2014 RS5 - Do not exceed 6000RPM message and coolant temp rising

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I am a new owner of this car that had all service done previously at the dealership by the previous owner. It has 48,000 miles on it and last week when getting on the freeway I got a message on the console saying "Do Not Exceed 6000RPMs" with a yellow warning light. I was close to home and drove straight there and immediately ran an auto scan on the car. No codes were found. After doing some research, I checked the coolant level in the reservior and found that it was a little below the min mark when the car was cold so I filled it to the halfway point between min/max and took the car out for a test drive. While driving in the city all seemed well, but when I got on the freeway again the same thing happened with the 6000RPM warning. I scanned the car again and no codes. I have called a couple of shops near by and they said that if I get that rev warning there should be a code associated with it. I am running the Auto Scan feature on my car and am not seeing any codes. Am I doing something wrong?
 
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Hi Bruce,

Here is the scan.

Andy


Code:
Sunday,12,September,2021,13:04:56:39250
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 21.3.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4543.4
Data version: 20210226 DS325.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WUAC6AFH8EN900172   License Plate:
Mileage: 77770km-48324mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: FH-AU48 (8R0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 26 36 3C 42 44 46 47 52
          53 56 5F 62 6C 72

VIN: WUAC6AFH8EN900172   Mileage: 77770km-48324miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
26-Auto Roof -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: Malfunction 0010
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (------CFSA)       Labels:. 079-907-560-CFS.clb
   Part No SW: 8T2 907 560 F    HW: 8T1 907 560
   Component: 4.2l V8HDZ /  H04 0005 
   Revision: NAH04---   
   Coding: 2225003225A6080D3000
   Shop #: WSC 02789 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM42FSI0118T2907560F 001004
   ROD: EV_ECM42FSI011_AU48.rod
   VCID: 3FDB485477F429D3B69-806A

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0B5-927-156.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 927 156 H    HW: 0B5 927 156 J
   Component: 0B5 42 FSINAR H02 0006 
   Revision: --H02---   
   Coding: 000001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDL501021 001025
   ROD: EV_TCMDL501021.rod
   VCID: 42DD41A00406443BD97-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 8K0-907-379-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 379 F    HW: 8T0 907 379 F
   Component: ESP8 quattro  H09 0100 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 341D1A
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 45D75ABC15A87303FC5-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 GP    HW: 8K0 907 064 FP
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H12 0633 
   Revision: 00002001   
   Coding: 0D830F40000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 045187B85E128A0BABB-8050

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 E    HW: 8K0 905 852 E
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H40 0046
   Serial number: 2313000106921005   

No fault code found.

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass (J521)       Labels:. 8T0-959-760.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 760 F    HW: 8T0 959 760 F
   Component: MEM-BFS       H10 0076 
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000062251600
   Coding: C80370250D2400001000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 46D55DB028AE781BF5F-8012

1 Fault Found:
00447 - Function Limitation due to Over-Voltage
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Mileage: 77187 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2021.08.20
                    Time: 18:33:46


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:. 8Kx-820-043-3Z.clb
   Part No SW: 8K1 820 043 AL    HW: 8K1 820 043 AL
   Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H04 0121 
   Revision: C3000000    Serial number: 01120620130644
   Coding: 4803200E00
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 72BDD16074A6B4BB897-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 DJ    HW: 8K0 907 063 DJ
   Component: BCM1 1.0      H16 0103 
   Revision: 09016001    Serial number: 00000627536001
   Coding: 06000091043CAFE0250048C0000039094F9CD388A209022100000B004000010200040074000000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 7AADF9402CD6CCFBC17-802E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8F1 955 119     HW: 8K1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS 110613  H07 0080
   Serial number: SWF13060115327     
   Coding: 00FD11

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 B    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
   Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0002
   Serial number: 21422127           
   Coding: 02005D

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AQ    HW: 8K0 941 531 AQ
   Component: E1 - LDS  H03 0031
   Serial number: 00000000002705130094

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4G0 907 410 A    HW: 4H0 907 410 A
   Component: USHL4.2  H30 0030
   Serial number: 0000002274555R6ELW02

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 8K5 941 329     HW: 8K5 941 329
H01 0031

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 8K5 941 329     HW: 8K5 941 329
H01 0031

   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658     HW: 4H0 907 658
   Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H03 0003
   Serial number: 1428C1B6000000000001

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 8F0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8F0 959 655 E    HW: 8F0 959 655 E
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H12 0430 
   Serial number: 003KKD808MX+ 
   Coding: 303741353731303030304A55304C38463053
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaAU10SMEAU485 001004
   ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010.rod
   VCID: 3A2D39406CD60CFB817-806E

   Seat occupied recognition:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 339 A    HW: 8K0 959 339 A
   Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H02 0060
   Serial number: 5810000R130000DQXT

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 6334MSME7954614EN

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
   Serial number: 6344MSME7B242D2BQ

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
   Serial number: 6352QSME11324B7EK

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
   Serial number: 6362QSME073219404

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
   Serial number: 63732SME3934585C5

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
   Serial number: 63832SME39342C7A7

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 M    HW: 8K0 953 568 M
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H03 0005 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 90372MEN000M8
   Coding: 000036
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 44D147B81E924A0BEBB-8010

   Component: E221 - MFL  H03 0004

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 920 984 H    HW: 8T0 920 984 H
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H35 0563 
   Revision: 00500000    Serial number: WVZ35996E     
   Coding: 8BBF19008B01D705020000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 44D147B81E924A0BEBB-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 468 P    HW: 8R0 907 468 D
   Component: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H11 0056 
   Revision: 1Z110028    Serial number: 2841Z13529014E
   Coding: 80E3031600
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 4CC16F9836C2824B23B-8018

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 915 181     HW: 8T0 915 181
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8041
   Serial number: 0779180603         

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD (J492)       Labels: 8K0-907-163.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 163 B    HW: 8K0 907 163 A
   Component: 4 Wheel Drive H14 0100 
   Serial number: 001506130001413
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelDiffeQSPCAN 003019
   ROD: EV_AllWheelDiffeQSPCAN.rod
   VCID: 2F3B1814A794D953269-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 26: Auto Roof (J256)       Labels:* 8F0-959-255.clb
   Part No SW: 8F0 959 255     HW: 8F0 959 255
   Component: VSG-AUDI-B8   H12 0190 
   Coding: 030000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ElectRoofContr 001008
   ROD: EV_ElectRoofContr.rod
   VCID: 71BFDE6C71208FA370D-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels:. 8T0-959-760.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 760 F    HW: 8T0 959 760 F
   Component: MEM-FS        H10 0076 
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000062251817
   Coding: C81B7B250D2400001000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 46D55DB028AE781BF5F-8012

1 Fault Found:
00447 - Function Limitation due to Over-Voltage
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 3
                    Mileage: 77187 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2021.08.20
                    Time: 18:33:46


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Address 3C: Lane Change (J769)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-566.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 566 B    HW: 8T0 907 566 B
   Component: SWA Master    H04 0060 
   Serial number: 0306692379
   Coding: 010211
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LaneChangAssis 001020
   ROD: EV_LaneChangAssis_AU21.rod
   VCID: 3FDB485477F429D3B69-806A

   Lane change assistance control module 2:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 907 568 B    HW: 8T0 907 568 B
   Component: SWA Slave  H04 0060
   Serial number: 0305822649         
   Coding: 000102

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 793 P    HW: 8T0 959 793 G
   Component: TSG FA        H09 0305 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 011C53724E08332C03
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 56F58DF0F80EC89B85F-8002

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 8K0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 909 144 F    HW: 8K0 909 144 B
   Component: RCEPS         H37 0507 
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 0010572409
   Coding: 100000010001
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPSAU48X 008014
   ROD: EV_RCEPSAU48X_008.rod
   VCID: 343117784EB2FA8B5BB-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 GP    HW: 8K0 907 064 FP
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H12 0633 
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0309031354   
   Coding: 010606BA00FA402180B0033200000000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 045187B85E128A0BABB-8050

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8F0 959 719 B    HW: 8K0 959 719
   Component: GTO BF  H01 0080
   Serial number: 00000000000000677792

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:. 8T0-035-223-BOM.clb
   Part No SW: 8F1 035 223 A    HW: 8F1 035 223 A
   Component: DSP Prem      H05 0030 
   Revision: 00005001    Serial number: 94833015988702
   VCID: 1F1BE8D4D7B449D3969-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 792 P    HW: 8T0 959 792 G
   Component: TSG BF        H09 0305 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 011C53324E08332C03
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 55F78AFCE508C3838C5-8000

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (----)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 M    HW: 8K0 907 801 J
   Component: EPB-4         H01 0004 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000001323561
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001028
   ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_AU48.rod
   VCID: 392F264C69D007E388D-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4G0 035 082 H    HW: 4G0 035 082
   Component: Radio U SIRIU H60 0138 
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 156F-0D7814810
   Coding: 020007010000000101
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 2517FA3CF5E89303DC5-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 8R1 035 746 K    HW: 8R1 035 746 D
   Component: H-BNT-NA      H40 1040 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 204F.0D7583517
   Coding: 150200030306E1EF55028B4E00000401150000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 3FDB4854777429D3B69-806A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 BD
   Component: NAR 2013/2014  0802

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 919 604 A    HW: 8R0 919 604 A
   Component: DU7 High  H42 0104
   Serial number: A130EP0D2745333     

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 611 L    HW: 8T0 919 611 C
   Component: E0380 Bedient  H02 0030
   Serial number: 00000001533139     

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 F
   Component: CD-Database  5298

4 Faults Found:
03276 - Please Check Software Version Management
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 210
                    Mileage: 76866 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2021.08.04
                    Time: 09:54:22

             Freeze Frame:
                    Text: DUA130,Front,M,0,0,6                   

00658 - Control Head
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 18
                    Time Indication: 15

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 12.20 V

02244 - Button in Control Head is Stuck
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 21
                    Mileage: 77727 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2021.09.11
                    Time: 15:57:03

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 12.10 V
                    Hex Value: 0x0005
                        not available

03389 - Data Set Implausible
            000 - -
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 210
                    Mileage: 76866 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2021.08.04
                    Time: 09:54:20

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 12.00 V
                    Bin. Bits:      010


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 795 F    HW: 8T0 959 795 F
   Component: TSG HL        H08 0305 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 010C13304008372C03
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 4EC56590C0DEB05B4DF-801A

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 8T0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 8F0 907 441     HW: 4L0 907 441 B
   Component: J772__Rearview      0040 
   Revision: --H08---    Serial number: 525PA8-J35B0DJ
   Coding: 1020009
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 678BB034436441132E9-8032

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 8K0-959-794.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 959 795 F    HW: 8T0 959 795 F
   Component: TSG HR        H08 0305 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 010C13304008372C03
   Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
   VCID: 4EC56590C0DEB05B4DF-801A

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 02:04, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/12.0V. VIgn 12.0V)-----
 
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Hmm. ECU reports "No fault code found.".
Gateway reports: "01-Engine -- Status: OK"

If it were mine, I would have a look at what the ECU thinks the coolant temp is when this happens. No, not the gauge; the gauge is a joke. The measuring value in the ECU:
IDE00025-ENG167462 -- Coolant temperature

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Hmm. ECU reports "No fault code found.".
Gateway reports: "01-Engine -- Status: OK"

If it were mine, I would have a look at what the ECU thinks the coolant temp is when this happens. No, not the gauge; the gauge is a joke. The measuring value in the ECU:
IDE00025-ENG167462 -- Coolant temperature

-Uwe-
Those engine ECUs include software that detects the coolant (and oil temperatures IIRC - at least that was true on my RS4) and eithers advises or limits the RPM if the temperatures are too low to safely allow high revs to be used.
 
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Thanks @Uwe and @PetrolDave I checked the coolant temp with an old BT ODBII device and Torque Pro. I did it this way as my VCDS adapter is cabled and wanted to be able to hold the tablet in front of me. The coolant temp reached 245 degrees F before the 6000RPM warning showed. That's also when the Temp gauge on the car started to rise. I have read that the normal operating temp should be around 212F so I think that is a bit high. I immediately shut the car off when it hit that number.
 
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The coolant temp reached 245 degrees F before the 6000RPM warning showed. That's also when the Temp gauge on the car started to rise. I have read that the normal operating temp should be around 212F so I think that is a bit high. I immediately shut the car off when it hit that number.
Sounds like you have a problem with either the thermostat or a coolant pump - if the temperature gauge isn't starting to rise until the water temp reaches 245F then something isn't opening up the coolant circuit to the radiator correctly. Time to get a diagram of the coolant circuit and doing some mechanical investigation IMHO.
 
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Thanks PetrolDave. I suspect it may be the thermostat or the water pump as well. I spoke to a mechanic yesterday that said most likely the T-Stat as the water pumps has a metalic impeller and he said those don't fail as often. I am going to schedule a day to have the car serviced next week.
 
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Those engine ECUs include software that detects the coolant (and oil temperatures IIRC - at least that was true on my RS4) and eithers advises or limits the RPM if the temperatures are too low to safely allow high revs to be used.
It sounds like this one also advises (and/or limits?) if the coolant temp gets too high...?

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Is this one of those faults that may be reported in Aggressive mode @Uwe ?

I also can’t remember if Aggressive mode is enabled by default.
 
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I also can’t remember if Aggressive mode is enabled by default.
On almost all modules it is. There was a transmission or two where it isn't because all of them report a plethora of faults that way at all times. In any case, I'm pretty confident it is enabled in that ECU.

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