Engine Vibration at Idle and Juddering Pulling Away

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Hi, my VW Sharan 2017Y has developed an engine vibration at idle and juddering on pulling away? Undertook a VCDS scan and apart from the TPMS errors that were down to a slow puncture which has been repaired the only other faults are 18826 Coolant Pump for Intercooler and 03789 Terminial 75 Limp Mode Active?
Wondered if the Coolant Pump issue would cause this? I considered it may be an injector problem or possibly the dual mass flywheel starting to fall apart?
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Sunday,05,September,2021,14:53:57:08428
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 21.9.0.1 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4555.4
Data version: 20210824 DS330.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ7NZJV007025   License Plate: FN67 ORU
Mileage: 244350km-151832mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 7N-VW36 (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 18 19 25 42 44 46 4C 52 53 5F 61
          62 69 72

VIN: WVWZZZ7NZJV007025   Mileage: 244350km-151832miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (J623-DFMA)       Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04L 906 016 HJ    HW: 04L 907 309 K
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H20 1628  
   Revision: 8AH20---    CVN: 61FB8A94B866C2AD
   Coding: 0119001A043501082000
   Shop #: WSC 53961 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906016HJ 001003
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906016HD_001_VW36.rod
   VCID: 78A9EF25C251450B9F2-802C
   VINID: 9E69EAAAA1DEA9A9800070021452E6CF9A

1 Fault Found:
18826 - Coolant Pump for Intercooler 
          P190D 00 [032] - Mechanical Malfunction
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5N0-614-109-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 CL    HW: 5N0 614 109 CL
   Component: ESC-EBC460iV1 H14 0014  
   Serial number: A01IWR7
   Coding: 11F0449A8920C2730877880222C89143103117F0000B4085
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESCEPBTRW 006353
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESCEPBTRW_006.rod
   VCID: 77ABEC19CF4F4A73968-8022

2 Faults Found:
0763 - Tire Pressure Warning 
          C102D 00 [136] - -
          MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 19
                    Reset counter: 133
                    Mileage: 214290 km
                    Date: 2020.09.04
                    Time: 16:02:25

                    Additional_Codes: 26 C1 00 0D 84 7F 00 48 02
                    DTC: 00 02 FB
                    Additional2: 00 05 01 08 05 22 15 00 15 00

0764 - TPMS Display 
          C1146 F0 [136] - Not Available
          MIL ON - Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 78
                    Mileage: 237726 km
                    Date: 2021.06.27
                    Time: 06:14:09

                    Additional_Codes: 1B 7C 00 0D 8C 7F 00 48 02
                    DTC: 00 02 FC
                    Additional2: 00 0A 01 08 05 22 A2 00 A2 00


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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 044 AS    HW: 7N0 907 044 AS
   Component: Clima-Sharan  H04 0606  
   Revision: 00001K06    
   Coding: 021000C449
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimatronicSharan A01005
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoSharaBasis.rod
   VCID: 015F82C1918B04C3A8C-8054

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 T    HW: 5K0 937 086 T
   Component: BCM PQ35 M    122 0186  
   Revision: BC122001    
   Coding: 40180A3F8925E1C0408800C09400817403D10008426D29226480C72000C1
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 45D756D1C5A3E8E3D44-8010

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7N2 955 119 B    HW: 7N2 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS428 030617  024 0644 
   Serial number: 17060103004531      
   Coding: 004DBD

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 B    HW: 5Q0 955 547 B  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLHS  042 0105 
   Serial number: S4Y17M06D28H18M56S02
   Coding: 0228BB

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 7N0 951 172 
   Component: Sensor, DWA 0  005 0502 
   Coding: 000000

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 F
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H01 0008 
   Coding: 000000

1 Fault Found:
03789 - Terminal 75 Limp Mode Active 
            000 - - - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 158
                    Mileage: 243511 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2021.09.01
                    Time: 12:02:51

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 11.90 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 919 472 C    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0480  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 39361719100057
   Coding: 0031051101
   Shop #: WSC 53961 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18VW364GP00 001007
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18VW364GP00_VW32.rod
   VCID: 372B2C198FCF8A73568-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 7N0-907-572.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 572 C    HW: 7N0 907 572 
   Component: ACC Bosch PQx H03 0211  
   Serial number: 2805170440A1AB
   Coding: 00000100FE0739
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCBEGVW361 001006
   ROD: EV_ACCBEGVW361.rod
   VCID: 3635211D88C5737B4DE-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 655 D    HW: 7N0 959 655 D
   Component: VW10Airbag11H H15 0016  
   Serial number: 003PWPDWG6ZF
   Coding: 003148
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10TS6VW428 A01010
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10TS6VW428.rod
   VCID: 40D947C5DA01CDCBE72-8014

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: ---            HW: ---        
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  --- ---  
   Serial number: 3493ETS608FF9791DDDR
   Coding: 000000

   Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: ---            HW: ---        
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  --- ---  
   Serial number: 3503ETS60971C7A1D9D+
   Coding: 000000

   Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side): 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: ---            HW: ---        
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  --- ---  
   Serial number: 3513ETS6085C2791D9D$
   Coding: 000000

   Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: ---            HW: ---        
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  --- ---  
   Serial number: 3523ETS60331B7A1D9DW
   Coding: 000000

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: ---            HW: ---        
   Component: F.Sens.Fahr  --- ---  
   Serial number: 35540TS603B587F1D9D-
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 569 BC    HW: 5K0 953 569 BC
   Component: LENKS.MODUL   018 0230  
   Revision: --X01---    Serial number: 20190803200352
   Coding: 1082440008
   Shop #: WSC 01286 386 08256
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C 001001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSR8C.rod
   VCID: 7AADF52DFC5D571BE96-802E

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6C0 959 442 A    HW: 6C0 959 442 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAT  H06 0023 
   Serial number: 1641713483301425AD1B
   Coding: 280000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 7N0 920 970 Q    HW: 7N0 920 970 Q
   Component: KOMBI         H03 1107  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 410F010800
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05733
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
   VCID: 41DF42C1D10BC4C3E8C-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-815-071.clb
   Part No: 7N0 963 271 G
   Component: Zuheizer        051 3041  
   Revision: 00051000    Serial number: 09028242000000
   Coding: 0000041
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 38292F258E51850B5F2-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 BL    HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: J533  Gateway H56 1682  
   Revision:   H56       Serial number: 240617F1000528
   Coding: 468023
   Shop #: WSC 00000 288 1232291
   VCID: 7BA3F029F3E76E13F20-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H03 1107  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A8DC56D8CFDE79B196-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 7N0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 793 J    HW: 7N0 959 793 G
   Component: TSG FA        H05 0561  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000263070715 
   Coding: 01110620D101411011
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 12345
   VCID: 49CF5AE1E9BB0C8330C-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 7N0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 275    3501  
   Revision: 00H21000    
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 42DD4DCDD88DDFDBF16-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 7N0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 792 J    HW: 7N0 959 792 G
   Component: TSG BF        H05 0561  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000263073709 
   Coding: 01110420DE01411011
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 12345
   VCID: 48C95FE5F2B1F58B2F2-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 5K7 035 200 K    HW: 5K7 035 200 K
   Component: MU-S-D-ER     H41 0449  
   Serial number: VWZAZ2T5281563
   Coding: 02240800FF00000011111101008808001F0100C60020010003
   Shop #: WSC 00020 999 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW32.rod
   VCID: 2C010375468939AB2BA-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 534     HW: 7N0 907 530 AN
   Component: Batt.regelung H56 1682  
   Serial number: 240617F1000528
   Coding: 030F7873
   Shop #: WSC 00000 288 1232291
   VCID: 71BFD201A1AB144358C-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 915 181 L    HW: 1K0 915 181 L
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0270 
   Serial number: 44166F47225831516902

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 7N0-959-794.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 794 K    HW: 7N0 959 794 G
   Component: TSG HL        H06 0561  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000265257031 
   Coding: 010004200001411001
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 4BC360E9E3C71E93020-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 H    HW: 1K0 907 383 G
   Component: Anhaenger     H12 0130  
   Revision: 3B001001    Serial number: 00000366687497
   Coding: 0100000101000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 323D1D0D642D6F5B616-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 7N0-959-794.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 959 794 K    HW: 7N0 959 794 G
   Component: TSG HR        H06 0561  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000265257388 
   Coding: 010004200001411001
   Shop #: WSC 00020 790 00000
   VCID: 4BC360E9E3C71E93020-801E

No fault code found.

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Strikes me as unlikely.


How does the engine run otherwise? Good at idle? Good under load?

-Uwe-
It's a bit rough at idle but once you move up the rev range and increase speed it runs ok, given that it does have 151,000 on the clock. Had the vehicle running at idle and by pushing the clutch pedal up & down you can hear the note of the noise change and the rattle. So at the moment will settle for a problem with the clutch until I get it into my independent VAG Specialist and see what they say in the next couple of days. Fairly confident the engine is not going to disintegrate on me!
 
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Had the vehicle running at idle and by pushing the clutch pedal up & down you can hear the note of the noise change and the rattle.

Perhaps, at 151K, Throw out bearing ? Let us know what you find.
 
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It's a bit rough at idle but once you move up the rev range and increase speed it runs ok, given that it does have 151,000 on the clock. Had the vehicle running at idle and by pushing the clutch pedal up & down you can hear the note of the noise change and the rattle. So at the moment will settle for a problem with the clutch until I get it into my independent VAG Specialist and see what they say in the next couple of days. Fairly confident the engine is not going to disintegrate on me!
I had my 2010 jetta 2.0 at a volkswagen gagage and listening to it idle there was an extra noise that he said is my fluwheel being somewhat loose and he said sometime the flywheel needs replaces it not just a matter of tighning some bolts and the tranny will need pulled to do it.
 
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Hi Ronnie.Vincent,
Sounds very much like you have a failing Dual Mass Flywheel, I would not wait too long before getting it replaced.
Regards HMC
 
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