HVAC control unit in dash not showing any lights or displays

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But they work fine. 2005 Jetta MK5. Fan speed and temp change as I turn the knob but none of the lights in the knobs or buttons work and neither do the two small display screens. This just started recently.

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This is the connector diagram:

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There is 12V on the T20 connector pin 20. Are there other pins I should check for? Here is the scan:

Code:
Thursday,28,October,2021,12:25:23:53717
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 21.9.0.2 (x64)
Data version: 20210903 DS330.0
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VIN: 3VWDF71K95M643828   License Plate:
Mileage: 205140km-127468mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 36 42 44 46 47 52 56 62
          72

VIN: 3VWDF71K95M643828   Mileage: 205140km-127468miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-BGP.lbl
   Part No SW: 06A 906 032 QE    HW: Hardware No
   Component: 2.5l R5/4V      G   6656
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E2151112
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 71E323F86878CF033C-8024

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0010 1100

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No: 09G 927 750 AS
   Component: AQ 250 6F           0649
   Coding: 0000008
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 02017C345DDEC49957-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 K
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0104
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3A71C4D4758E4C594F-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 044 AG
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 066 0505
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6CDD328C4F5A22E98D-8038

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 C    HW: 1K0 937 049 C*
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H34 0803
   Revision: 00H34000    Serial number: 00000000070338
   Coding: F40D8E02400418000014000000140000002077035C
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2F67E580BECC99F1E8-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW350  012  0401
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 00000

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 M  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RegenLichtSens 005  0605
   Coding: 00217125
   Shop #: WSC 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-XM.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 E    HW: 8E0 035 593 E
   Component: SDAR XM         H03 0060
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7E3024049
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B5FF1908AD4E5D1C4-807E

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 8
                    Reset counter: 154
                    Mileage: 204656 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 02:34:51


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 E    HW: 1K0 909 605 E
   Component: 1S AIRBAG VW8R  024 6300
   Revision: 03024000    Serial number: 0037KD01Y0XP
   Coding: 0012627
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 2E59F884B9C690F9E3-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 B
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 006 0003

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME08584B0AH

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME085C5A6DV

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME067D1A70B

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME070A1007-

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME065A62683

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME065A4122Y

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AC    HW: 1K0 953 549 AC
   Component: J0527           010 0045
   Coding: 0012041
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 73EF29F01264FD114C-8026

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: E0221           007 0050

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 920 971 C
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT 3HL 2120
   Coding: 0023203
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 2B5FF1908AD4E5D1C4-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 E    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: Gateway         H11 0110
   Revision: 11          Serial number: 290010532104F6
   Coding: 3F7F03620F1002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 29530B988028F7C136-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K5 919 965     HW: 1K5 919 965
   Component: Kompass         002 0001
   Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 0371356TP4DQ03
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 78F51EDC0B029E4979-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K0 920 971 C
   Component: IMMO            3HL 2120
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B5FF1908AD4E5D1C4-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: 3C0-959-760.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 760 A    HW: 3C0 959 760 A
   Component: Sitzverstellung     0601
   Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B5FF1908AD4E5D1C4-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2339
   Coding: 0001271
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3669D0E44196A839AB-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 H
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.3       1502
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3065E6FCA3F28609F1-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 AT    HW: 1K0 959 433 AT
   Component: 01 KSG PQ35 G2  010 0101
   Revision: 00010000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 13100F880106281B0906050FA0080F0490A540
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 02017C345DDEC49957-8056

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder No Answer

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 114
                    Mileage: 205143 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:16:21


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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 3C0-035-456.clb
   Part No: 1K6 035 456
   Component: 08K Audioverst.     0003
   Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 00000000029577
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 69D34B9840A837C1F6-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2339
   Coding: 0001271
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3777DDE0469C5131B0-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180     HW: 1K0 035 180
   Component: Radio ZSW       015 0016
   Revision: 00015000    Serial number: VWZ5Z7E6277901
   Coding: 0010010
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 5DBB6F4884E05B610A-8008

1 Fault Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna
            011 - Open Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 52
                    Reset counter: 114
                    Mileage: 204656 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 02:37:20


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2416
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3163E3F8A8F88F01FE-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2416
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3261ECF4ADFEB41987-8066

No fault code found.

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These things have been known to fail like that - not super common, but I've seen it on forums several times.

For how cheap the control panel should be (used), it may be easier to buy a cheapo and try it anyway?

You need one for a heater with 2 re-circ motors (Generally, if it still has the ECON button, you should be fine. Later ones usually had the AC button instead and won't work correctly).
 
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There is 12V on the T20 connector pin 20.
Since you have a fault that says, "Supply Voltage B+ -- Lower Limit Exceeded" I'll ask, did you load-test that wire?

Just because has 12V when it's unplugged from the module doesn't mean it can actually supply a the requisite amount of current.

Oh, and check your ground connection too.

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Since you have a fault that says, "Supply Voltage B+ -- Lower Limit Exceeded" I'll ask, did you load-test that wire?

Just because has 12V when it's unplugged from the module doesn't mean it can actually supply a the requisite amount of current.

Oh, and check your ground connection too.

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Ok I'll check that under load. And which pin is ground? I assume it would also be the only other large one next to #20 but there is no mention of pin #19 although it IS a ground. I'll check under load too. And #17 is sensor ground and #14 in T16g is potentiometer ground. Check those too?

These things have been known to fail like that - not super common, but I've seen it on forums several times.

For how cheap the control panel should be (used), it may be easier to buy a cheapo and try it anyway?

You need one for a heater with 2 re-circ motors (Generally, if it still has the ECON button, you should be fine. Later ones usually had the AC button instead and won't work correctly).
$35 at the junk yard. Thought I might open this one up first to see if there are any cold solder joints or burned components.
 
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Nothing obvious internally. Would this one work? Has the DUAL button which mine doesn't.

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Got one from the junk yard. Works fine now.

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