alternative DSG fluids

[mikeme]

fella on another site had his 2010 TDI with the DSG serviced.

they did not put the proper VW specified fluid in the transmission, but used synthetic DEXRON VI and an additive.

Link to the Additive
http://www.lubegard.com/~/C-113/LUBEGARD Platinum Universal ATF Protectant

Link to the Manual
http://www.lubegard.com/pdfs/2010_LUBEGARD_CC_FINAL.pdf

what do you think?

 

[DrPeter]

Hello,

what do you think?

I would stick to the OEM fluid, it is more expensive than other alternatives, but it is less than a transmission or mechatronics.

1L = G 052182A2
or
20L = G 052182A6

- Also if the vehicle is still under warranty, a transmission claim could be denied if other fluid is used, just a thought ...

Hope this helps,

drpeter

 

[Uwe]

Wait... DEXRON VI is an ATF, while G52 is more of a traditional (manual transmission-type) gear oil, no?

If that's correct, I think that's nuts.

-Uwe-

 

[mikeme]

Agree with both responses.

but, given the deed is done, what would you recommend?

seems like the only way to get all the fluid out is to drop the DSG and take it apart.

 

[Jack@European_Parts]

alternative DSG fluids



fella on another site had his 2010 TDI with the DSG serviced.

they did not put the proper VW specified fluid in the transmission, but used synthetic DEXRON VI and an additive.

Link to the Additive
http://www.lubegard.com/~/C-113/LUBEGARD Platinum Universal ATF Protectant

Link to the Manual
http://www.lubegard.com/pdfs/2010_LUBEGARD_CC_FINAL.pdf

what do you think?

Agree with both responses.

but, given the deed is done, what would you recommend?

seems like the only way to get all the fluid out is to drop the DSG and take it apart.

I have a tremendous amount of contempt for gimmick services.

I would make the shop assume the liability for the trans.
I would request they install a new transmission with documentation from the OEM, or come to a corrective action.

If they didn't ............I would immediately contact the manufacturer of the snake oil, and I would contact the DMV to file a complaint looking to seek an adjudicated decision.

Clearly a difference between experiments and general repair/maintenance.

A shop doing what is specified as a professional selling a service, has the onus to know, and adhere to the repair manual, or industry standards in accordance with EPA, DOT, or DMV regulations.

When mistakes are made, .........people should own them or contact there insurance carrier for their bo bo...

Useless thread............There you got my response.

 

[mikeme]

anyone know what you have to do to get all the fluid out of a DSG?

 

[Jack@European_Parts]

anyone know what you have to do to get all the fluid out of a DSG?

Oh.....sure no problem.

Procedures for evacuating fluid or disassembling the DSG can be found in the repair manual for power transmission 02E

Auto-scan for car related specific attributes such as trans code?

Hypothetically if I cared.

I'd probably make something up to connect to the cooler ports.
I would feed fresh fluid in and evacuate from the other side, after I dumped and refilled the sump + changed the filter.........watching a clear tube to see the consistency changes.

 

[Jetta 97]

anyone know what you have to do to get all the fluid out of a DSG?

Just get it hot and drain it , remove filter and put new fluid and filter, Buy it form Dealer, there is no much saving buying OEM fluid and filter ( about $25-$30) , drive car 10000 miles then chnage again and you should be good.
On this transmission it will drain 95% of the fluid out when you drain form drain plug.

 

[mikeme]

I read in a service manual that the 02E DSG had a two liter difference between dry fill and refill.

are you saying this is incorrect?

 

[Jetta 97]

I would not agree with that.

 

[mikeme]

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.php?p=4884734&postcount=21

another observation on DSG fluid capacity

Quote:

Dry fill is 7.2 liters, service fill is 5.2 liters (source: Alldata).

Also, I've let the 02E drain OVERNIGHT with no filter, and no fill tube funnel, and when I went to open up the front cover for an M-unit replacement, a significant amount more fluid comes out. And even more comes out when you pull the M-unit loose. Easy to see why, as the M-unit sits in a cavity in front of the case that hangs down lower than the gearcase portion where the drain is.


There is also more inside the clutch housing (again, I've done a few of those, too). There is no way it could drain out into the transmission case to wear the drain is, even if it sits.

So I would say Alldata's figure, which is taken from VAG's own published information (which I have at home) is pretty accurate.