2006 Golf RCD330 Retrofit problems...

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Hello, about a year ago I fitted a Pioneer SPH-DA250DAB radio to my GTI (all of the steering wheel controls worked as they should) however over the year I realised I wanted something that looked like it was meant to be there unlike an aftermarket unit so I ordered an RCD330 radio and patiently waited for it to arrive.

Once it arrived I installed it and it worked well apart from my steering wheel controls no longer worked.

Next I decided to change the Canbus module to a revision L one because I had a revision F module and I'd heard about the battery drain problems.

So after checking the old revision F modules Long coding I fitted the revision L module.

After an error with the Long coding due to the length of code being different I discovered I needed to used the Installation list instead. Now I've gotten to the point where I'm pretty sure I have ticked all of the boxes in the Installation list that need to be ticked.

However when I perform an Auto-Scan I keep getting a fault code "01317" for address 56 - Radio and my steering wheel controls proceed to not work like they did with the Aftermarket radio.

Code:
Thursday,02,September,2021,14:23:19:58439
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 21.3.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4543.4
Data version: 20210226 DS325.0
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VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W163698   License Plate: T40YLX
Mileage: 174980km-108727mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72 77

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W163698   Mileage: 174980km-108727miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine        Labels:. 06F-907-115-AXX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 J    HW: 1K0 907 115 F
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0030  
   Revision: --H14---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0F3618449
   Coding: 040300031C070160
   Shop #: WSC 00191 264 15243
   VCID: 2D070EA7511F7A13145-8078

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0110 0100

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 043 C    HW: 02E 927 770 AE
   Component: GSG DSG         070 1111  
   Revision: 04507000    Serial number: 00000602220876
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 1471BB43D275CBDB3BB-8040

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AA    HW: 1K0 907 379 AA
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102  
   Revision: 00H13001    
   Coding: 0004738
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 71BFD2D78DA75EF370D-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 044 BE
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 090 0808  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6B83C0BFAF8BB4234A1-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 E    HW: 3C0 937 049 E
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002  
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000005517454
   Coding: E50D8E2700041521641400641400000000097F0764
   Shop #: WSC 12345 785 00200
   VCID: 2B0300BF6F0B74230A1-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW350  013  0402  
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 12345  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 T  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RegenLichtSens 011  1110  
   Coding: 00207646
   Shop #: WSC 12345  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 R    HW: 1K0 909 605 R
   Component: 38 AIRBAG VW8   018 2200  
   Revision: 02018000    Serial number: 0038MD09ZR6.  
   Coding: 0013112
   Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
   VCID: 3B2330FF9F6BE4A39A1-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME0E5F1B6AX

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME1041663D6

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME0B22352FH

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME09541C5FT

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AG    HW: 1K0 953 549 AG
   Component: J0527           634 0070  
   Coding: 0013142
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 77ABECCFE3C300C3BE9-8022

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           002 0010

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K6 920 962 D
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 4312  
   Coding: 0001403
   Shop #: WSC 00011 067 57207
   VCID: 323D1DDB482125EB497-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H15 0180  
   Revision:   H15       Serial number: 1400K081080A67
   Coding: ED807F060006020001
   Shop #: WSC 06314 123 12345
   VCID: 303917D3462D17FB3F3-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K6 920 962 D
   Component: IMMO            VDD 4312  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 323D1DDB482125EB497-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2374  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 363521CBA44939CB65F-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V2.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 K
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.3   D06 1701  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 34311BC3B2352BDB5BB-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 AK
   Component:    KSG              0401  
   Coding: 18C802087F2D8505485FC69010CC
   Shop #: WSC 05946 002 104857
   VCID: 79AFEAF7D5D716B3C8D-802C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  005 0003

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 177 A
   Component: Innenraumueberw.005 0202

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2374  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 372B2CCFA343C0C37E9-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: -----------    HW: -----------
   Component: Radio         --- 5814  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 16000440040000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 6FBBD4AF97934803669-803A

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 164
                    Mileage: 174984 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:08:14


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2438  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 333318DFB73B2CE3421-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2438  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 34311BC3B2352BDB5BB-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 1K0-035-729-UNI.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 035 729 E
   Component: CIB PAH  HW 203 SW  0308  
   Coding: 0000234
   Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
   VCID: 2B0300BF6F0B74230A1-807E

1 Fault Found:
01530 - Radio Mute Switch 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:08, VBatt start/end: 11.8V/11.8V. VIgn 11.8V)-----

So my questions are...

Have I coded the revision L module correctly?

What could be causing the fault code for 56- Radio?

To get my steering wheel controls to work do I need to fit one of these MFSW adapters? (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203043034328?hash=item2f464ed4d8:g:7R0AAOSwD0dfBe66)

Thank you for your time and thoughts, Alex.
 
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what I know is that cluster (Yes, cluster) is reponsibile for radio control via MFSW
there was never confirguration with MFSW and low Line cluster

After market radio is just for P&P , and forget about any diagnostic
you can not Remove adr 56 from CAN GATEWAY
VW never made a car without radio, seems for me that radio is a minimum quipment
 
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what I know is that cluster (Yes, cluster) is reponsibile for radio control via MFSW
there was never confirguration with MFSW and low Line cluster

After market radio is just for P&P , and forget about any diagnostic
you can not Remove adr 56 from CAN GATEWAY
VW never made a car without radio, seems for me that radio is a minimum quipment
Not sure I completely understand...

So from what you've said, I understand that the RCD330 is an aftermarket radio therefore the fault code cannot be removed because of the radio being unable to communicate with the MFSW via the instrument cluster, correct?

What I don't understand is that you're saying I have lowline clocks? I was under the impression they were midline as they show me my Fuel economy, fuel range, trip, speed warning and ignition on time?

But thank you for clearing up the cause of the fault code and I am no longer worried about it.
 
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Not sure I completely understand...

So from what you've said, I understand that the RCD330 is an aftermarket radio therefore the fault code cannot be removed because of the radio being unable to communicate with the MFSW via the instrument cluster, correct?

What I don't understand is that you're saying I have lowline clocks? I was under the impression they were midline as they show me my Fuel economy, fuel range, trip, speed warning and ignition on time?

But thank you for clearing up the cause of the fault code and I am no longer worried about it.
middle or low line - both crap for me
middle is not operate via MFSW too
swap to Highline
 
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RCD330 is not an aftermarket radio at all, it's an original VWAG item that's not available in most of the world. It will work with all the other car systems via canbus...

I've had both a 330 and now a MIB2 unit from a 2020 NAR passat in my PQ-based car, and can still use the MFSW buttons with a midline/highline cluster; it just won't show information on the cluster itself.

I would say to get a much newer gateway from aliexpress to remove that part from the potential problem source. I have a 7N0 907 530 AR unit.


You definitively don't need a '56' radio in a car... I 'only' have a '5F' unit, no '56', and no issues.


This is a recent(ish) autoscan of my 2010 mk5 jetta sedan with mk6 electronics with the 'AR' gateway:

Code:
Tuesday,24,August,2021,20:50:59:50436
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64(VirtualBox)
VCDS Version 21.8.0.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4553.4
Data version: 20210731 DS330.0
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VIN: 3VWHJ7AJ9AM130127   License Plate:
Mileage: 182820km-113599mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 5F 62 72

VIN: 3VWHJ7AJ9AM130127   Mileage: 182820km-113599miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CCT)       Labels:. 06J-906-026-CCT.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 AM    HW: 1K0 907 115 AA
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0030
   Revision: AAH11---    Serial number:          
   Coding: 0403010A18070160
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 71BCDDA0ADA54AC35CD-8025
   VINID: 0E69D868745A2517410C00421C0EF0B2DF

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AH    HW: 1K0 907 379 AH
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H30 0107
   Revision: 00H30001
   Coding: 114B600C492500FA880C06E692200041340000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 78AAE084C2DF1B8B9B3-802D

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 907 336 AC    HW: 3C8 907 336 AC
   Component: Climatic      H14 0305
   Revision: 00009001
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00149
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatic A01005
   ROD: EV_ClimaBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 6E86C6DCB01B553B41F-803B

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 E    HW: 5K0 937 086 E
   Component: BCM PQ35 M    011 0029
   Revision: BJ011001
   Coding: 27210B3F902F3EE4004800814000978C0768008650008D205C8040000000
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 36362EBC884B2DFB49F-8063

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 F  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 22041  21  0512
   Coding: 009395

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AD    HW: 1K0 909 605 AD
   Component: 09 AIRBAG VW8R  036 8900
   Revision: 06036000    Serial number: 003EVM02THSH
   Coding: 0012345
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 6E86C6DCBC9B553B41F-803B

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME506530752

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME5115056D8

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME20544F412

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME206D637BG

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63727SME21096136V

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63827SME21095645-

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CD    HW: 1K0 953 549 CD
   Component: J0527           056 0111
   Coding: 0000731
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 76B6EEBCC4CB6DFB89F-8023

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS   H31 0037
   Coding: 00000130
   Shop #: WSC 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 1K8 920 861 B    HW: 1K8 920 861 B
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0308
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 070C00
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 00149
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
   VCID: 303A18A46AAF03CB133-8065

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AR    HW: 7N0 907 530 AM
   Component: J533  Gateway H55 1653
   Revision:   H55       Serial number: 1005201500F108
   Coding: 351002
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 12345
   VCID: 005A88649A0F534BA33-8055

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234
   Component: IMMO          H05 0308
   Serial number:          
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03005
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 6A8ECACC8CF3B91B1D7-803F

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 701 B    HW: 3C0 959 793
   Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0307
   Revision: 13101005    Serial number: 0000721322
   Coding: 0004F5
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU42BroseDriveSide A03004
   ROD: EV_DCU42BroseDriveSide.rod
   VCID: 2708F3F85F614473C29-8073

   Slave Driver:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AH    HW: 1K0 959 795 T  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J388__TSG-HL  006 1401
   Serial number: 00000004822845
   Coding: 000490

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 69     3001
   Revision: 00H17000
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 313C1DA06D250AC31CD-8065

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
   Part No SW: 3C0 959 702 B    HW: 3C0 959 792
   Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0307
   Revision: 15101005    Serial number: 0000718501
   Coding: 0004B4
   Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCU52BrosePasseSide A03004
   ROD: EV_DCU52BrosePasseSide_VW32.rod
   VCID: 280AF0C4527F4B0BCB3-807D

   Slave Passenger:
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AH    HW: 1K0 959 794 T  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
   Component: J389__TSG-HR  006 1401
   Serial number: 00000004810173
   Coding: 000490

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 5C0 035 200 F    HW: 5C0 035 200 F
   Component: MU-S-S-US     H61 0605
   Serial number: VWZAZ2W1463244
   Coding: 02140100BE00000001220001001828009F0100C40020010002
   Shop #: WSC 06050 062 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW32.rod
   VCID: 186AC004E21FFB8B7B3-804D

No fault code found.


End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:00, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.1V)-----------
 
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FYI this is a lowline mk5 cluster:

iu


This is a 'midline' mk5 cluster screen from my 2008 Rabbit with an RNS315 and working GTI MFSW:

(I dont think any NAR mk5 rabbits got the lowline.)

vUJNgnO.jpg


Here I upgraded to a Highline mk5 cluster, mk6 MFSW and the 330 radio:

(note that the 330 WILL NOT display any kind of information on the MFD, regardless of trim/options/coding!)

AmSqFJR.jpg


This is the '200F' MIB2 unit in my 2010 Jetta (same as the autoscan above), and this will display stuff in a highline cluster (might have to have a mk6/white one though...).

Q3JHQj1.jpg
 
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Steeringwheel issues is because of old lin signal.
In passat b6 eu version you have steeringwheel electronics that supports both lin signals. The lin 2.0?? Supports RCD330 and Discover Media PQ systems.
There are special converter boxes so 8 button steeringwheel also works with RCD330
On Aliexpress you can find those as steering wheel controle adaptor for rcd330
 
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hmm... that autoscan you post is not from picture you post
so what is a proper car to look ?

I have my own solution for those who use a low line , old gen cars, with latest gen radio, etc.
but this is require additionall module
 
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