Clock spring query

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Hi all

I have a noisey clock spring on my 2014 Passat B7 I need part no. 5K0953569AS however it is on back order ! With no estimate on availability, I may have to source one outwith the vw network (Ebay) I wondered if the software version would always be the same with the identical part number ?
Currently it is only noisey although I worry it may fail soon and as my car is due its MOT(inspection in the USA) in September if it was to fail and cause an Airbag light my car would have to be taken off the road.

I have seen parts available in Europe and the USA and once I factor in Tax and duty they are quite expensive so I don't want to make an error.

I don't have access to a recent scan just now

Thanks
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Just noticed I posted in the wrong section
 
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Please post a complete and unedited Auto-Scan so the forum can comment on your application. Including the VIN so that your PN can be verified.



Here is another ; a bit closer to home!

 
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Scan attached my question is will the software version be different on a replacement with the same part number and if so will it cause any issues ?

Thanks
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Code:
Sunday,12,February,2017,10:58:05:04925
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170203 DS267.2
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ3CZFE037171   License Plate: CHILLOUT
Mileage: 23850km-14819mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 3C (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 25 2E 37 42 44 46 47 4C 4F 52
          53 55 56 61 62 6D 72

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZFE037171   Mileage: 23850km-14819miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CFFB)       Labels: 03L-906-018-CFF.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 018 PA    HW: 03L 907 309 AE
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H28 9978 
   Revision: 41H28---    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 001D0012042501080000
Shop #: WSC 34742 001 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018PA 003009
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018PA.rod
   VCID: 78F5D876C3C07681D1-802C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 062 B    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
Component: GSG DSG AG6 521 4017
   Revision: 05652104    Serial number: 00001406120657
   Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00001
   VCID: 142D8CC63768B2E15D-8040

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 3AA-614-109.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 614 109 BM    HW: 3AA 614 109 BM
   Component: J104   C2 450M VD50 0040 
   Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000008306711
   Coding: 0008115
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00001
   VCID: 79F3DD7230CA6F89AE-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 044 BT    HW: 3AA 907 044 BT
   Component: Climatronic   H05 0607 
   Revision: 00001K02   
   Coding: 061400C803
Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01010
ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 030FBF9A8A062559F4-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 3AA-937-087.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 937 087 Q    HW: 3AA 937 087 Q
Component: BCM PQ47 H+ 422 0475
   Revision: BC422001   
   Coding: 0208000000000000009C0080740029F423F54B88676D8760E488C7240041
Shop #: WSC 05311 123 00001
   VCID: 489568B6FBA0C60161-801C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AC 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 20061  26  0612
   Coding: 00B795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
Component: RLS 110714 05 54 0403
   Coding: 0630ED

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels: 3AE-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 3AE 919 475 C    HW: 7N0 919 475
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0018 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 28201418200198
   Coding: 108102
Shop #: WSC 99999 1023 2097151
ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW47X0000 001006
ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW4280000.rod
   VCID: 3F87736AA66E81B9D0-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 AE    HW: 5N0 959 655 AE
   Component: J234__10J VW10 HI   2418 
   Revision: 29020000    Serial number: 003N5PC03SMZ 
   Coding: 0012362
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00001
   VCID: 0005B09653103E41E9-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MTS672781794

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MTS685451754

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HTS6JO2O1DKR

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HTS627S62DKJ

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels: 3C0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 3C9 953 501 CN    HW: 5K0 953 569 AS
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0140 
   Revision: FF010042    Serial number: 20140624101118
   Coding: 1992250001
Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
   VCID: 77F7DB4ACEDE79F9D8-8022

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D    HW: 3C8 959 537 D  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TK6  H07 0022
   Coding: E30000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 920 981 A    HW: 3AA 920 981 A
   Component: KOMBI         H03 0705 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 461F01
Shop #: WSC 05314 115 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04727
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 336F2F5A9A2655D924-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AS    HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: J533  Gateway H56 1653 
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 250614F2001170
   Coding: 462007
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00001
   VCID: 0103B592981A3749E6-8054

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 799 E    HW: 3AA 959 799 E
   Component:    IMMO         090 0409 
   Revision: 00090000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   VCID: 4A9152BE25AC341177-801E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 J
   Component:    ELV          029 0380
   3C0905861J     ELV          029 0380 

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels: 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 G    HW: 5N0 035 342 G
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H19 0770 
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7666435973   
   Coding: 020100
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00001
   VCID: 2B5F373A4A160D196C-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels: 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 279 S    HW: 3C8 035 279 S
   Component: RNS315-EU   H80 0500 
   Serial number: VWZAZ2P0380543
   Coding: 040700010100110000019002
Shop #: WSC 00015 115 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS 001705
ROD: EV_RNS315EUV2UDS.rod
   VCID: 3B7F077AB2769D99FC-806E

   Data medium:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866
   Component: EUR_W_V6  0062

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 701 A    HW: 3C0 959 793 C
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0534 
   Revision: 12110009    Serial number: 0008808303
   Coding: 0212F7
Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 356B114294524BE90A-8060

   Slave Driver:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3AA 959 704 A    HW: 3AA 959 794   Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  005 0503
   Serial number: 00000004061119     
   Coding: 0102D0

1 Fault Found:
133120 - Warning Light for Rear Door
          B11F7 01 [008] - Electrical Failure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 119
                    Mileage: 23694 km
                    Date: 2017.02.05
                    Time: 17:53:10


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 196    3501 
   Revision: 00H22000   
Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 39731D72704AAF89EE-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 3C0-959-799-46.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 799 E    HW: 3AA 959 799 E
   Component: 02 KESSY PQ47   090 0375 
   Revision: 00090000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
   Coding: 01900A00D2C34E7634029C3F7E005FCE105800130427BC
Shop #: WSC 05311 123 00001
   VCID: 4A9152BE25AC341177-801E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H05 1501

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  004 0611

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
   Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0611

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 3AA 962 243 D
   Component: GEB.F.Heckoef       0811

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (R184)       Labels: 5K0-035-456.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 035 466     HW: 3AA 035 466
   Component: KonzernAmp12K H03 6904 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: A1108A00001899
ASAM Dataset: EV_AudioVerst12KanalSTT1 001001
ROD: EV_AudioVerst12KanalSTT1.rod
   VCID: 6DDBF922BC82C32932-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels: 1K0-907-532.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: EZE_2         H56 1653 
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 250614F2001170
   Coding: 00000008
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00001
   VCID: 6FE7E32ABE8E313900-803A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3AA 919 204 A    HW: 3AA 919 204 A
   Component: Analoguhr  004 0004

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 959 702 A    HW: 3C0 959 792 C
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0534 
   Revision: 14110009    Serial number: 0008782149
   Coding: 0212F6
Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X.rod
   VCID: 3669164E895440F103-8062

   Slave Passenger:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3AA 959 703 A    HW: 3AA 959 795   Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  005 0503
   Serial number: 00000004054739     
   Coding: 0102D0

1 Fault Found:
67584 - Warning Light for Front Door
          B11F5 01 [008] - Electrical Failure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 119
                    Mileage: 23707 km
                    Date: 2017.02.07
                    Time: 09:34:45


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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 J    HW: 3AA 907 801 J
   Component: J540 EPB4  VW-63206 0012 
   Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000000168523
   Coding: 0022167
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00001
   VCID: 387518764B40B68111-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels: 5M0-907-357-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 F    HW: 7L6 907 357 C
Component: AFS-ECU H04 0111
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 029600000B000200
Shop #: WSC 05311 115 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt 002016
ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSPt_VW46.rod
   VCID: 37771B4A8E5EB9F918-8062

   Left Headlamp Power Output Stage:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329 B    HW: 3D0 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo links  H05 0012
   Coding: 230000

   Right Headlamp Power Output Stage:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329 B    HW: 3D0 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo rechts  H05 0012
   Coding: 230000

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels: 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: Batt.regelung H56 1653 
   Serial number: 250614F2001170
   Coding: 030F1859
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00001
   VCID: 71E3E552A8BA27C916-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 H    HW: 1K0 915 181 A
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0180
   Serial number: 41183H11301491466170

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect.        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 3AF 827 383 A    HW: 3AF 827 383 A
   Component: J605  HECKDECKEL    0860 
   Revision: 00H52001   
Shop #: WSC 05314 000 00001
   VCID: 3A71027E754CA491E7-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AF 827 384 A
   Component: J756  HECKDECKEL    0860

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 1400H52001001C0311ÿ

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:41)--------------------------
 
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Currently it is only noisey although I worry it may fail soon and as my car is due its MOT(inspection in the USA) in September if it was to fail and cause an Airbag light my car would have to be taken off the road.
How much leeway do you have on the inspection timing? Can you get it done early? In Pennsylvania if an inspection is due in September, it can be done as early as July. If I was worried about that part failing and being unavailable, I'd get the inspection done ASAP, and get the correct part on order.

That said, I've seen cars with noisy clocksprings go for years without any outright failure.

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Hi i can get it Tested 1 month early so thats next month, however vw have said the part is currently not in production I will likely have to source from abroad .
My fear is the new one has different software that causes issues ?

Thanks
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You probably can use 569T which comes in older B7's but chances are you won't find one new and there is no point in installing older used parts just because of noise.

Since you already have 569AS, which has been the go-to replacement for all those failed 569T's, then personally I wouldn't sweat it. If you really want to have a replacement handy for MOT, buy used and use it when the current one fails.
 
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Hi thank you for your reply I have also seen replacement ribbons on ebay i have considered this as a last resort , I think it is made by valeo I have seen one branded valeo with the same part no.

Thanks
 
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