Measuring block 93 for TSI 1.8T??

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I've used measuring block 93 on my GTI for keeping an eye on timing chain stretch. My friend has a Jetta 1.8T has over 100k miles now and I wanted to check the stretch on his car but that block is grayed out when I hooked my VCDS cable. Is there a different way this should be done with the 1.8T?

Please advise, and thanks.

Edit: It's a 2014 Jetta/GTI both
 
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Do you have an Auto-Scan from this car? My guess is that being a 2014, it will have a UDS ECU:

UDS Vs non-UDS

To keep things super simple for this post... there are two types of control modules in our vehicles, UDS and non-UDS (legacy). UDS type modules were introduced around 2009 with some instrument clusters. As time went on, other modules went to the UDS protocol. With the 2015 Golf, all modules...
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i did use that click of following feature :) , good stuff. :thumbs:
 
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alpha3 said:
I've used measuring block 93 on my GTI for keeping an eye on timing chain stretch. My friend has a Jetta 1.8T has over 100k miles now and I wanted to check the stretch on his car but that block is grayed out when I hooked my VCDS cable. Is there a different way this should be done with the 1.8T?

Please advise, and thanks.

Edit: It's a 2014 Jetta/GTI both
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from my experience ,if it's worth anything to you ,any engine with chains ( vw , since we're on a vw forum ) should have the chain and skates changed at about 150k kms. Prevention is the mother of loss !
 
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Uwe said:
Do you have an Auto-Scan from this car? My guess is that being a 2014, it will have a UDS ECU:

UDS Vs non-UDS

To keep things super simple for this post... there are two types of control modules in our vehicles, UDS and non-UDS (legacy). UDS type modules were introduced around 2009 with some instrument clusters. As time went on, other modules went to the UDS protocol. With the 2015 Golf, all modules...
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I did an auto-scan but didn't save it since it came back no codes except for his radio which is fried, and was known about.

But THANKS Uwe, for the info on UDS ecu. Never heard of UDS - but I read that post you referenced above and indeed, I got a long ''list'' to pick from. I checked off 'timing chain' and it came back with seven or eight things which I checked off. I guess I'll just have to try and decipher what it's saying. The readout isn't as clear as what I get from the 2.0T measuring blocks in my GTI - but I'm going to try and figure it out.


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an from my experience ,if it's worth anything to you ,any engine with chains ( vw , since we're on a vw forum ) should have the chain and skates changed at about 150k kms. Prevention is the mother of loss !
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Yes, you're so right. My GTI is in a shop now getting done.
 
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VCDS saved it surreptitiously. Look in the Scans sub-folder. ;)
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I did an updated scan, but you're right, lol, it saved surreptitiously. You're wicked!

Code: 
Thursday,02,June,2022,17:56:20:62920
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 22.3.1.4 (x64)
Data version: 20220407 DS337.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: 3VWD07AJ0EM201500   License Plate:


Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 2E 44 56 75 77

VIN: 3VWD07AJ0EM201500   Mileage: 186950km-116165miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
75-Telematics -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CPKA)       Labels:. 06K-907-425-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 06K 906 070 D    HW: 06K 907 425
   Component: R4 1.8l TFS   H09 9361 
   Revision: --H09---    Serial number: 00000000000000 CVN: 4974D69E
   Coding: 001A0012242400160000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00186
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM18TFS02006K906070D 001014
   ROD: EV_ECM18TFS02006K906070D.rod
   VCID: 2B5E19C942F0F8D74A-807E
   VINID: 0E69D400745A015742001140003F0A287C

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:* 09G-927-749-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 749 A    HW: 09G 927 749 A
   Component: AISIN AG6 G3  101 2856 
   CVN: 481EBFD0
   Coding: 000348
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00079
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAQ250031 001004
   ROD: EV_TCMAQ250031_001.rod
   VCID: 377635B98EB84C373E-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL    HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152 
   Revision: 00H31001   
   Coding: A14B400C492200FB851002E492190041A71000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 7DFAE791E404A667A4-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 5C0-820-047.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 820 047 BA    HW: 5C0 820 047 BA
   Component: J301  Klimaanlage   0204 
   Revision: 2001012S    Serial number: 00000001631602
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 60C4BEE5B3B66B8FAF-8034

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 937 087 J    HW: 5C0 937 087 A
   Component: BCM25 JLB H3  H34 0411 
   Revision: B2034001    Serial number: 08013175132376
   Coding: 7B994BB808230F0000382000240884C500C2502E60000000300050002000
   Shop #: WSC 07807 444 183825
   VCID: 346C02B597CEA72F1B-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AF    HW: 6R0 959 801 AF  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
   Component: J386__TSG_FT  004 3465
   Serial number: 14102443130603214458
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AF    HW: 6R0 959 802 AF  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
   Component: J387__TSG_BT  004 3465
   Serial number: 14102444130606174909
   Coding: 820000

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0037
   Serial number: 0255947 FLE 20130509
   Coding: 020000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 H    HW: 6R0 959 811 H
   Component: J388__TSG_HL  004 3464
   Serial number: 14102445130610213101
   Coding: 800000

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 H    HW: 6R0 959 812 H
   Component: J389__TSG_HR  004 3464
   Serial number: 14202446130607093646
   Coding: 800000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 AD    HW: 5C0 959 655 AD
   Component: AirbagVW10    102 0912 
   Serial number: 003MVD000D95 
   Coding: 00004138
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 001026
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 74ECC2B5DF4EE72FDB-8020

   Seat occupied recognition:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B    HW: 5C6 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H10 0046
   Serial number: 6940000Y130000V5LR0C
   Coding: 303036

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H02 ----
   Serial number: 3572MSME4B2D3278ZZZ0

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H02 ----
   Serial number: 3582MSME11233278ZZZL

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  H02 ----
   Serial number: 3516KSME27491F25ZZZY

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A    HW: 5K0 959 351 A
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  H02 ----
   Serial number: 3526KSME49731F25ZZZ-

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Fahr  H02 ----
   Serial number: 3556LSME7C0A6A23ZZZ1

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A    HW: 5K0 959 659 A
   Component: F.Sens.Beif  H02 ----
   Serial number: 3566LSME3C206A23ZZZX

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5C6 920 953 B    HW: 5C6 920 953 B
   Component: KOMBI         H04 0809 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 270A01
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00186
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04723
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
   VCID: 2C5C1AD547FEFFEF43-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 5C0 937 087 A
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H34 0411 
   Revision: B2034001   
   Coding: 102200
   Shop #: WSC 07807 444 183825
   VCID: 70E4CEA5A356DB0F3F-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H04 0809 
   Serial number:              
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6AD0DCCD8D8A21DF71-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3
Cannot be reached

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 69     3501 
   Revision: 00H22000   
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 3972338170AC5A47C8-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 164 F    HW: 1K0 035 164 F
   Component: LOW NAR SDARS H03 0005 
   Revision: -----07S    Serial number: VWZ4Z6N3589564
   Coding: 01000400020006
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 254AEFF12C14CEA79C-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 75: Telematics (J949)       Labels:| 12E-035-284.clb
   Part No SW: 561 035 285     HW: 561 035 285
   Component: OCULowUSA     014 0086 
   Serial number: 000003554140501
   Coding: 02630102C2161A107F1606000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_OCULow 001010
   ROD: EV_OCULow_001_VW32.rod
   VCID: 53AE61293A00801722-8006

2 Faults Found:
0035 - Databus
          U1121 00 [008] - Missing Message
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 13
                    Mileage: 186318 km
                    Date: 2022.05.28
                    Time: 00:01:32

2103041 - Control Module
          B1788 F0 [009] - Start Prohibition Deactivated
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 8
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 229
                    Mileage: 186954 km
                    Date: 2022.06.02
                    Time: 05:56:10


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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 5N0-035-729.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 729 A    HW: 5N0 035 729 A
   Component: TELEFON       H05 0315 
   Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007664792175
   Coding: 0A10030080010110
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVUMI 001007
   ROD: EV_UHVUMI.rod
   VCID: 2E5810DD71E28DFF6D-807A

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:58)--------------------------
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CPKA) Labels:. 06K-907-425-V2.clb
Part No SW: 06K 906 070 D HW: 06K 907 425
Component: R4 1.8l TFS H09 9361
Revision: --H09--- Serial number: 00000000000000 CVN: 4974D69E
Coding: 001A0012242400160000
Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00186
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM18TFS02006K906070D 001014
ROD: EV_ECM18TFS02006K906070D.rod
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Definitely UDS. :)

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