Seat Mii wont start after basic setting of asg gearbox

TheDane · Friday at 9:59 AM

Hello everyone. I have a question regarding one of my customers cars. The car came in this morning, drove well and all but the customer complained about the clutch slipping in some of the gears so i tried and adapt the clutch and tried to do a basic setting of the gears but after that it wouldnt start. Red gear icon is on the speedometer and N i flashing. Any ideas ?
Seat Mii
2012
Without start/stop

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adresse 02: Automatik Forklaringsfil: NEZ\0CT-927-750.clb
Styreenhed reservedelsnr. : 0CT 927 750 A HW: 0CT 927 750 A
Komponent og/eller version : SQ100 H10 0013
Software kodning : 000120
Forhandlernummer : WSC 12345 824 23456
ASAM datasæt : EV_TCMSQ101011 004010 (VW12)
ROD: EV_TCMSQ101011_004.rod
VCID: 46D557E7D824F57BB51-8012
1 fejl fundet:

19931 - Gearkassesystem
P175F 00 [167] - Grundindstilling ikke gennemført
Fejllampe aktiveret - Ikke bekræftet - Testet siden sletning af hukommelse
Fryserammedata:
Fejl status : 00000001
Fejlprioritet: 2
Fejlhyppighed: 1
Kørestrækning: 206504 km
Dato: 2108.14.01
Tid: 00:30:35

Motoromdrejningstal: 0.00 /min
Gearkasseindgangsomdrejningstal: 0 /min
Gearkasseudgangsomdrejningstal: 0 /min
Motordrejningsmoment: 0 Nm
Gearolietemperatur: 22 °C
Speederstilling: 0.0 %
Koblingsstatus: 2
Nulstillingstæller for EOBD: 1
Indstilling-Tekst tabel: Køretilstand: INGEN SYSTEMFRIGIVELSE
Gearkassestatus-CLEARANCE PHASE: Ikke aktiv
Gearkassestatus-DISENGAGE PHASE: Ikke aktiv
Gearkassestatus-i indgreb: Ikke aktiv
Gearkassestatus-ENGAGING PHASE: Ikke aktiv
Gearkassestatus-Generel fejl: Ikke aktiv
Gearkassestatus-Initialisation of gearbox mode is active: Ikke aktiv
Gearkassestatus-MAIN SYNCHRONIZE PHASE: Ikke aktiv
Gearkassestatus-MECANICAL BLOCKER: Ikke aktiv
Gearkassestatus-SKIFT IKKE MANAGER AFBRUDT: Ikke aktiv
Gearkassestatus-PRE SYNCHRONIZE PHASE: Ikke aktiv
Gearkassestatus-PRELOAD PHASE: Ikke aktiv
Gearkassestatus-PREPARING PHASE: Ikke aktiv
Gearkassestatus-PUSHOUT PHASE: Ikke aktiv
Gearkassestatus-REBOUND PHASE: Ikke aktiv
Gearkassestatus-REQUEST DOUBLE CLUTCHING: Ikke aktiv
Gearkassestatus-SELECT PHASE: Ikke aktiv
Gearkassestatus-Skiftning aktiv: Ikke aktiv
Gearkassestatus-SYNCHRONIZE READY: Ikke aktiv

Uwe · Friday at 11:00 AM

Hi,

Please post a complete Auto-Scan made with the English version of VCDS. You can download it from this page and it will happily coexist on your computer with the Danish translation you are currently using.

-Uwe-

TheDane · Friday at 11:38 AM

Hi Uwe, im not at the shop anymore so i only got that one scan and this other i will post in this thread. I will do the english version on monday.

Fredag,13,Maj,2022,15:52:35:12676
VCDS -- Windows baseret VAG/VAS emulator - Kører på Windows 10 x64
VCDS version: NEZ 22.3.1.6 HEX-V2 CB: 0.4615.4
Dataversion: 20220501 DS338.0
www.vcds.dk

Firma: hey
Forhandlernr.: 824 12345 023456

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Gateway monteringsliste: 6N0 909 901

01-Motor -- Status: Ok 0000
02-Automatik -- Status: Fejlfunktion 0010
03-ABS bremser -- Status: Fejlfunktion 0010
04-Styrevinkel -- Status: Ok 0000
09-Centralelektr. BCM1 -- Status: Ok 0000
10-Park.assist. -- Status: Ok 0000
13-Afstandsreg. 1 -- Status: Ok 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Ok 0000
17-Instrument -- Status: Ok 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Ok 0000
25-Startspærre -- Status: Ok 0000
44-Servostyring -- Status: Ok 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Ok 0000
AD-Bremsesensor -- Status: Ok 0000

PetrolDave · Saturday at 4:10 AM

When you do post the Auto-Scan made with the English version please post the complete unedited Auto-Scan - what you have posted above is just the installation list - which tells nothing about the actual modules installed in your Mii.

TheDane · Saturday at 5:27 AM

PetrolDave said:
When you do post the Auto-Scan made with the English version please post the complete unedited Auto-Scan - what you have posted above is just the installation list - which tells nothing about the actual modules installed in your Mii.

Will do, i was in a hurry yesterday so that was what i got before i left the shop.

TheDane · Monday at 9:09 AM

Code:

Monday,16,May,2022,15:03:48:12676
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 22.3.1.4 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4615.4
Data version: 20220407 DS337.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: VSSZZZAAZDD310869   License Plate: AE15539
Mileage: 206500km-128313mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: AA-VW12 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 09 10 13 15 17 19 25 44 56 AD

VIN: VSSZZZAAZDD310869   Mileage: 206500km-128313miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
AD-Brake Sensors -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CHYB)       Labels:. 04C-906-020-CHY.clb
   Part No SW: 04C 906 020 AA    HW: 04C 907 309 B
   Component: 1.0l R3 MPI   H01 6477 
   Revision: U7H01---    Serial number:                CVN: 1F8272A5
   Coding: 00140012022400000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 824 23456
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906020AA 001009
   ROD: EV_ECM10MPI01104C906020AA_VW12.rod
   VCID: 5AED93977C9C619BE1B-800E
   VINID: 9A38EAAAA451A9450304020624D267A206

No fault code found.
Readiness: 1110 0101

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J514)       Labels:* Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 0CT 927 750 A    HW: 0CT 927 750 A
   Component: SQ100         H10 0013 
   CVN: 8533428D
   Coding: 000120
   Shop #: WSC 12345 824 23456
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMSQ101011 004010
   ROD: EV_TCMSQ101011_004.rod
   VCID: 46D557E7D824F57BB53-8012

1 Fault Found:
19931 - Transmission
          P175F 00 [175] - Basic Settings Not Performed
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 206504 km
                    Date: 2022.05.16
                    Time: 01:27:37

                    Engine RPM: 0.00 /min
                    Transmission input speed: 0 /min
                    Transmission output speed: 0 /min
                    Engine torque: 0 Nm
                    ATF temperature: 81 °C
                    Accelerator pedal position: 0.0 %
                    Clutch status: 1
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 1
                    Driving mode-Text Tabel: Drivng Situation: KEINE_SYSTEMFREIGABE
                    Transmission status-CLEARANCE PHASE: not active
                    Transmission status-DISENGAGE PHASE: not active
                    Transmission status-engaged: not active
                    Transmission status-ENGAGING PHASE: not active
                    Transmission status-General Error: not active
                    Transmission status-Initialisation of gearbox mode is active: not active
                    Transmission status-MAIN SYNCHRONIZE PHASE: not active
                    Transmission status-MECANICAL BLOCKER: not active
                    Transmission status-NO SHIFT MANAGER DISABLED: not active
                    Transmission status-PRE SYNCHRONIZE PHASE: not active
                    Transmission status-PRELOAD PHASE: not active
                    Transmission status-PREPARING PHASE: not active
                    Transmission status-PUSHOUT PHASE: not active
                    Transmission status-REBOUND PHASE: not active
                    Transmission status-REQUEST DOUBLE CLUTCHING: not active
                    Transmission status-SELECT PHASE: not active
                    Transmission status-Shifting acitve: not active
                    Transmission status-SYNCHRONIZE READY: not active


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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 1S0-614-517.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 614 517 D    HW: 1S0 614 517 D
   Component: EBC 460 ESP   H08 0011 
   Serial number: A001X3N
   Coding: 22BF247189AE02F1440224FB91B2404059B200
   Shop #: WSC 12345 824 23456
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESPMP1TRWVW120 016035
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESPMP1TRWVW120_VW12.rod
   VCID: 3039113F4AA04BCB7FF-8064

1 Fault Found:
0342 - Please Check Fault Codes in Transmission Control Module
          U1026 00 [009] - -
          [MSG_GE1_ZIELGANG_FAULT]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 8
                    Mileage: 206504 km
                    Date: 2022.05.16
                    Time: 01:36:32

                    DTC: 00 01 56


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1S0-937-09x-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 937 087 B    HW: 1S0 937 087 B
   Component: PQ25 BCM      H28 0555 
   Revision: -9------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 64B82B0000010000000008002C28ACD000C0400C60020000200000000100
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 3829291FA250938B37F-806C

1 Fault Found:
01117 - Generator Terminal DF Load Signal
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00111000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 8
                    Mileage: 206504 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2016.10.06
                    Time: 01:33:23


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 1Sx-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 1SL 919 475     HW: 1Q0 919 475
   Component: PARKHILFE 3K  H03 0005 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 32961222302448
   Coding: 100101
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA14SE1200000 001001
   ROD: EV_EPHVA14SE1200000.rod
   VCID: 1373BEB3DBF690D362D-8046

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 959 655     HW: 1S0 959 655
   Component: VW10Airbag00D H03 0005 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003G3004MA9O
   Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003044
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750.rod
   VCID: 7BA3F613D36678939AD-802E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 3495RRB40651D2ASG087

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Serial number: 3505RRB40551D2ASJ935

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 3555NRB405N1HA3OB0QV

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 1Sx-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 1SL 920 860 C    HW: 1SL 920 860 C
   Component: KOMBI         H21 0105 
   Revision: X0021005    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 114A00
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10 A04712
   ROD: EV_KombiUDSMM9RM10_A04_VW12.rod
   VCID: 4CC165CFC6480F2B637-8018

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 1S0 937 087 B
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H28 0555 
   Revision: -9------   
   Coding: 021200
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 70B9D13F8AA00BCB3FF-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:. 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 1SL 920 860 C
   Component: IMMO          H21 0105 
   Revision: X0021005    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10 A01702
   ROD: EV_ImmoUDSMM9RM10_VW12.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC357ACFCF11B71B-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 1Sx-909-144-44.clb
   Part No SW: 1S1 909 144 G    HW: 1S1 909 144 G
   Component: EPS_ECU       H30 1503 
   Coding: 0001000101000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSK 009004
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSK_009.rod
   VCID: 372B2A23AFCE9CF33E5-8062

1 Fault Found:
0067 - Terminal 30
          U140A 00 [008] - Open Circuit
          [Failure monitoring terminal 31]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 47

                    Voltage terminal 15: 11.974 V
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.566 V
                    Engine RPM: 0.00 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 50 km/h
                    Status: Initialization


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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1SL 035 156     HW: 1SL 035 156
   Component: Radio         H35 0050 
   Revision: R0000000    Serial number: SEZAZ1M3126438
   Coding: 0000040802
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
   VCID: 04518DEFAE18076BEB7-8050

No fault code found.

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Address AD: Brake Sensors (J939)       Labels: 1S0-907-201.clb
   Part No SW: 1S0 907 201     HW: 1S0 907 201
   Component: CV-SENSOR     H06 0450 
   ASAM Dataset: EV_CVSen 001001
   ROD: EV_CVSen_VW12.rod
   VCID: 678BBA63BFEECC736E5-8032

No fault code found.

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Crasher · Monday at 11:17 AM

That looks like the gear actuator unit has failed, common issue, part number 0CT 311 097 E. Often just replacing the shifter unit is not successful as the selector fork unit 0CF 311 490 A is worn.

TheDane · Monday at 12:00 PM

Is it possible that if the clutch is worn that it cant figure out to do basic setting on the gearbox actuator because it cant depress the clutch fully?

Crasher · Tuesday at 5:10 AM

If the ECU cannot determine if it is in neural, it won't allow the starter to operate.

TheDane · Tuesday at 5:12 AM

Agreed. I got it started and got it up to temperature as required on Vcds basic setting, and it starts the process but later on it stops and then says(stopped because of error) so im thinking that the clutch must be than worn so the actuator cant depress it fully so the gearactuator can adjust the gears and then stops.

Crasher · Tuesday at 6:23 AM

My MOT test centre (our Periodic Inspection) did a clutch on their courtesy car Citigo, then the Mechatronic failed and he threw it at me to do as he didn't fancy the job; it is a very tight area to work in, a real knuckle buster.

Seat Mii wont start after basic setting of asg gearbox

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