Unable to read block 115 (1999 Audi A4 1.8T)

[BlueB5]

Hi,

I'm using VCDS for the first time so I'm a total newbie at this.
To start off with, this is my Auto-Scan:

VCDS-Lite
Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
Version: Release 1.2
www.Ross-Tech.com
Workshop Code: 000 00000
Self-Diagnosis Log
Monday, 31 January 2022, 18:55:15:53867
VIN Number: License Plate:
Mileage: Repair Order:
Chassis Type: 8D - Audi A4 B5
Scan: 01,02,03,08,15,16,17,25,35,37,45,55,56,57,67,75,76,77
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

Address 01: Engine Labels: None
Controller: 8D0 907 557 P
Component: 1.8L R4/5VT MOTR HS D02
Coding: 06201
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 3D0D689C2469
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0100
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8E0-614-111-ABS.LBL
Controller: 8E0 614 111 A
Component: ABS/EDS 5.3 QUATTRO D10
Coding: 0273004284
Shop #: BB 24334
VCID: 1C4B85189FB3
No fault code found.
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8D0-820-043-1D.LBL
Controller: 8D0 820 043 N
Component: A4 KLIMAAUTOMAT D54
Coding: 00140
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 2B2956C4CA1D
No fault code found. 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8D0-959-655-AI8.LBL
Controller: 8D0 959 655 K
Component: Airbag Front+Seite 0002
Coding: 00104
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 3E0F6F90296F
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8D0-919-xxx-17.LBL
Controller: 8D0 919 911
Component: B5-KOMBIINSTR. VDO D15
Coding: 03242
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: EAA713C08567
No fault code found. 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

Address 35: Centr. Locks Labels: 8D0-862-257.LBL
Controller: 8L0 862 257 N
Component: CV-Pump D11
Coding: 16140
Shop #: WSC 06325
VCID: 40F31168539B
9 Faults Found:
01367 - Central Locking Pump Run Time Exceeded (Likely Leak)
35-00 - -
01371 - Alarm triggered by Door Contact Switch; Driver's Side
35-00 - -
01374 - Alarm triggered by Terminal 15
35-00 - -
01370 - Alarm triggered by Interior Monitoring
35-00 - -
01368 - Alarm triggered by Luggage Compartment Switch
35-00 - -
01362 - Close Switch for Tailgate/Trunk (F124)
29-00 - Short to Ground
00991 - Interior Lights
28-00 - Short to Plus
00955 - Key 1
09-00 - Adaptation Limit Surpassed
00956 - Key 2
09-00 - Adaptation Limit Surpassed
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

Address 45: Inter. Monitor Labels: 4B0-951-173.LBL
Controller: 4B0 951 173
Component: Innenraumueberw. D03
Coding: 00101
Shop #: WSC 08316
VCID: E0B371E8735B
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 8D0-035-1xx-56.LBL
Controller: 8N0 035 186 A
Component: Radio D03
Coding: 00113
Shop #: WSC 06335
VCID: 2E2F5FD0F90F
No fault code found.
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I'm trying to read meas. block 115 to compare specified boost pressure vs actual. However, 115 shows up as N/A for me:

It says "Label File: None". Is this a concern?

I tried going through the label files and I believe VCDS should be using 058-907-55x-AEBN.LBL for my car. Is this right?
If it is, block 114-4 doesnt show me "Wastegate Valve,Duty Cycle" either.

What am I missing here and need to do differently?

 

[Uwe]

This is an older 1.8T with the older Motronic ECU -- I think it's M 3.8. Unlike the ME 7 ECUs used in MY 2000 and newer, this ECU doesn't have those groups.

IIRC, the your engine management system doesn't have boost (actually manifold) pressure sensor.

-Uwe-

 

[Uwe]

t says "Label File: None". Is this a concern?

Hmm.. I'm puzzled why that it. It should pick up 058-907-55x-AEBN.LBL for your engine. Check whether that file, and 8D-01.LBL is present in your Labels sub-folder.

-Uwe-

 

[BlueB5]

This is an older 1.8T with the older Motronic ECU -- I think it's M 3.8. Unlike the ME 7 ECUs used in MY 2000 and newer, this ECU doesn't have those groups.

IIRC, the your engine management system doesn't have boost (actually manifold) pressure sensor.

-Uwe-

Thanks Uwe!
The previous owner chipped the car for different boost pressures so it seems like the ECU can control the boost? Can we just not read it via VCDS?
The chips look like this:

Hmm.. I'm puzzled why that it. It should pick up 058-907-55x-AEBN.LBL for your engine. Check whether that file, and 8D-01.LBL is present in your Labels sub-folder.

-Uwe-

Can confirm that I have both of those files in the /Labels directory.

 

[Uwe]

seems like the ECU can control the boost

It can. But IIRC, it deduces how much boost it's actually making based on mass-airflow, throttle opening, RPM and so on.

What's in this ECU right now, stock chip or some "tuned" thing?

-Uwe-

 

[BlueB5]

It can. But IIRC, it deduces how much boost it's actually making based on mass-airflow, throttle opening, RPM and so on.

What's in this ECU right now, stock chip or some "tuned" thing?

-Uwe-

Aah I see.

Its got a tuned 1.3 bar chip in it which equates to 18 psi. However its only making 10psi according to the boost gage that one of the previous owners has had installed which he claims did show him around 18 psi some years back.
I was hoping to see the commanded boost and actual boost numbers before I start hunting for boost leaks but that may be not be possible.

I did clean the MAF sensor, thorttle body and put in a new O2 sensor so all of that should be good. Maybe I should try to do the throttle body adaptation, although its a cable throttle so not sure if it will do anything.

 

[Uwe]

Maybe I should try to do the throttle body adaptation, although its a cable throttle so not sure if it will do anything.

Might help with idle issues, but you don't seem to have any complaints with that.

-Uwe-

 

[BlueB5]

Might help with idle issues, but you don't seem to have any complaints with that.

-Uwe-

It moves around a bit but its not a big issue...

Any ideas as to why VCDS is not reading in the label file?

 

[Uwe]

Any ideas as to why VCDS is not reading in the label file?

No.

You can try renaming the file 058-907-55x-AEBN.LBL to 8D0-907-557-P.LBL, but....

I suspect that's going on here is that Wetterauer based their chip on a Eurpopean file, and back in the 1996-1999 period, those had fewer MVBs.

See for example 058-907-55x-AEB1.lbl and 058-907-55x-AEB2.lbl -- those correspond to the software in the Euro ECUs, while 058-907-55x-AEBN is the NAR market one.

FWIW, these are all just plain text and you can open any of them with Notepad.

-Uwe-

 

[BlueB5]

No.

You can try renaming the file 058-907-55x-AEBN.LBL to 8D0-907-557-P.LBL, but....

I suspect that's going on here is that Wetterauer based their chip on a Eurpopean file, and back in the 1996-1999 period, those had fewer MVBs.

See for example 058-907-55x-AEB1.lbl and 058-907-55x-AEB2.lbl -- those correspond to the software in the Euro ECUs, while 058-907-55x-AEBN is the NAR market one.

FWIW, these are all just plain text and you can open any of them with Notepad.

-Uwe-

Makes sense. I'll try renaming the file and also check what the EU label files have in em. Maybe one of them match up to my chip.

Thanks a lot for all the help!