Audi A8 4E 00778 - Steering Angle Sensor - Defective

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Lovely... the morning of the annual inspection I start the car to find these ABS faults. Had to cancel the inspection as any warning lights is a failure. I quick scan show these:-

Code:
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4E0-910-517.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 517 A    HW: 4E0 614 517 A
   Component: ESP 5.7 allrad  H29 0420 
   Coding: 0008597
   Shop #: WSC 02313 000 00000
   VCID: 2149FC83F8DBE6816E-8074

3 Faults Found:
02083 - Message for Delay Request
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            014 - Defective
01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30
            000 - -

I guess I need a replacement steering angle sensor.

A full unedited scan (ignore the MMI errors as I have the optical loop unplugged and the ACC errors).

Code:
Thursday,06,January,2022,10:58:38:04620
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
VCDS Version: 21.9.0.2 (x64)
Data version: 20210903 DS330.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ4E04N008970   License Plate:
Mileage: 154210km-95821mi   Repair Order: a



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Chassis Type: 4E (4E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 0F 13 15 16 17 19 1E 25 34 36 37 38
          42 46 47 4F 52 53 55 56 57 61 62 72 76

VIN: WAUZZZ4E04N008970   Mileage: 154210km-95821miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: Malfunction 0010
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
38-Roof Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
57-TV Tuner -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: User\4E0-910-560-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 560 H    HW: 4E0 907 560
   Component: 3.7L V8/5V      G   0020 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUX3Z0C8121858
   Coding: 0011773
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 2643EF9F91F501B91B-8072
   VINID: 9D196AAAA115004780008247005A7D9D10

2 Faults Found:
17981 - Left Engine Mount Solenoid Valve (N144)
            P1573 - 004 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
17983 - Right Engine Mount Solenoid Valve (N145)
            P1575 - 001 - Short to Plus
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09E-927-156.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 156 D    HW: 09E 927 156 A
   Component: AG6 09E 3,7L5V RdW  0070 
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:        0019919
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 2345F68BE2C7F4917C-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4E0-910-517.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 517 A    HW: 4E0 614 517 A
   Component: ESP 5.7 allrad  H29 0420 
   Coding: 0008597
   Shop #: WSC 02313 000 00000
   VCID: 2149FC83F8DBE6816E-8074

3 Faults Found:
02083 - Message for Delay Request
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            014 - Defective
01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30
            000 - -

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: User\4E0-910-131.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 131     HW: 4E0 909 131
   Component:     FBS AUDID3  H03 0120 
   Revision: 01203603    Serial number: AUX3Z0C8121858
   Coding: 0264192
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 58BF9167EB01674959-800C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: ELV                 XXXX

No fault code found.

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C    HW: 4E0 959 760
   Component: Sitzmemory BFS H06  0060 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
   Coding: 4063328
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 2345F68BE2C7F4917C-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 07: Control Head
Cannot be reached

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: User\4E0-910-043.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 043     HW: 4E0 820 043 A
   Component: KLIMAAUTOMAT    015 0240 
   Revision: 00000018    Serial number: 00000000023996
   Coding: 1069057
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 5ABB8B6F950D75596F-800E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: User\4E0-910-279.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 279 E    HW: 4E0 907 279 E
   Component: ILM Fahrer      H11 0100 
   Coding: 0110001
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 2A5B1BAF85ED25D93F-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E2 910 113 B
   Component: Wischer WWS D3  H50 0420 
   Coding: 00000042
   Shop #: WSC 02311 

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg        Labels: User\4E0-910-561.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 561 C    HW: 4E0 907 561 C
   Component: ABSTANDSREGELUNG    0010 
   Coding: 0021158
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 224BF38FFDDDFD9977-8076

3 Faults Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11111101
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 239
                    Mileage: 153612 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2003.10.08
                    Time: 00:00:00

             Freeze Frame:
                    Temperature: 13.0°C
                    Voltage: 11.65 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000

01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
            013 - Check DTC Memory - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11111101
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 14
                    Reset counter: 239
                    Mileage: 153600 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.07.13
                    Time: 17:24:00

             Freeze Frame:
                    Temperature: 7.0°C
                    Voltage: 11.65 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000

00466 - Control Module for Steering Column Electronics (J527)
            008 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11111000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 14
                    Reset counter: 239
                    Mileage: 153600 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.07.13
                    Time: 17:24:00

             Freeze Frame:
                    Temperature: 7.0°C
                    Voltage: 11.65 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4E0-910-655-84.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 655     HW: 4E0 959 655
   Component: Airbag 8.4E+    H09 0940 
   Coding: 0431707
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 63C5B68BA247B4913C-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4E0-910-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 549     HW: 4E0 953 549
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul H09 0030 
   Coding: 0112141
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 65C1A893AC73CAA1D2-8030

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: Lenkradmodul    H02 0050

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4E0-910-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 900     HW: 4E0 920 950 CX
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H54 0090 
   Revision: D21         Serial number: AUDID3F7000147
   Coding: 0000403
   Shop #: WSC 77827 127 721924
   VCID: 5CB78D779F398B697D-8008

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 4E0-910-468.clb
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 468     HW: 4E0 907 468 B
   Component: Gateway         H07 0070 
   Revision: 07          Serial number: 1300403820020A
   Coding: FEFE7BDC2B2D04
   Shop #: WSC 00000 128 00289
   VCID: 65C1A893AC73CAA1D2-8030

2 Faults Found:
01319 - Control Module for Distance Control (J428)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 132
                    Reset counter: 239
                    Mileage: 153602 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.07.06
                    Time: 21:23:00

00384 - Optical Databus
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 239
                    Mileage: 153602 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.07.06
                    Time: 22:04:35


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 1E: Media Player 2
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: User\4E0-910-131.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 131     HW: 4E0 909 131
   Component:     FBS AUDID3  H03 0120 
   Revision: 01203603    Serial number: AUX3Z0C8121858
   Coding: 0264192
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 58BF9167EB01674959-800C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: ELV                 XXXX
   XXXXXXXXXXX ELV                 XXXX   

No fault code found.

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Address 34: Level Control        Labels: User\4E0-910-553.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 553 F    HW: 4E0 907 553 E
   Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC    H05 6260 
   Coding: 0015510
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 2643EF9F91F501B91B-8072

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 239
                    Mileage: 154213 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2004.08.14
                    Time: 22:00:21


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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C    HW: 4E0 959 760
   Component: Sitzmemory FS  H06  0060 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
   Coding: 4063330
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 2345F68BE2C7F4917C-8076

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 38: Roof Electronics        Labels: 4E0-910-135.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 135 A    HW: 4E0 907 135 A
   Component: Dachknoten D3   H01 0080 
   Serial number: 00000321700038
   Coding: 0035968
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 1D31C073C4A3C2614A-8048

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 4E1-910-802-42.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E1 910 802     HW: 4E2 959 802
   Component: Türsteuer.FS BRM005 0100 
   Coding: 0028454
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 5EB3877F8925997913-800A

1 Fault Found:
02111 - Motor for Window Regulator
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100101
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 24
                    Mileage: 154208 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2004.08.21
                    Time: 22:10:42


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4E0-910-289.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 289 A    HW: 4E0 907 289
   Component: Komfortgeraet   H03 0030 
   Revision: 00300003    Serial number:  W040308140067
   Coding: 0004313
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 275DE29B96FF18B120-8072

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 907 719
   Component: Neigungssensor  H02 0020

2 Faults Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 213
                    Reset counter: 239
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 213
                    Reset counter: 239
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 47: Sound System
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: User\4E0-910-280.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 280     HW: 4E0 907 280 A
   Component: ILM Beifahrer   H07 0070 
   Revision:             Serial number: 00000000021465
   Coding: 0010101
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 5DB18073842382610A-8008

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 4E1-910-802-52.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E1 910 802     HW: 4E2 959 801
   Component: Türsteuer.BF BRM005 0110 
   Coding: 0028454
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 5EB3877F8925997913-800A

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4E0-910-801.clb
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 801 B    HW: 4E0 907 801 A
   Component: EPB  A22HC020   H02 0200 
   Revision: A22HC020   
   Coding: 0000331
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 1E33C77FC9A5D97953-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: User\4E0-910-357.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 357     HW: 4E0 907 357
   Component: Pre-AFS         H01 0030 
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 62CBB38FBD5DBD9937-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 57: TV Tuner
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 61: Battery Regul.        Labels: User\4E0-910-181.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 181 C    HW: 4E0 915 181 C
   Component: J0644 BEM       H12 0550 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000010062
   Shop #: WSC 55675 001 1048576
   VCID: 204FF987F3D1EF8961-8074

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 915 105 A
   Component: von VA0  331112C285       
   Coding: 344530393135313035412056413033333131313243323835
   Shop #: WSC 18088 001 104857

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 802     HW: 4E0 959 801 A
   Component: Türsteuer.HL BRM005 0110 
   Coding: 0028454
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 5DB18073842382610A-8008

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 802     HW: 4E0 959 802 A
   Component: Türsteuer.HR BRM005 0110 
   Coding: 0028454
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 5DB18073842382610A-8008

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4E0-910-283.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 283 C    HW: 4E0 919 283 C
   Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0020 
   Revision: 00H12000    Serial number: 08720519200155
   Coding: 0201108
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 2345F68BE2C7F4917C-8076

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:39)--------------------------

It does baffle me as to the cause of the steering angle sensor. The car hasn't moved and was connected to a Ctek maintainer. What did happen the evening prior was a power surge, could that be a cause?

The car drives horrible now as the air suspension has hardened up as it's also complaining about the steering angle sensor.
 
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Fuses all good. WD shows the steering angle sensor (G85) directly connect to 0x16 Steering column electronics control unit (J527), which is on line and no faults showing there.
 
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I have installed a replacement steering column electrics, that includes the clock spring, G85 steering angle sensor and 0x16 module. Which appears to be happy with no faults.

Code:
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4E0-910-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 549 A    HW: 4E0 953 549 C
   Component: J0527               0410 
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number: 90025071710060
   Coding: 0112151
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 2643EF9F91F501B91B-8072

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: E0221           H02 0050

No fault code found.

The G85 Defective error has gone in the ABS, as well as its soft coding. I'm guessing the lost coding happened while the battery was disconnected during the airbag removal.

Code:
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4E0-910-517.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 517 A    HW: 4E0 614 517 A
   Component: ESP 5.7 allrad  H29 0420 
   Coding: 0000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2149FC83F8DBE6816E-8074

2 Faults Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            000 - -
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation

My problem now is I can not perform the Basic Setting for the steering angle sensor under any condition, or change the coding back to 0008597, as the ABS will not accept the Login/Coding II 40168. So I'm a bit stuck now. Any help or ideas will be appreciated.
 
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You understand that you have to do an equipment-specific login before you can do the coding, right?

If the correct coding for this ABS is 0008597, then I think that equipment-specific login would be: 05297.

The whole process is shown in the video linked at the bottom of this page:

If you've been through that exactly as documented and it still doesn't work, I'll ask: Have you checked the readings from the steering angle sensor for plausibility?

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Thanks Uwe. I didn't realise the ABS was an equipment-specific login. That does help and I'll try the above tomorrow morning.
 
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I'll try the above tomorrow morning.
Please watch the video linked on that page. It's for lesser cars than your A8 so the values used for the equipment-specific login will be different, but the process is what's important, and is the same for your ESP 5.7 as any other.

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Thanks Uwe. I watched the video and decided to try the above now.

Login - 05297 accepts

Coding - 0008597 accepts with WSC of 02313

Login - 40168 accepts

Basic setting of Steering angle sensor - Alignment Status is Locked.

I tried the above with only ignition then with engine running and both have the same result of Alignment Status is Locked. I close the ABS module, then open it again and its soft coding is back to 00000000.

In measuring blocks the Steering Angle is fixed at -2.5, even when the steering wheel is rotated.

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Disconnect battery for few minutes , reconnect , recode abs
 
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I close the ABS module, then open it again and its soft coding is back to 00000000.

In measuring blocks the Steering Angle is fixed at -2.5, even when the steering wheel is rotated.
ABS coding won't "Stick" unless Steering Angle Sensor is successfully calibrated.

If ABS doesn't see steering angle change before you attempt to calibrate it, then it won't calibrate.

Do try what JMR recommended above. I'm not super-confident it will fix the problem, but it doesn't cost much to try.

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Disconnect battery for few minutes , reconnect , recode abs

Thanks Jammer, as Uwe predicted it hasn't fixed the problem. I've also gone for a test drive and the steering wheel has been through the full range of movement. In result the Steering Angle is fixed at -2.5 and therefore unable to proceed with the calibration. Fault codes are unchanged.

Code:
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4E0-910-517.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 517 A    HW: 4E0 614 517 A
   Component: ESP 5.7 allrad  H29 0420
   Coding: 0000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2149FC83F8DBE6816E-8074

2 Faults Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            000 - -
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation

Some observations are that the steering angle value of -2.5 is unchanged from the old component and that of the replacement, used, part. Is this value stored in 0x03 ABS or 0x16 Steering Wheel?

Group 005, field 2 "Rotation Rate" does change when the steering wheel is moved. Is this rotation rate measured from the slip ring or G85? Should I get another G85 to test? There's a chance the replacement used part is faulty.

Just for reference, (I don't know if all G85's are the same in VAG cars) in the 4E it clips into the slip ring and the electrical connections are to the 0x16 Steering Wheel board.

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About 3 months ago i ve had an 2002-3 A6 Avant with this LOCKED problem and after fussing with it for 30 minutes trying to basic set it ,i disconnected battery for few minutes and after that the sensor gave up and let me calibrate it. Try and move steering wheel left and right few times after you connect the battery only with the ignition on..maybe after that you get joy
 
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Can we get a fresh, complete Auto-Scan please?

-Uwe-

A new full scan.

Code:
Monday,24,January,2022,08:24:26:04620
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
VCDS Version: 21.9.0.2 (x64)
Data version: 20210903 DS330.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ4E04N008970   License Plate:
Mileage: 154220km-95827mi   Repair Order: forum



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Chassis Type: 4E (4E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 0F 13 15 16 17 19 1E 25 34 36 37 38
          42 46 47 4F 52 53 55 56 57 61 62 72 76

VIN: WAUZZZ4E04N008970   Mileage: 154220km-95827miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: Malfunction 1010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: Malfunction 0010
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
38-Roof Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
57-TV Tuner -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine        Labels: User\4E0-910-560-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 560 H    HW: 4E0 907 560
   Component: 3.7L V8/5V      A   0020
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUX3Z0C8121858
   Coding: 0011773
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 2643EF9F91F501B91B-8072
   VINID: 9D196AAAA115004780008247005A7D9D10

3 Faults Found:
17981 - Left Engine Mount Solenoid Valve (N144)
            P1573 - 004 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
17983 - Right Engine Mount Solenoid Valve (N145)
            P1575 - 001 - Short to Plus
18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30
            P1602 - 002 - Voltage too Low - Intermittent
Readiness: 0010 1101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09E-927-156.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 156 D    HW: 09E 927 156 A
   Component: AG6 09E 3,7L5V RdW  0070
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:        0019919
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 2345F68BE2C7F4917C-8076

1 Fault Found:
18289 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message
            P1881 - 000 - Acceleration Request - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    (no units): 30.0
                    (no units): 91.0
                    Temperature: 20.0°C
                    T.B. Angle: 0.0°
                    Voltage: 12.08 V


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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4E0-910-517.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 517 A    HW: 4E0 614 517 A
   Component: ESP 5.7 allrad  H29 0420
   Coding: 0000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2149FC83F8DBE6816E-8074

2 Faults Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
            000 - -
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: User\4E0-910-131.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 131     HW: 4E0 909 131
   Component:     FBS AUDID3  H03 0120
   Revision: 01203603    Serial number: AUX3Z0C8121858
   Coding: 0264192
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 58BF9167EB01674959-800C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: ELV                 XXXX

No fault code found.

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C    HW: 4E0 959 760
   Component: Sitzmemory BFS H06  0060
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
   Coding: 4063328
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 2345F68BE2C7F4917C-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 07: Control Head
Cannot be reached

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: User\4E0-910-043.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 043     HW: 4E0 820 043 A
   Component: KLIMAAUTOMAT    015 0240
   Revision: 00000018    Serial number: 00000000023996
   Coding: 1069057
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 5ABB8B6F950D75596F-800E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: User\4E0-910-279.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 279 E    HW: 4E0 907 279 E
   Component: ILM Fahrer      H11 0100
   Coding: 0110001
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 2A5B1BAF85ED25D93F-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E2 910 113 B
   Component: Wischer WWS D3  H50 0420
   Coding: 00000042
   Shop #: WSC 02311

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg        Labels: User\4E0-910-561.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 561 C    HW: 4E0 907 561 C
   Component: ABSTANDSREGELUNG    0010
   Coding: 0021158
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 224BF38FFDDDFD9977-8076

2 Faults Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
            013 - Check DTC Memory - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11111101
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 242
                    Mileage: 154220 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2003.10.08
                    Time: 22:50:00

             Freeze Frame:
                    Temperature: 9.0°C
                    Voltage: 12.16 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000

01316 - ABS Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11111101
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 242
                    Mileage: 154220 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2003.10.08
                    Time: 22:50:00

             Freeze Frame:
                    Temperature: 9.0°C
                    Voltage: 12.16 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00000000


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4E0-910-655-84.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 655     HW: 4E0 959 655
   Component: Airbag 8.4E+    H09 0940
   Coding: 0431707
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 63C5B68BA247B4913C-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4E0-910-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 549 A    HW: 4E0 953 549 C
   Component: J0527               0410
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number: 90025071710060
   Coding: 0112151
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 2643EF9F91F501B91B-8072

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: E0221           H02 0050

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4E0-910-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 900     HW: 4E0 920 950 CX
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H54 0090
   Revision: D21         Serial number: AUDID3F7000147
   Coding: 0000403
   Shop #: WSC 77827 127 721924
   VCID: 5CB78D779F398B697D-8008

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 4E0-910-468.clb
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 468     HW: 4E0 907 468 B
   Component: Gateway         H07 0070
   Revision: 07          Serial number: 1300403820020A
   Coding: FEFE7BDC2B2D04
   Shop #: WSC 00000 128 00289
   VCID: 65C1A893AC73CAA1D2-8030

2 Faults Found:
01319 - Control Module for Distance Control (J428)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 153
                    Reset counter: 25
                    Mileage: 153602 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.07.06
                    Time: 21:23:00

00384 - Optical Databus
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 242
                    Mileage: 153602 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.07.06
                    Time: 22:04:35


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Address 1E: Media Player 2
Cannot be reached

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: User\4E0-910-131.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 131     HW: 4E0 909 131
   Component:     FBS AUDID3  H03 0120
   Revision: 01203603    Serial number: AUX3Z0C8121858
   Coding: 0264192
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 58BF9167EB01674959-800C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: ELV                 XXXX
   XXXXXXXXXXX ELV                 XXXX 

No fault code found.

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Address 34: Level Control        Labels: User\4E0-910-553.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 553 F    HW: 4E0 907 553 E
   Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC    H05 6260
   Coding: 0015510
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 2643EF9F91F501B91B-8072

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 8
                    Reset counter: 242
                    Mileage: 154218 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2003.10.08
                    Time: 02:54:56


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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C    HW: 4E0 959 760
   Component: Sitzmemory FS  H06  0060
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
   Coding: 4063330
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 2345F68BE2C7F4917C-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation
Cannot be reached

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Address 38: Roof Electronics        Labels: 4E0-910-135.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 135 A    HW: 4E0 907 135 A
   Component: Dachknoten D3   H01 0080
   Serial number: 00000321700038
   Coding: 0035968
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 1D31C073C4A3C2614A-8048

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 4E1-910-802-42.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E1 910 802     HW: 4E2 959 802
   Component: Türsteuer.FS BRM005 0100
   Coding: 0028454
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 5EB3877F8925997913-800A

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4E0-910-289.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 289 A    HW: 4E0 907 289
   Component: Komfortgeraet   H03 0030
   Revision: 00300003    Serial number:  W040308140067
   Coding: 0004313
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 275DE29B96FF18B120-8072

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 907 719
   Component: Neigungssensor  H02 0020

2 Faults Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 213
                    Reset counter: 239
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0

01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 213
                    Reset counter: 239
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 47: Sound System
Cannot be reached

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: User\4E0-910-280.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 280     HW: 4E0 907 280 A
   Component: ILM Beifahrer   H07 0070
   Revision:             Serial number: 00000000021465
   Coding: 0010101
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 5DB18073842382610A-8008

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 4E1-910-802-52.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E1 910 802     HW: 4E2 959 801
   Component: Türsteuer.BF BRM005 0110
   Coding: 0028454
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 5EB3877F8925997913-800A

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4E0-910-801.clb
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 801 B    HW: 4E0 907 801 A
   Component: EPB  A22HC020   H02 0200
   Revision: A22HC020 
   Coding: 0000331
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 1E33C77FC9A5D97953-804A

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101101
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 26
                    Mileage: 154208 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2004.08.21
                    Time: 23:20:41

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 13.87 V
                    Count: 236


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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: User\4E0-910-357.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 357     HW: 4E0 907 357
   Component: Pre-AFS         H01 0030
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:             
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 62CBB38FBD5DBD9937-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 57: TV Tuner
Cannot be reached

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Address 61: Battery Regul.        Labels: User\4E0-910-181.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 181 C    HW: 4E0 915 181 C
   Component: J0644 BEM       H12 0550
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000010062
   Shop #: WSC 55675 001 1048576
   VCID: 204FF987F3D1EF8961-8074

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 915 105 A
   Component: von VA0  331112C285     
   Coding: 344530393135313035412056413033333131313243323835
   Shop #: WSC 18088 001 104857

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 802     HW: 4E0 959 801 A
   Component: Türsteuer.HL BRM005 0110
   Coding: 0028454
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 5DB18073842382610A-8008

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 802     HW: 4E0 959 802 A
   Component: Türsteuer.HR BRM005 0110
   Coding: 0028454
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 5DB18073842382610A-8008

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4E0-910-283.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 283 C    HW: 4E0 919 283 C
   Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0020
   Revision: 00H12000    Serial number: 08720519200155
   Coding: 0201108
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 2345F68BE2C7F4917C-8076

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:35)--------------------------

I've purchase another steering column set with a G85 from a 2006 car. Only £16.50 / $22, so worth a try.
 
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So this car had:
Code:
 Part No SW: 4E0 910 549     HW: 4E0 953 549
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul H09 0030 
   Coding: 0112141
and now it has:
Code:
Part No SW: 4E0 910 549 A    HW: 4E0 953 549 C
   Component: J0527               0410
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number: 90025071710060
   Coding: 0112151

First, I'll ask: Are you certain that 4E0-910-549-A is a compatible replacement for 4E0-910-549?

Second, I'll not that the original part was coded for a regular cruise control, while the replacement is coded for an adaptive cruise control. Now I doubt that this would result in the steering angle sensor refusing to work, but it should probably be corrected.

-Uwe-
 
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Hi Uwe,

First, I'll ask: Are you certain that 4E0-910-549-A is a compatible replacement for 4E0-910-549?

I'll be honest and I decided to buy the newest, used, part available as a replacement. The advert didn't say what revision the 0x16 module was, which I installed along with the slip ring and G85. I can certainly re-install my original 0x16 module

Second, I'll not that the original part was coded for a regular cruise control, while the replacement is coded for an adaptive cruise control. Now I doubt that this would result in the steering angle sensor refusing to work, but it should probably be corrected.

Agree, I will look into to correcting this.
 
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This vehicle has ACC (module 13) present. Unless there's something wrong with it, coding should be for ACC.
 
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The 2nd replacement steering column controls arrived in the week. I didn't want to faff around with removing the airbag and steering wheel this morning and plugged the 2nd replacement set as in the photo below just to test. Good news as I was able to re-code the ABS and perform basic setting of the steering angle sensor. So either the first replacement G85 is faulty or 4E0-910-549-A is not a compatible replacement (I think 4E0-910-549-A maybe for a heated steering wheel??). I'll install the steering column controls properly tomorrow. Hopefully case closed.

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A good way to check if you have a bad steering angle sensor is to check if the horn works or any of the steering wheel controls, often none of this stuff work if the clock spring has failed or the steering column control module. If the horn/ controls/buttons do not work chance are you have a bad clock spring or a bad steering control module or a voltage supply/ground/ signal issue. You can check and see if steering angle is being read via mvb.
 
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