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I would expect Prigozhin and Utkin to have some sort of insurance policy, a video, hoard of documents, etc... to be released on death.
 

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Yeap yeap..sort of insurance ?
 

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There's a theory that he's still alive. 2 of his other jets flew the same route, and there's a chance the one that was shot down was a decoy. Apparently only 8 of the 10 bodies on board have been recovered.
 
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It is like a replay of Hitler in the 30's.
 
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Being from eastern europe I would not believe a single word Russia has to say. It's been proven from years ago that the Russia always plays games and win's stupid prizes. From the early to late 80's when I grew up a kid I learned at a very early age that if you needed to bribe a russian soldier all you needed was a bottle of vodka. This was the way my father would always get the watches he had bought in Bulgaria and hid them under the seat where I and my brother sat in our little fiat 126p across the border into Poland that he would then sell and make some money, as Poland during those days was under the Iron curtain very little if anything from the west came into Poland. If the russians at the border found out that you were smuggling something in you were lucky if you weren't beaten or shot and they would confiscate the goods often for themselves. If anything russian garbage was mostly sold in our country for that period of time and let me tell you it was truly garbage, from russian tv's exploding and burning houses down to their horrible chocolate that tasted like cardboard. However People were resilient and found ways to make life better for themselves without the need of russian garbage roaming the streets. Most of the russians were there to find any excuse to kill, beat, falsely arrest anyone and everyone that didn't fall in line.

I have also heard from my great grand parents when I was a kid that during the second world war when the nazi's came in and the russian's that as ruthless both sides were there was a significant difference in discipline of those two forces. The nazi's were all about business and the war sure they knock on the door ,make you give them a place to stay for the night or a week they would drink your water and eat your food but at the end of the day that was it, the russians on the other hand were like a after party that should never have been continued, they would barge in shoot your dog or kill your husband, or rape the women, eat the food drink all the alcohol, steal anything that wasn't bolted down and when leaving you were lucky to be alive and that they didn't burn your house down. Now having said that I'm not saying what the nazi's did was right by any means or that things like that didn't happen on the nazi side im sure they did but in no way shape or form in comparison on the scale as it did on the russian side.

That being said things like that happen in every war. The same is happening in the Ukraine war right now. But going back to Prigozhin, and russia having verified via dna that he's dead I don't believe it. Everyone know once your in Putin's cross hairs that's it there is no forgiveness, no pardon, no going back, best bet is to fake your own death and go into hiding. I highly doubt Prigozhin was that foolish. Just like the Russians verified Hitler was dead at the end of the second world war would be just as accurate as them verifying Prigozhin is dead now, probably the opposite is true. This is just my opinion. I'm on no ones side even though I have heard first hand accounts of family members growing up what they went through and how things were.


Ukraine is corrupt as fuck no doubt about it but the American media won't tell you that. You wanna know why so much money has gone to Ukraine? Because majority of it has been paid in bribes to the munitions suppliers/back channels where they need to go in Ukraine, everyone needs their hands greased.
 
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You're only a Russian soldier if the only way you can aim & shoot straight is when you're practically falling over drunk. :D
Also facts, but thats just bullshit none of them every shoot straight even when not hammered.
 

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Pffft..2 + years now...countless billions wasted...still no victory in sight. Someone is making money for sure :cool:.
 

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Rheinmetal share price has gone from 83 Euros to over 500 Euros since 2022. I should have bought some :)
 
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Rheinmetal share price has gone from 83 Euros to over 500 Euros since 2022. I should have bought some :)
You could ve and you should ve..but you had no faith in Putin. I wonder if this isn t just a gentleman s hand shake and both sides are making money :) . Would not surprise me . They been talking a lot about seizing russian money..but so far ..nada
 

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And all the time young lives are being wrecked on both sides.

That's the real tragedy here. I firmly believe we have no business getting involved, but at the same time, Ukraine shouldn't have to roll-over and surrender to an aggressive, dictatorial enemy when Ukraine (theoretically...?) did nothing to prompt such an invasion.

It's complicated and messy, and innocent people on both sides are losing their lives over it every day.
 

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when Ukraine (theoretically...?) did nothing to prompt such an invasion.
"theoretically" means according to western corporate media?

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"theoretically" means according to western corporate media?

-Uwe-

"Theoretically" means I'm not personally aware of anything Ukraine did that would warrant such an overwhelming response from Russia. I am not calling anyone innocent, but a full-scale invasion is a rather drastic response to just about anything.
 
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