2010 VW EOS No Power Steering

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I have a 2010 VW EOS (VIN: WVWBA7AH3AV018239) and the power steering has failed. Code reader says code 778 Steering Angle Sensor (G85) and code 1309 Power Steering Control Module (J500) Implausible Signal. After reading around in several forums I learned that the 2010 EOS did not have the steering angle sensor in the steering column. So I assume the steering angle sensor is internal to the steering rack. It's my understanding that the steering angle sensor that is internal to the rack can not be replaced. I found an electric power steering rack out of a 2014 Passat. The Passat steering rack part number is 561.423.051.M. I installed it, but still no power steering. I recently read Dana's thread on the location and other info regarding VW steering racks (https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/11654/). One section on the 2014 Passat steering rack says 5N1 part number steering racks with Component J500 do NOT support an internal Steering Angle Sensor. So does this mean the steering rack I have does not have an internal steering angle sensor or that the 2014 Passat does not support an internal steering angle sensor? If it does have an internal steering angle sensor, do I just need to get someone with a Vagcom to edit the settings? Thanks for any help!
 
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For help,pls post a Autoscan of this car
 
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Yes the G85 is in the steering gear.
 
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Yes the G85 is in the steering gear.
Are you sure? It depends on the type of ABS in the car. An Auto-Scan would really help here.

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It is what I gleaned from the VIN then elSa using the sales type and wiring diagram
 
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Yes the G85 is in the steering gear.
Not realy, it's only a virtual sensor in the J500 modul of the ZF Gen3 steering rack ;).
Rdw lhd Passat use the APA steering rack (5N1) w/o intern G85. Rhd and nar Passat has a gen3 steering rack.
 
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2010 VW EOS (VIN: WVWBA7AH3AV018239). Code reader says code 778 Steering Angle Sensor (G85) and code 1309 Power Steering Control Module (J500) Implausible Signal. So what I've read I need to make a setting change to enable the steering angle sensor in the steering rack. I thought I could do this with Ross-Tech VCDS. I've connected it to the car and the VCDS is connected and functional. When I try to go to 44-Steering Assist it says no response from controller module. Can't get a scan since there is no response from control module. Does anyone know what I need to do to enable the steering angle sensor in the steering rack? Thanks for any help.
 
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Friday,08,July,2022,20:52:38:13524
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 22.3.1.4 (x64)
Data version: 20220407 DS337.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWBA7AH3AV018239   License Plate:


Chassis Type: AH-VW36 (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 26 2E 42 44 46 52 56 62 63
          65 72 77

VIN: WVWBA7AH3AV018239   Mileage: 270910km-168335miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
26-Auto Roof -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
63-Entry Assist,D -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (CBF)       Labels:. 06J-907-115-CBF.clb
   Part No SW: 06J 906 021 B    HW: 06J 906 021
   Component: MED17.1             5868 
   Revision: E3H15---    Serial number:              
   Coding: 041C01081C070160
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 244DF857E7EF2BAF8B-8070
   VINID: 9E69D24474580D198004808324EAD81E01

1 Fault Found:
008801 - Boost Pressure Control Valve (N249)
               P2261 - 000 - Mechanical Malfunction - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 270907 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.11.28
                    Time: 05:26:21

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2030 /min
                    Load: 11.0 %
                    Speed: 99.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 99.0°C
                    Temperature: 35.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 930.0 mbar

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 053 A    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     511 2106 
   Revision:    51112    Serial number: 00001002240674
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 90108
   VCID: 132FAB8B32415C1762-8046

1 Fault Found:
18036 - Powertrain Data Bus
            P1628 - 000 - Missing Message from Steering Angle Sensor
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 255
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 270910 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.11.28
                    Time: 08:44:11


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AJ    HW: 1K0 907 379 AJ
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H30 0107 
   Revision: 00H30001   
   Coding: 514B600A492300028A0D06E792220041310000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 7AF1E62FF5EB8D5F81-802E

4 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 77
                    Mileage: 270589 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.11.28
                    Time: 14:02:02

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 3
                    Count: 13
                    Count: 28672
                    Count: 167
                    Count: 28928
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 510
                    Count: 0

00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 77
                    Mileage: 270589 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.11.28
                    Time: 14:02:10

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 7
                    Count: 13
                    Count: 28672
                    Count: 128
                    Count: 28416
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 510
                    Count: 0

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 16
                    Mileage: 270280 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.11.28
                    Time: 06:40:24

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 3
                    Count: 14
                    Count: 28672
                    Count: 166
                    Count: 42496
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 768
                    Count: 0

01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 16
                    Mileage: 270280 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.11.28
                    Time: 06:40:24

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 3
                    Count: 14
                    Count: 28672
                    Count: 8213
                    Count: 42496
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 768
                    Count: 0


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 CF    HW: 5K0 907 044 CF
   Component: Climatronic   H15 0709 
   Revision: 00003001   
   Coding: 0000001002
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01006
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 71E3C103A09DCE0730-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 G    HW: 5K0 937 087 G
   Component: BCM PQ35 H+   111 0128 
   Revision: BL111001   
   Coding: 6D000A1B92232A6480880085700005044101558641008D605C8020000000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 39733923B06D4647C8-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Q1 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 02031  22  0512
   Coding: 009795

4 Faults Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 77
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 5.95 V
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00532 - Supply Voltage B+
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 77
                    Mileage: 270589 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.11.28
                    Time: 00:01:04

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 Off
                    Voltage: 8.65 V
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 18
                    Reset counter: 48
                    Mileage: 270280 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.11.28
                    Time: 06:40:27

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.90 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF

01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 24
                    Reset counter: 48
                    Mileage: 270280 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.11.28
                    Time: 06:40:29

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.90 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1Q0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 655 A    HW: 1Q0 959 655 A
   Component: AQ Airbag VW8C      0180 
   Revision: 92010018    Serial number: 003B3004V1S  
   Coding: 0016721
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3A71262F756B4D5FC1-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Q0 959 339 A
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0003

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 52314        

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0001.01.000000700000000000ÿ†63

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 000000ÿ†6332SRB40AE184978ÿ†63

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 184978ÿ†6342SRB40AE10D98Bÿ†63

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 10D98Bÿ†6372URB40479BB3FLÿ†63

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 9BB3FLÿ†6382URB40479B1857ÿ

   Subsystem 8 - Serial number: 9B1857ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 F    HW: 5K0 953 569 B
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   009 0122 
   Revision: FF010035    Serial number: 20100223200852
   Coding: 088A140000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS A01002
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
   VCID: 306504076B17870F7F-8064

   Multifunction steering wheel control module:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D    HW: 3C8 959 537 D  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TK6  H06 0022
   Coding: E20000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 1Q0 920 974 N    HW: 1Q0 920 974 N
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0305 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 271F00
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
   VCID: 3F87573BA6496877F6-806A

1 Fault Found:
13638912 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 60
                    Mileage: 270910 km
                    Date: 2022.07.08
                    Time: 08:44:10


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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AD    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway   H16 0233 
   Revision:   H16       Serial number: 4520K10226053F
   Coding: ED807F27041612005000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 69D3A963404D36C778-803C

2 Faults Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 60
                    Mileage: 270910 km
                    Time Indication: 0

01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 60
                    Mileage: 270910 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 919 965 A    HW: 1Q0 919 965 A
   Component: Kompass         001 0001 
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 1350208TLCRN04
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3A71262F756B4D5FC1-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H05 0305 
   Serial number:              
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03005
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6AD1D66F8D4B3DDF71-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 26: Auto Roof        Labels: 1Q0-959-255.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 255 E    HW: 1Q0 959 255 E
   Component: Verdecksteuergeraet 0842 
   Revision: 0033100N    Serial number: 100390250    
   Coding: 0655364
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3A71262F756B4D5FC1-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 B    HW: 5N0 035 342 B
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0090 
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7667811091   
   Coding: 010000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2649E25F51D3D9BF95-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 701 H    HW: 1Q0 959 701 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2121 
   Coding: 0017591
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 39733923706D4647C8-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist
Cannot be reached

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 702 H    HW: 1Q0 959 702 H
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2121 
   Coding: 0017590
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3A71262F756B4D5FC1-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 AC    HW: 1K0 035 180 AC
   Component: Radio Prem-8  H10 0035 
   Revision: -----20S    Serial number: VWZ4Z7K1117876
   Coding: 0100040004
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 61C3B143787D7E87A0-8034

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 60
                    Mileage: 270910 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.11.28
                    Time: 08:44:11


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 811 B    HW: 1Q0 959 811 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         004 0602 
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 1012544
   VCID: 356B35135C75A2272C-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 63: Entry Assist,D        Labels: 1Q0-959-790.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 790 A    HW: 1Q0 959 790 A
   Component: J572  EASYENTRY FS  0603 
   Revision: 00H03000    Serial number: 5DS008646-01--
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 3A71262F756B4D5FC1-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-65.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 087 G    HW: 5K0 937 087 G
   Component: RDK           111 0821 
   Coding: 018705
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 39733923B06D4647C8-806C

3 Faults Found:
02904 - Hard Warning 3
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100010
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 270910 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.11.28
                    Time: 08:44:11

             Freeze Frame:
                    Text: 3362983781
                    Pressure: 0.00 bar
                    Pressure: 2.30 bar
                    Temperature: 52.4°C
                    Text: 00
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h

02214 - Tire Pressure Warning
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 270910 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.11.28
                    Time: 08:44:11

             Freeze Frame:
                    Text: 3362983781
                    Pressure: 0.00 bar
                    Pressure: 2.30 bar
                    Temperature: 52.4°C
                    Text: 00
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h

01521 - Sensor for Tire Pressure
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 270910 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.11.28
                    Time: 08:44:11


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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 812 B    HW: 1Q0 959 812 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         004 0602 
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 1012544
   VCID: 3669321F4173A93F25-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: None
   VCID: 55AB9593BC358227CC-8000

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 07:25)--------------------------
 
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Address 44: Steering Assist Cannot be reached
If it can't reach the -J500, there is no power steering and there is also no -G85 (because it's a software-modul inside).
Have you checked the wiring and plugs to the -J500 on the steering rack?
 
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Yes, I did a continuity test between the connectors (3 wires signal and 2 wire power) where it plugs onto the steering rack, up to the 3 wire connector just under the left headlight, and to the 2 power wires (one to fuse box and one to ground). All were good. I'm not sure about the 3 wire connector from there as it goes into a large bundle wiring harness from there.
 
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I figured it out. It was a power problem coming out of the fuse box under the hood. No power on the post that the power steering main power lead attaches to. Evidently, there is an 80 amp fuse under the aluminum plate. I've temporarily moved the connection to the main power lead coming in from the battery. I've got to figure out how to replace the fuse or get another fuse box. Thanks etz2k.
 
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