to my brakes lines so i thought it was the master cylinder i just replace the master cylinder and it still doing the same thing. When i try to pump them its not getting pressure also my abs light comes on when i press the brakes but my abs module is not showing any codes. The scan is now attached.

Code:
Wednesday,27,July,2022,05:39:09:05661

VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64

VCDS Version: 22.3.1.4 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4615.4

Data version: 20220407 DS337.0

www.Ross-Tech.com





VIN: WAUKGAFB7AN036515 License Plate:

Mileage: 238780km-148371mi Repair Order:







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Chassis Type: FB-AU56 (4F0)

Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 36 42 46 47 4C 4F 52 53 55

56 5F 62 6C 72



VIN: WAUKGAFB7AN036515 Mileage: 238780km-148371miles



01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010

02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000

03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010

04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000

05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000

08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000

09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010

0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000

15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010

16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000

17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010

19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010

36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000

42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000

46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010

47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000

4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100

4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000

52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000

53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000

55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010

56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010

5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010

62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000

6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000

72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (CCA) Labels:. 06E-907-551-CAJ.clb

Part No SW: 4F1 910 551 D HW: 4F1 907 551

Component: 3.0l V6 TFSI 0050

Revision: --H06--- Serial number:

Coding: 0105000A190F0120

Shop #: WSC 08175 444 103843

VCID: 2412E4F0D2DA9EFB8B7-8070

VINID: 9D195B5D15921D17800C614114B21EF9A6



1 Fault Found:

053271 - Please Check Fault Codes in Control Module for ABS Brakes

U1017 - 000 - - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00101000

Fault Priority: 1

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 255

Mileage: 238788 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2022.07.27

Time: 13:52:28



Freeze Frame:

RPM: 1664 /min

Mass Air / Rev.: 152.6 mg/str

Temperature: 57.0C

Bin. Bits: 00000010

Load: 12.9 %

Speed: 0.0 km/h



Readiness: 1110 1001



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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl

Part No SW: 4F9 910 156 A HW: 09L 927 156 C

Component: AG6 09L 3,0TFSI USA 0010

Revision: --H04--- Serial number: 4539555

Coding: 0000002

Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200

VCID: 2A0E0AC8B0FE488BB1B-807E



No fault code found.



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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4F0-910-517.clb

Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 AL HW: 4F0 614 517 BA

Component: ESP8 quattro H03 0060

Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000

Coding: 0020921

Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200

VCID: 6E86C6D84C9664AB2D3-803A



1 Fault Found:

01486 - System Function Test Activated

000 - -

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01100000

Fault Priority: 3

Fault Frequency: 60

Reset counter: 101

Mileage: 238788 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2022.07.24

Time: 20:39:07



Freeze Frame:

Hex Value: 0x0000

Hex Value: 0x4282

Hex Value: 0x0021

Hex Value: 0x418F

Hex Value: 0x00FF





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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels:. 4F0-910-852.clb

Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 B HW: 4F0 905 852 E

Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV H05 0100

Revision: 00H05000 Serial number: 10602501421794

Coding: 0000007

Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200

VCID: 2514F9F4D9E067F39C9-8070



Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 132 L

Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS H03 0020



Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 335 B

Component: FBSAUDIC6 KSG H03 0020



No fault code found.



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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 4F0-910-043.clb

Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 B HW: 4F1 820 043 AL

Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH30 0080

Revision: 00000076 Serial number: 00000030563599

Coding: 0524326

Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200

VCID: 1D64D114F1B0AF33C49-8048



No fault code found.



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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl

Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 Q HW: 4F0 907 279 A

Component: ILM Fahrer H24 0340

Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 4F0907279

Coding: 0139123

Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200

VCID: 372823BC734CE5633E5-8062



Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F1 910 113 D Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB

Component: Wischer AudiC6 H10 0040

Coding: 00056595

Shop #: WSC 02335



Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8K0 910 557 Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB

Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH04 0003

Coding: 00146221

Shop #: WSC 02335



2 Faults Found:

01494 - Bulb for Parking Lamps; Left (M1)

011 - Open Circuit

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01101011

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 101

Mileage: 238788 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2022.07.24

Time: 20:39:00



01498 - Bulb for Parking Lamps; Right (M3)

011 - Open Circuit

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01101011

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 101

Mileage: 238788 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2022.07.24

Time: 20:39:00





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Address 0E: Media Player 1 (R41) Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl

Part No SW: 4F0 035 110 A HW: 4F0 035 110

Component: CDC-MP3-Alp H44 0140

Revision: AA001001

VCID: 1574C9340580F7730C9-8040



No fault code found.



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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:* 4F0-910-655-10.clb

Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 R HW: 4F0 959 655 H

Component: Airbag AU1042 H06 0160

Revision: -------- Serial number: 003FA0012RDS

Coding: 303142373034303030314A55304C34463053

Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200

ASAM Dataset: EV_Airba10AURB4 001001

ROD: EV_Airba10AURB4.rod

VCID: 36362EB878C61C6B253-8062



Seat occupied recognition:

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4F0 910 339 B HW: 4F0 959 339 B

Component: BF-Gewichtss. H03 0060

Serial number: 5810000R0000003W4J

Coding: 000000



Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:

Serial number: 3574SRB400009FDD0ABV



Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:

Serial number: 3584SRB400009F94E27L



Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):

Serial number: 3516HRB402VC0AS50SV6



Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:

Serial number: 3526HRB402VC0AS4OKNE



Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:

Serial number: 3554NRB40000517EBB79



Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:

Serial number: 3564NRB4000051197E1Z



1 Fault Found:

12583424 - Powertrain Databus

U0002 00 [008] - No Communications

[High Speed CAN Communication Bus no signal/communication]

Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00000001

Fault Priority: 6

Fault Frequency: 1





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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl

Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 A HW: 4F0 953 549 D

Component: J0527 0530

Revision: 00H05000 Serial number: 90026092900003

Coding: 0012141

Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200

VCID: 2708F3FCA3EC75E3AE5-8072



Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX

Component: E0221 H02 0030



No fault code found.



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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:. 4F0-920-xxx-17.clb

Part No SW: 4F0 920 983 H HW: 4F0 920 983 H

Component: KOMBIINSTR. H08 0144

Revision: 00000000 Serial number: CN450YEA9

Coding: 8BD60A050B00CF05020201

Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573

VCID: 313C1DA491283B53701-8064



1 Fault Found:

01325 - Control Module for Tire Pressure Monitoring (J502)

004 - No Signal/Communication

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01100100

Fault Priority: 6

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 97

Mileage: 238788 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2022.07.24

Time: 20:39:29





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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 4F0-907-468.clb

Part No SW: 4F0 907 468 M HW: 4F0 907 468 F

Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H06 0035

Revision: LB100029 Serial number: 2900L09A1700BA

Coding: 000303

Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573

VCID: 392C25844958F313C81-806C



Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8X0 915 181 HW: 8X0 915 181

Component: J367-BDM H07 0141

Serial number: 00000000005650459629



2 Faults Found:

03109 - Tire Pressure Monitoring Control Module 2 (J793)

004 - No Signal/Communication

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01100100

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 100

Mileage: 238788 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2022.07.25

Time: 15:10:56



Freeze Frame:

Bin. Bits: 11111

Voltage: 11.90 V

Count: 7

Bin. Bits: 10011

Time: 25.40 s



03041 - Energy Management Active

000 - -

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01100000

Fault Priority: 7

Fault Frequency: 15

Reset counter: 101

Mileage: 238788 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2022.07.25

Time: 15:12:29



Freeze Frame:

Bin. Bits: 10111

Voltage: 11.00 V

Count: 7





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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136) Labels: None

Part No SW: 4F0 959 760 C HW: 4F0 959 760 C

Component: MEM-FS H08 0062

Revision: AA000000 Serial number: 00001010017085

Coding: 00581B00004011110000

Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573

VCID: 313C1DA491283B53701-8064



No fault code found.



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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels:. 4F0-959-793.clb

Part No SW: 4F0 959 793 R HW: 8K0 959 793 D

Component: TSG FA H11 0250

Revision: Serial number: 0000102168472

Coding: 011F57204E40410001

Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573

VCID: 46D65E7808A68CEBB53-8012



No fault code found.



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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels:. 4F0-910-289.lbl

Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 N HW: 4F0 907 289 N

Component: Komfortgeraet H29 0250

Revision: 02500029 Serial number: 01229654010000

Coding: 4618269

Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200

VCID: 353429B4694017732C9-8060



Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C

Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301



2 Faults Found:

01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)

012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01101100

Fault Priority: 3

Fault Frequency: 254

Reset counter: 101

Mileage: 208933 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2020.06.29

Time: 14:18:38



02743 - Bulb for Brake/Turn Signal Light; Right

009 - Open or Short to Ground

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01101001

Fault Priority: 3

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 99

Mileage: 238788 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2022.07.25

Time: 12:51:49





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Address 47: Sound System (J525) Labels: Redir Fail!

Part No SW: 4F0 035 223 P HW: 4F0 035 223 P

Component: BOSE G3 C6 H01 0100

Revision: AG001300 Serial number: 00000000041814

Coding: 05000000

Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573

VCID: 290CF5C4B9F84393B81-807C



No fault code found.



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Address 4C: Tire Pressure II

Cannot be reached



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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl

Part No SW: 4F0 910 280 HW: 4F0 907 280 C

Component: ILM Beifahrer H13 0100

Revision: Serial number: 00000000509539

Coding: 0002014

Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200

VCID: 5EE69618BC36F42B9D3-800A



No fault code found.



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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels:. 4F0-959-792.clb

Part No SW: 4F0 959 792 R HW: 8K0 959 792 D

Component: TSG BF H11 0250

Revision: Serial number: 0000102131826

Coding: 011F57204E40410001

Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573

VCID: 45D4597435A087F3BC9-8010



No fault code found.



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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb

Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 D HW: 4F0 907 801 B

Component: EPB CEFC0090 H05 0090

Revision: --H05---

Coding: 0000222

Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200

VCID: 211CEDE4CDC88BD3E01-8074



No fault code found.



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Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl

Part No SW: 4L0 910 357 HW: 4L0 907 357

Component: AFS 1 H01 0060

Revision: 00000001 Serial number:

Coding: 0000026

Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200

VCID: 698CB5C475788393781-803C



Subsystem 1 - Part No: -----------

Component: AFS-Modul links



Subsystem 2 - Part No: -----------

Component: AFS-Modul rechts



1 Fault Found:

02071 - Local Databus

004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 11100100

Fault Priority: 2

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 97

Mileage: 238788 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2022.07.24

Time: 20:39:40





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Address 56: Radio (R) Labels:. 4F0-035-0xx-56.clb

Part No SW: 4F0 035 082 A HW: 4F0 035 082

Component: Radio U SIRIU H45 0021

Revision: AB001007 Serial number: 335J-097535137

Coding: 020000010000000000

Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573

VCID: 1D64D114FDB0AF33C49-8048



1 Fault Found:

02788 - Internal Communications Error

000 - -

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01100000

Fault Priority: 7

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 97

Mileage: 238788 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2022.07.24

Time: 20:40:44



Freeze Frame:

Bin. Bits: 00000001





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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb

Part No SW: 4E0 035 664 A HW: 4E0 035 664 A

Component: H-BN-NA H45 0042

Revision: -------- Serial number: 488J/097520192

Coding: 010200000002E1FE41000304EF6300030000

Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573

VCID: 221EE2E8C4CE90CBF9B-8076



Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 F

Component: NAR 2009/2010 5304



Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4F0 919 604 HW: 4F0 919 604

Component: DU7 High H43 0306

Serial number: 9356JX091091752



Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4F0 910 609 E HW: 4F1 919 611 T

Component: Bedienteil MM H01 0060

Serial number: 00000001422512



Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 906 961 A

Component: CD-Database 1293



2 Faults Found:

02244 - Button in Control Head is Stuck

000 - - - Intermittent

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 00100000

Fault Priority: 5

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 139

Mileage: 238788 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2022.07.25

Time: 12:39:13



Freeze Frame:

Voltage: 11.60 V

Bin. Bits: 10000000 00000000

Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000



03157 - Functionality limited due to Communications Disruption

000 - -

Freeze Frame:

Fault Status: 01100000

Fault Priority: 6

Fault Frequency: 1

Reset counter: 97

Mileage: 238788 km

Time Indication: 0

Date: 2022.07.24

Time: 20:40:01



Freeze Frame:

Bin. Bits: 00000000 10000000

Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000

Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000

Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000





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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388) Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb

Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M HW: 8K0 959 795 B

Component: TSG HL H10 0251

Revision: Serial number: 0000009496373

Coding: 010E57204040220001

Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573

VCID: 43D0476C3B94B9C392D-8016



No fault code found.



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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb

Part No SW: 4F0 910 441 D HW: 4L0 907 441 B

Component: J772__Rearview 0030

Revision: --H03--- Serial number: 525PA8-J9925BW

Coding: 1000304

Shop #: WSC 02145 785 00200

VCID: 211CEDE4CDC88BD3E01-8074



No fault code found.



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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389) Labels:. 4F0-959-795.clb

Part No SW: 4F0 959 795 M HW: 8K0 959 795 B

Component: TSG HR H10 0251

Revision: Serial number: 0000009496374

Coding: 010E57204040220001

Shop #: WSC 02391 823 56573

VCID: 43D0476C3B94B9C392D-8016



No fault code found.



End----(Elapsed Time: 01:45, VBatt start/end: 11.6V/11.6V. VIgn 11.5V)-----
 
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Post auto scan. Also what was changed exactly??
Ibe posted the scan above this response and what i changed. The traction light is on but when i press the brakes it goes off and the abs light comes on.
 
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When i try to pump them its not getting pressure also my abs light comes on when i press the brakes but my abs module is not showing any codes

your abs brakes shows a fault code ( System test activated ) .We shall get to that shortly after you explain the following : the fact that you say you have no pressure in the brake pedal you say ? In your abs MVB do you see where it says brake pedal pressure measurement? I can t remember on what channel your brake pessure sensor measures is because i'm too old and can't keep up with all info , but you should start with MVB 001 and go up and see values.When you get to brake pressure, tell us how many bars you see there before you press brake pedal and while you press brake pedal. Perhaps the bleeding of the brakes is not complete.
Please post those values. Also, despite the fact that your abs light is blinking ( we'll get to that later) , you should still have a good mechanical brake at your wheels.
 
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your abs brakes shows a fault code ( System test activated ) .We shall get to that shortly after you explain the following : the fact that you say you have no pressure in the brake pedal you say ? In your abs MVB do you see where it says brake pedal pressure measurement? I can t remember on what channel your brake pessure sensor measures is because i'm too old and can't keep up with all info , but you should start with MVB 001 and go up and see values.When you get to brake pressure, tell us how many bars you see there before you press brake pedal and while you press brake pedal. Perhaps the bleeding of the brakes is not complete.
Please post those values. Also, despite the fact that your abs light is blinking ( we'll get to that later) , you should still have a good mechanical break at your wheels.
Sytem test is now gone i was able to drive my car down the street and turn 90 degree angle it cleared the test. I did it because i thought that was holding the system from not working properly but the brake system is not coming to a stop immediately and they are brand new brakes on front and rear.

My brake pressure reads -33 bar without pressing them in.

When i press the brakes in it get to about 62.30 bar

Brake pressure(G518) Front Left: N/A
Brake pressure(G519) Front Right: N/A
 
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Did you bench bleed the master before installing it??
 
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Did you bench bleed the master before installing it??
No i didn't i installed the master cylinder and just bled the brakes as normal. I thought that would get all the air out that way didnt know i had to bench bleed the master cylinder before hand but want that still let air in the system once i go to put it on after the bench bleed?
 
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New brakes ( rotors and pads ) tend to be mushy when brand new , they will not freeze the car right away. Pressures seems to be ok..but you will need to grind in those brakes for about 200 kms or so ...then they will have the stopping power. So if brake assembly new , i d suggest you take it easy on the brakes for now and wait for them to grind in
 
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No i didn't i installed the master cylinder and just bled the brakes as normal. I thought that would get all the air out that way didnt know i had to bench bleed the master cylinder before hand but want that still let air in the system once i go to put it on after the bench bleed?
If you didn't bench bleed the master I would start there and try to get all the air out of the master first. Normally the best the approach is to just crack one of the 2 lines at a time, coming from the master to the abs unit and bleed all the air out.
 
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New brakes ( rotors and pads ) tend to be mushy when brand new , they will not freeze the car right away. Pressures seems to be ok..but you will need to grind in those brakes for about 200 kms or so ...then they will have the stopping power. So if brake assembly new , i d suggest you take it easy on the brakes for now and wait for them to grind in
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If you didn't bench bleed the master I would start there and try to get all the air out of the master first. Normally the best the approach is to just crack one of the 2 lines at a time, coming from the master to the abs unit and bleed all the air out.
Ok ill give it a try tomorrow i went brought a bleeder kit so i should be able to get all the air out the system now
 
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Lots of VW/Audi cars have a pressure bleeder recommended. It's intended to be used when using the bleed procedure for the ABS unit on MK5 based cars. I did it on my Touran and the pressure and the automatic fluid replenishment make it get plenty of fluid flowing out of the bleed nipples. The constant flow means the bubbles don't get a chance to float back up brake lines anywhere either... but I think I used about 4 litres of fluid!
 
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