2005 tdi jetta dsg long crank no start no tach new to ross tech and vw

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Data version: 20210903 DS330.0
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VIN: 3VWCT71K36M057213   License Plate:
Mileage: 277620km-172505mi   Repair Order: 1



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 47 52 56 62 65
          72 7D

VIN: 3VWCT71K36M057213   Mileage: 277620km-172505miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-016-BEW.lbl
   Part No SW: 03G 906 016 AC    HW: 028 101 223 9
   Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000DG  7551 
   Revision: --H05---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F4594402
   Coding: 0050078
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 6491A315B25F7D0B239-8030
   VINID: 0E69D390705B0C67401470810C49848FC4

1 Fault Found:
000802 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28)
               P0322 - 000 - No Signal - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11110000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 277621 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:37:21

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 9.50 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00001000
                    Idle Stabilization: 0.0°KW
                    RPM: 42 /min

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels:
   VCID: 55F78ED1EC059483A47-FFFE


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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101 
   Revision: 00H11001   
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 73B3D04907B1EAB3AA3-8026

3 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 820 047 FQ
   Component: Climatic PQ35   120 0606 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 78A9E7651ED789EB9F1-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 Q    HW: 3C0 937 049 Q
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H46 1501 
   Revision: 00H46000    Serial number: 00000000469820
   Coding: 14018E234004150007140000001400000028770B5C0000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 372B24595349469356B-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 260906 020  0501 
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 00066 

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 D    HW: 8E0 035 593 D
   Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H03 0060 
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7F7022876
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2A0D0D2D90FBEB7BD95-807E

2 Faults Found:
00446 - Function Limitation due to Under-Voltage
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 57
                    Mileage: 277621 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:37:20

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 8.00 V

02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 17
                    Mileage: 277621 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:35:02


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
   Component: 6A AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000 
   Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6D05WDWT 
   Coding: 0013889
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 6C81CB355A8F354B6B9-8038

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 F
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0005

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME12034347

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME1239213F8

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME041C115A1

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME0A684012%

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME0A5F0C6CK

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME0A5C6040+

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AS    HW: 1K0 953 549 AS
   Component: J0527           035 0070 
   Coding: 0012021
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 035380895711DA33BA3-8056

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: E0221           002 0010

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 973 D    HW: 1K0 920 973 D
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 1610 
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F4594402
   Coding: 0023203
   Shop #: WSC 03160 067 57207
   VCID: 2E05013DAC13875B05D-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 H    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533__Gateway   H12 0150 
   Revision:   H12       Serial number: 31001067250521
   Coding: 3FBF0B620F001002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 2C010B359A0FF54B2B9-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K5 919 965 A    HW: 1K5 919 965 A
   Component: Kompass         005 0003 
   Revision: 00005000    Serial number: 1293324T25C503
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 392F2261655D50E3A0F-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 920 973 D    HW: 1K0 920 973 D
   Component: IMMO            3HL 1610 
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F4594402
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2E05013DAC13875B05D-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 P    HW: 1K0 959 793 L
   Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1127 
   Revision: 12007001    Serial number: 00000540668916
   Coding: 0001205
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3B2338696F6162F3B23-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.070 H07 1806 
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 34311355423FAD8B739-8060

2 Faults Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            000 - -
01314 - Engine Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 277610 km
                    Temperature: 11.0°C
                    Voltage: 11.40 V
                    Voltage: 11.20 V


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CD    HW: 1K0 959 433 CD
   Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 051 0215 
   Revision: 00051000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 13900F880186281B0904058FB0880F0488DC00
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 74B1D35502BFED8BB39-8020

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted    

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted    

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted    

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 3C0-035-456.clb
   Part No: 1K6 035 456 A
   Component: 08K Audioverst.     0005 
   Revision: 00003000    Serial number: 00000000011958
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2A0D0D2D90FBEB7BD95-807E

1 Fault Found:
00877 - Treble Speaker Rear Right (R16)
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 P    HW: 1K0 959 792 L
   Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1127 
   Revision: 12007001    Serial number: 00000020568917
   Coding: 0001204
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3C213B756A6F65CBBB9-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 G    HW: 1K0 035 180 G
   Component: Radio DE2       145 0176 
   Revision: 00145000    Serial number: VWZ4Z7F2128801
   Coding: 0010400
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2411E315F2DF3D0BE39-8070

5 Faults Found:
00870 - Bass Speaker Front Left (R21)
            011 - Open Circuit
00871 - Bass Speaker Front Right (R23)
            011 - Open Circuit
00872 - Bass Speaker Rear Left (R15)
            011 - Open Circuit
00873 - Bass Speaker Rear Right (R17)
            011 - Open Circuit
00003 - Control Module
            014 - Defective

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 Q    HW: 1K0 959 795 J
   Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1115 
   Revision: 12004001    Serial number: 00000000297803
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3E25317D7C7377DB95D-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CD    HW: 1K0 959 433 CD
   Component:    RDK              0420 
   Revision: 00051000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0100101
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   VCID: 74B1D35502BFED8BB39-8020

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 Q    HW: 1K0 959 794 J
   Component: J389   TUER-SG HR   1115 
   Revision: 12005001    Serial number: 00000000369151
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3FDB4C797B797ED39EB-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
   Component: PTC-Element         0404 
   Revision: 00800000    Serial number:              
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D070631A115FC433C7-8078

1 Fault Found:
00361 - Heater Element for Auxiliary Heater (Z35)
            014 - Defective

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:44, VBatt start/end: 11.5V/11.6V. VIgn 11.6V)-----
 
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Hi and welcome.

The symptoms described are consistent with the "No Signal" from the Engine Speed Sensor (G28). Check/verify wiring between that sensor and the ECU, and replace the sensor wiring is OK.

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I replaced the sensor with one from the auto parts oem import brand still no signal the sensor is grey in color same as the one I took off but I am unsure if it is original so
I checked the wiring harness and found bad wires so I replaced the engine harness with a used one off a running parts car and inspected the harness before installing it and have the same problem and codes. I purchased this car used from an auction and have no info on previous work but I did find a recite for a new serpentine belt, tensioner and a timing belt set in the car. When the car starts it runs smooth but does have a slight rattle at idle I'm guessing dmf, could this be causing any of the engine speed sensor issues? I am considering replacing the rear main seal and crank sensor and dmf any recommendations on where to get quality parts? I also hate to go through all the work of a dmf swap and still have issues with the engine speed sensor. I would rather fix the speed sensor issue first unless it could be rear main seal related since the signal ring is in the seal.
 
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also i pulled the ecm and tried swapping it with another one and the immobilizer light came on but still no crank signal while cranking and when running before immobilizer shut it off
 
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Have you checked/verified the wiring between that sensor and the ECU?

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that's the harness I replaced off a running car with working tach but I didn't check since installed
 
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also you need a battery, that 9.50 v doesn't help at all, ecu is dizzy at that voltage...jesus
 
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that 9.50 v doesn't help at all, ecu is dizzy at that voltage
I suspect that fault (and the Freeze-Frame data associated with it) were set during cranking. I'm not convinced he needs a battery, but his battery definitely needs to be charged:
VBatt start/end: 11.5V/11.6V.

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I suspect that fault (and the Freeze-Frame data associated with it) were set during cranking. I'm not convinced he needs a battery, but his battery definitely needs to be charged:


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or what you say , correct...i meant that he needs good voltage/batt ery
 
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It has a new battery that was after having the key on without a charger but the volts do drop cause of the long cranking to start and I did multiple starts when testing. I had the charger on but it was my big jump/charger and i was getting codes for high voltage so I took it off and must have run the battery down low.
 
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Could it be my transmission speed sensor? I have read they both work together but I would think the tach would work. It shows rpms on vcds when running so I swapped the gauge cluster and still no tach
 
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Could it be my transmission speed sensor?
No. That would not keep the engine from running, nor would it set an explicit Engine Speed Sensor fault.

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Wiring harness on those Mexican cars are problematic. Check where it flexes by the radiator and under/ around the tandem pump. FORGET that you replaced it with a USED part!

Also green death at the ECM.
 
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I pulled the new used harness off and inspected it and didn't see any problems so I installed the original harness and run jumper wires to the ecm and still no tach. The pins on the ecm and harness both look good. Is it possible I got a bad sensor or the pick up ring the sensor reads is bad.
 
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Is it possible I got a bad sensor or the pick up ring the sensor reads is bad.
You need to check the signal with an oscilloscope.
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Could it be my transmission speed sensor? I have read they both work together but I would think the tach would work. It shows rpms on vcds when running so I swapped the gauge cluster and still no tach
so let me understand..you have rpm signal on vcds , but not on tacho ?
There could be an issue in the wiring between ecu/ instrument cluster. Can you perform a instrument cluster activation ( speed, tacho, temp , etc etc )? See if they work ...
 
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Yeah when it start I have rpm on vcds but no tach and engine speed sensor code.

I was told it will default to the cam position sensor if the crank sensor reads out of parameter. I will check on the cluster activation in the next couple days we got hit with a winter storm and I have been working a lot of overtime
 
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